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OlyBrah

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Thanks for the reply Tom. :)

Honestly I don't think I could be confident with 25 BI's. One of my biggest issues (which I spoke about below) is that I have my spew moments, and then a mental game leak in which I'll chase losses. If I use a 25BI rule there's a good chance I might not stick to it, and won't move down when I hit 20BI's.

As I'm typing this the opening days to this month have been kind to me.

That's given me enough of a roll to sit down at the plo10 tables and grind there. I'm only sitting at $490 so far, so if I'm able to grind 50BI at plo10 I'd have the required bankroll to go for a plo25 shot.

With that said, I'm pretty close to the 25BI rule you spoke about for plo25, and I'd love to be able to move up there quicker. I'm tempted to use a 30BI rule at minimum though.

I'll keep grinding and make my decision later.
Thanks for the reply, again. :)

July 5, 2015 | 1:52 a.m.

haha, I was asking for advice because one of my biggest leaks is the mental game. Numerous times I've spewed away 5 BI's, and then the rest of the day is trying to grind those 5 BI's back.

It's a really poor habit that's always hindered my progress in building up a bankroll. Doesn't help that PLO is a more swingy game. ;)

It's pretty easy sitting at the microstakes and playing your equity, allowing others to make mistakes, and winning. But mental game? That's something I need to get a hold of.

Thanks for the response. :)

July 5, 2015 | 1:46 a.m.

I'm not nitty at all. I play anywhere from 24 VPIP to 35 VPIP depending on the situations. Lately I've been at 30ish for this month, profiting quite largely at 30bb/100.

July 4, 2015 | 5:10 a.m.

I don't mind if normal tables break often. I only play 4 - 6 at a time depending on how I feel so it's not difficult to get on that many tables.

If I don't have normal tables I can sit on I can always resort to Zoom. It just seems like Zoom is too unpredictable for me and I'm unable to make reads which makes for +EV decisions.

June 25, 2015 | 5:18 a.m.

Thanks for the response man. :)
I worry too much about BRM in all games. NLHE I used a 30BI rule, PLO I use a 40BI rule.

I'm tempted to use a more aggressive BRM, but the thought of going bust due to tilt (a problem I do suffer) is too worrisome, unfortunately.

June 25, 2015 | 5:17 a.m.

My HUD doesn't work since the only tracking software licenses I have for Omaha are for HEM1. It's not supported any more, so no updates to help put it in line with Pokerstars.

It does work, but it shows the stats for the wrong players at the time.

June 25, 2015 | 5:09 a.m.

Hey guys. :)

I began playing PLO in the last month after looking for a change. I struggled to enjoy NLHE so figured I'd find some interest in a game I've touched a little bit but not too much, so figured I'd check PLO out for a bit.

After this month I've played about 18k hands, running a $90 deposit up to $260, moving myself from PLO2 to PLO5.
Problems is I've encountered a bit of variance which has curbed my confidence, and made me realise that my game isn't that sharp. Hence why I came to RIO and purchased an essential membership.

The videos I've been watching have been great, and have made me realise some flaws in my game.

Couple of questions though.

What's the optimal strategy for moving up in the microstakes? With the rake trap should we be trying to play more cheaply preflop in spots where it might be +EV to 3bet in higher stakes?

Should I be avoiding zoom in total? My HUD doesn't work for zoom which might be a good reason for me to avoid it, but would I be better trying to learn the game by learning my opponents rather than playing a game style in which I'm just playing my hands to a standard?

What other advice do you guys have for moving up in the microstakes?

Thanks guys!

June 24, 2015 | 12:34 p.m.

That doesn't seem loose-passive to me. 30/10 might be, but the players you described just sound like passive-regfish.

With that said, because they're passive it means you can probably get away with opening hands that you might have issue with against players that 3bet, or play back aggressively postflop. I play 10nl at the moment, so put up with players that are much more loose-passive than this.

UTG range I'd remain the same. I'd probably remove lower PP's (22 - 55), and the worse of the suited connectors (98s, if you include it). If you open a lot of suited Ax hands UTG, I'd remove the worst of them too. What you could start doing is opening more KTs UTG, QTs as well. Hands that have a lot more top pair value.


Opening sizes I've been experimenting with lately. For me lately I've been doing 2.5x as a standard. Means that I lose .5bb less every time I X/F, and to make up for the .5bb I only need to bet slightly larger postflop. 

Jan. 14, 2014 | 5:25 a.m.

SB: $33.46
BB: $39.19
UTG: $25.35
HJ: $25
CO: $25.25 (Hero)
BN: $23.85
BTN is a 12 tabling regular. No real reads on him although he might be bad since he's sitting on a <100bb stack.
SB is a fish over a small sample.

Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A J
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.64, BN calls $0.64, SB calls $0.54, BB folds
Flop ($2.17) 9 8 6 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.42, BN calls $1.42, SB calls $1.42
Turn ($6.43) 9 8 6 2 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.92, BN calls $3.92, SB folds
River ($14.27) 9 8 6 2 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $19.27, and is all in
The only spot I'm interested in is on the river.

