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He obv had T9 spades. as played fold river 100% and take the rare bluffs. Bet turn bigger and do not fold to a jam.

So you wated to tell us, that u are a good looking guy- or did i miss the point of your post? :)

Given the fakt, that we just call in that spot, we do have a bluffcatcher, right? An even against a range with all the non nuts value hands, we still have our bluffcatcher, right? So when we just call the river we allways bluffcatch in some way wich is simmilar to a nuts- air betting range otr, since we cant get value from or or the nuts by raising, im with big fiszh here. But i cant even see straigt tired as shit. dunno why im even here right now :P

I guess he had J8o. Weird hand anyways. Im not calling trun sinse im not betting turn

Nope :). But ty and thx to BigFiszh as well. I stared to read MOP now. Bought it like months ago and all i see is rainbows. Dont know if that made sense, but it sounds cool. All this 5x+ -1(y)=7y+53x "nonsense" makes me sick. Never learned it in school but hey ill get it. For now i start with

< > = (p(win))*(total pot) - (cost of the action ) :P.

Im prety sure that there is a formula with x out there. So that i dont have to compare diffrent sizes with diffrent frequencies "by my self".  I saw that formula once, but i have no idea how to isolate x in those, that why i dont have it anymore :(. But thx anyways guess i could be wrong since i didnt found it on the internet either.

Sry. I was thinking about my question so for me it was clear. What i meant is this.
Lets assume that i have as a explotiv play in a vacuum a pretty good idea about villan.
I assume that he calls a half pot bet 70% of the time(otr), but folds to a pot bet 55%(otr) how can i come up with the best betsize, for the highest EV in a spot OTR when i have a prety good idea about how often villan (in%) calls a certain size OTR.