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I feel that even the example provided is incorrect. A losing or "rec" player has a fixed amount of money they can spend on poker, no matter the take a losing players balance will always approach 0. I don't see how either situation is better for the player, when in both situations he ends at 0 bankroll

Feb. 24, 2018 | 8:48 p.m.

Comment | Joe Monge commented on 2/5 live game

Nice discussion, and thanks for the replies.

Flop was def. meh, but as tight as SB has been playing and I was pretty sure CO was coming in i thought I could see a relatively cheap flop against a pretty visible SB range, and the loosest player on the table. I just dont see CO folding to a smallish 3b thus giving SB opportunity to 4b. Feels like this line burns money a lot of the time.

That being said, maybe it is just a fold.

I ended up potting flop, and GII vs. set of 2's, and held. Thinking back I think I gave CO too many A5 combos, which I wanted to punish early, as opposed to waiting for a "safe" turn and jam there.

Interested in the comment on jamming paired turns?

May 2, 2015 | 1:28 a.m.

Post | Joe Monge posted in PLO: 2/5 live game

Villain 1 CO ($7500)
Villain 2 (SB) ($2000)
Hero (BB) ($1200)

CO has been playing ~50% w/ 20% 3B
SB raising ~10% of limped pots
Hero -- probably seen as spot, never played in this game before ~20% VPIP

CO has been winning every pot >500$

Earlier hand saw CO w/ J726xxxx check/call two pot bets on Jh 6h 5 8h 6 board, and then Pot call the river vs. AhQhxx

8 handed game

Preflop
CO limp
SB raise to 20$
Hero (5c6c9h10h) call
CO call

Pot: (60$)

Flop:
2d3h4c

SB bets 60
Hero ?? (called)
CO raises pot (300$)
SB folds
Hero?? (Pot 600$)

Felt at the time that it was an obvious GII spot? Is the flat postflop a mistake?

thx

April 27, 2015 | 6:02 p.m.

Comment | Joe Monge commented on 1-2-5 live game

Cool, thanks a lot for the response. Never really done much detailed range breakdown so it helps a lot to see the numbers. 

Probably too ambitious to narrow the range so much, a peel def. looks > fold on further examination.

Nov. 9, 2013 | 4:30 a.m.

Comment | Joe Monge commented on 1-2-5 live game

Thx for the response.


Agreed that the KK77 is really weak, (I am fish in these games, but trying to improve in general). Are stab's at this sort of pot usually pot sized? in this hand i had ~1200$ he was 1800$ so a c/r puts me in terrible shape against a 4b shove, and if he calls I am really lost on a lot of turns.  (maybe this is why I should stand up when so deep :))


On the 2nd hand: What kind of hand do you put into a checking range if we are leading w/ such a strong hand? Or do you basically always donk after the pre action?

I was thinking KQJT, 89QJ, type hands, but thought it would be good to balance w/ big hands that dont really have bad turn cards. Just over thinking I am sure.

Nov. 8, 2013 | 9:28 p.m.

Post | Joe Monge posted in PLO: 1-2-5 live game

Table is 9 handed: 

Villain ($1800) is extremely aggressive and been raising 4x basically every pot.  Been playing at the table for ~3 hours and I have seen him 4 bet hands as marginal as TT72 single suited. I am sitting on 1400$ and waiting for the perfect time to pick him off.

On the previous swing around the table I was in the SB w/ KK77ds he was in UTG+1 and I 3 bet his 20 to 80.  Flop came 5d7d8c (I had hearts and spades) I checked to him and he led pot.  I made a pretty weak fold here and showed the 7's, with his aggression I figured I was doing pretty bad against a GII range, and a lot of turns I am completely lost.  

Hand in question I am SB again w/ AcAhQdTc

Villain raises to 20 from UTG +1, two callers and I raise to 105.  Villain calls and 2 folds.

Flop: (AdKc7c)

Hero (checks)

Villain (checks)

Obviously I flop the world here, looking back I think this check is a pretty big mistake on my part, as any club draw will probably come along looking to crack the A's, also think a bet is more standard from an AAxx hand which would in turn give villain a lot of good "perceived" bluff cards on the turn, that scare a standard AAxx hand.  However, I do have a pretty wide 3 bet range pre, and really not sure if I should put the very top into a donk range.

Turn: ( Jh)

Hero?


Thanks for any help

Nov. 8, 2013 | 7:20 p.m.

ha, nono you misunderstand.  I appreciate the service and always tip.  Its more like that everyone always tips in chips, and pays for drinks w/ chips (out of their stack).  It ends up being alot of money by the end of the night, that does not go to players, but instead to employees.  Im all for tipping, just wish everyone did it w/ cash not chips that are in play.

May 22, 2013 | 1:44 a.m.

Post | Joe Monge posted in NLHE: Biggest rake at Live poker

Has got to be the beer girls accepting chips? and tipping dealer w/ chips, and getting food w/ chips?  The first one is by far the worst, as many of the people who continually drink are the ones we can get money from.  They end up drinking 3-4 beers/hour (total at the table) which takes an extra 20-30 bucks off of the table every hour.  Would love to see a dealer tip system that did not involve chips, and everyone have to pay cash to the beverage lady.j

May 21, 2013 | 9:07 p.m.

Post | Joe Monge posted in PLO: 1-2-5 live plo

1-2-5 live game

Villain 1 UTG+1 (800$)

Villain 2 HJ (1000$)

Hero Button (1050$)

Dealt to Hero (AdKdJcTc)

Villain 1 raises to 15

Villain 2 calls 15

Hero raises to 60

Villain 1 call

Villain 2 fold

Villain 1 has been blind potting from UTG all night, and calling any 3 bet around 60% of time.  Wanted to get him iso'd pre, with a weaker range from Villain 2.

Flop (AhKcTd) Pot (150)

Villain bets 60     Hero calls

Is this standard call w/ SPR so high? 

Turn 9c (270)

Villain checks    Hero checks

(In retrospect this seems like a mistake, just not sure what is calling here that I am doing very well against, or if we can ever make Villain fold better)

River 4d (270)

Villain bets 220Hero???

I am trying to learn plo, and I know that this is a very basic, probably easy spot.  I am working on getting better, and this is one hand that the table really trolled me on misplaying so trying to get an idea of how to improve.

Thanks for any help

May 11, 2013 | 9:35 p.m.

I called and villain had QQxx, seems like a typical bb story, but thinking, what could someone bet full pot on river without the QQ? Unless I am on exactly AA, nothing else can call such a big bet.

April 11, 2013 | 3:27 a.m.

Sorry, Full pot. Effectively all in, SPR ~1.3

April 10, 2013 | 1:41 p.m.

Ok, checked to villain and he bets all-in. Is this ever a bluff?? Or even aq for value??

April 10, 2013 | 12:19 p.m.

The game plays pretty loose, with alot of preflop limpers. BN is fishy player, probably something like 40/15 over the 4 hours I have sat here. UTG players and button are playing pretty snug, not really out of line.

Hero is HJ w/ AsAdTsJc

UTG (580$) limps
UTG+1(240$)limps
Hero (500$) raises to 30$
BN (Villain) (700$) calls
BB + 2 UTG both call

Pot(150$)
Flop QcQh8c
Checks to Hero, opt to check. In a 5 way multi-way pot I just dont see the benefit to betting here. Button Checks

Turn
4d
Checks to Hero, opt to check again. (I think this is more a bet for value, but figured button who was playing pretty aggressive would stab here a high % of time, and I could react by what the other 3 players do. Button bets 80$ folds back to hero. Now I have a decision, felt like button would raise a Q on flop, but due to other players folding maybe we have to weight his hand more towards having a Q.)
Hero calls.

River (310$)
Ah
Hero?

I am pretty sure my hand looks alot like AAxx, so bad job by me.

April 9, 2013 | 10:26 p.m.

As for pre, it is spew in regular game I agree, however I am only player who has 3b pre and utg/hj have been limp folding to basically any aggression. If I would have known 5 callers would have for sure folded pre.

As played what does pot bet do as opposed to 80? Folds out hands I have great equity against and nearly commits me on this board, or loses me an extra 70. Seems like I compound the pre raise if I pot/get it in here? But I could have this all wrong, just the logic I used

Feb. 15, 2013 | 11:48 p.m.

6 handed
SB (350$)
BB(750$)
UTG(600$)
HJ(600$)
CO(1700$)
Button (Hero) 500$

Limps around to me on the button with 2445 DS, I open to 25$ and everyone on table calls.
pot(150$)Flop 4c6sQh
Checks around hero bets 80$.
SB fold BB raises to 210$ folds back to hero.


BB tight reg, I have been opening 80% of buttons, 3 betting 50% of buttons. Have not seen villain 3bet pre. 4 hours into the table. My CB% is 75%, I think he has been observant and noticed how many pots I have been taking down otf after preflop aggression.
Is B/F too passive/exploitable in this spot?

My thinking is that I block alot of combo draws he could have, and call preflop with. Also I feel like a potsized bet is not necessary to make me fold my missed cb's.

Feb. 15, 2013 | 6:38 p.m.

Now that i think about it, I think it fits in w/ a math/equity type play. He knows that our straight draws are more heavily weighted towards gutter balls that need a 9 to complete, gives enough equity to his hand that he can continue calling down turn and river as well.

Jan. 29, 2013 | 3:16 a.m.

Around the 14 minute mark we have the K flush, and you say he calls down w/ 9flush and 99. W/ the 99 in his hand, not sure what we can be bet turn bet river w/? I guess turning a gutter J into a bluff? Feels like we have an opp. who is calling down too light in these marginal situations, nice for value later? Or I could personally play too polarized on these boards, and start including more air/overpairs into a btbr range here.

Jan. 29, 2013 | 2:49 a.m.

Comment | Joe Monge commented on 10/20: Superweird KK
Here are we really thinking about b/f against IP player?? My question here would be, do the other reg's see you as a good player? If you were on the list for 6 hours, i assume they know you are reg and why you are joining such a table. In this case, I wouldnt mind an overbet AI on the flop. Flop rarely connects w/ fish, we know that and other reg's also know this. Why overbet such a strong hand, when its almost guaranteed to price out the only fish? Can see us picking up a call from TT-77 and 6x from the button or 1st position. Seems like there are alot more of these hands in both of their ranges than anything that dominates us on that flop. So some % of time we pick up the 800+ in the pot, and dont let ourselves get exploited by a reg, some % of the time we get in w/ dominating postiion against a reg, for reasons mentioned above, and some smallish % of the time we are dominated/dead. We can wait for a better spot to exploit fish, lets take regs money this time?!? :)

Jan. 24, 2013 | 4:12 a.m.

Seems like a fold in this spot... Hands that can feel comfortable bluffing in this spot TTJ9, 99TJ, JJ9T. 89TJ.. anything else??? Dont see you giving away the strength of your hand to warrant a bluff from the first two. So like Phil says pray its one of the last two? With any under full he cant really put you on anything but a straight (which would make it very hard for you to bet, so why check for value?) Seems like only check for value hands have you beat (w/ straight blockers as well), and as it has been said w/o a queen in his hand its neary impossible to bluff here, as I would probably have to call w/ Q9xx and better. Just off hand remarks and have never done full statistical breakdowns, hopefully with the site can learn to do this as well.

Dec. 19, 2012 | 3:44 a.m.

This one may get deleted, but trying to learn..

I feel like trip type hands for IP that also contain blockers to the wrap (w/ overs to the 9 AQJx, KQJx) play pretty well for value in this spot. If we smooth call and river completes wrap/our boat, then oop can basically only c/c, b/f or c/f. On a garbage river, impossible for oop to bluff (as you said oop can really only bluff turn here). If we raise these connected Q hands it gives a chance to a) oop a bluff opportunity b) win an extra bet from wraps, c) if oop shows up w/ Q9, for the 7k raise i think we still show a profit calling here. Feels like the hand just plays better if we raise for value. Seems like this would allow us to put most QTxx in our range, as we have nut blocker and equity against alot of wrap hands. Wraps/misses basically need to start betting out on river for value to keep us from also raising any Qxxx which in turn should allow for us to also start raising even weaker (JJxx TTxx blocker type hands) on the turn for value, as well as put a few bluffs/nuts into our range.

Dec. 11, 2012 | 5:21 a.m.

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