The board pairing is good for our range since it counterfeits any two pairs like 98, 86 if villain includes that into his flatting range. We can presume sets should have raised turn (if not on the flop), which seems to be the only sort of hand that can call a river shove.

What's everyone's thoughts on this hand? Is Hero's play okay, or can we expect to be looked up a lot of the time? Any other thoughts you guys might have?

Cheers.

Jan. 10, 2014 | 2:38 p.m.

I really don't see why villain should be X/R'ing sets or something here. There's really not much of a raising range on such a board texture, although I could see some people doing it as a level since the general line on these boards are X/C, with a X/R on the turn.


But, this player does look weaker, especially buying in for less than 100bb's. We don't know anything about them either, so it's not the nicest of spots. For all we know though, this villain could be aggressive enough to X/R TT on this flop since recreational players will often be thinking "ZOMG OVERPAIR" rather than thinking about the range hero will continue with, and the relative strength of a small overpair compared to that range.

It's one of those spots where I honestly think you could swing either way. I think you could flat-out fold the flop, or call down on any decent run-out (the 9 isn't too scary, only improve 97s and 99). Pretty tough spot since we're readless, so I'd make my decision based on my gambling mood for the day. I'm not feeling THAT confident when I call three streets though. Definitely one of those spots where reads would help. For all we know, Villain could be buying in with the rest of his roll and trying to gambool it up, so yeah.


I don't like the turn fold after the flop call though, to be honest. 

Jan. 9, 2014 | 2:02 a.m.

I kind of feel as though someone playing 48/42 is going to be aggressive enough to X/R worse here on this flop.


With that said, I think the decision has to be made on the flop. If you're calling flop, I don't see you should be folding on a turn that only helps A5. If you've got reads that he only X/R's two pairs or sets/trips, this is definitely a fold, but that's usually the play I'd expect from someone playing 48/4 or something and not from someone aggressive like Villain in this case.

You'd be amazed how frequently aggro-donks overvalue TP type hands, so I think stationing here and hoping he has a misplayed AT/AJ type hand, and adjusting for future reference if he shows two pair or something.

Jan. 8, 2014 | 9:02 a.m.

Even if we remove the semi-bluff hands, and give him a range of KQ and JJ/TT, we're still 43% to win the hand equity wise. Toothpaste, you said in your other comment we needed 40% to call, right? But there's still more that someone could be spaz-shoving for value than just KQ. If he never expects us to have AA here, and if he think we can have AQhh/AKhh (entirely possible since we have one of those cards), he might be trying to get us to call with his lower sets. If we add some hands which he might 3bet preflop, that we block, like AJ/AT, our equity goes up to 55%.


It's a gross spot, yeah, but at a limit where people can do some crazy things and overvalue lesser hands, I don't see how this could be a fold.

Do you need the money for the following week, OP? If say, you have rent or bills, or food that needs to be purchased, then I can see how folding here and taking the lesser variance option might be alright. If the loss wouldn't matter too much for you, and you're more concerned about long-term results, I think calling is best here given that villains shoving range isn't just going to be KQ, and against a range that includes lower sets and some TP hands, we're going to be showing profit in the long run. As I said previously, our hand is disguised so he's never going to expect us to have a hand like top set here, so there's definitely worse he can jam with for value.

If we could make decisions against individual hands then poker would be a pretty easy game, but unfortunately we play against ranges. Sometimes we run into the top of someone else's range in a spot where we can often expect to crush their range, and that's just something we have to put up with.


I'm still calling.


Jan. 8, 2014 | 8:55 a.m.

We're not really considering folding, are we?


It's a pretty ugly spot, considering we have the Ah which would block plenty of the Axhh flush draws he could have had.

With that said though, there's really only a few combinations of hands that have us crushed, like KQ. I'd hate to call and see KQhh/KQss, but there's just few combinations of them compared to the hands he might have that we dominate ourselves. 

Do you think he's a thinking player though? Because if so, our hand is extremely underrepresented, and he may be X/J'ing thinking he has fold equity against some of the hands we might play like this. I doubt you'd ever call with AQ here, even AQhh would be hard to call this deep, so there's the chance that he thinks you'd have that in your range, and thus look to put you to a decision so you're likely to fold it this deep. I'm guessing you'd 3bet AK vs. a UTG open, yeah? Because if so, he'd expect that to be eliminated from our range also.

You have to also consider the idea that, if he expects you to have hands like AQ here that might fold, he's rarely going to be jamming for value, and instead would look to raise the turn to an amount that won't have you so scared of your hand.



Against the range I gave him that includes straights, two pair, worse sets, and some semi-bluff hands (QJhh, T9ss), we've still got 66% equity. Maybe my range is too loose, but removing the semi-bluff hands (QJhh, T9ss) still has us sitting on 66% equity, so I think you'd be crazy to ever consider folding here.

If he turns up with KQ, NH sir, well played, and continue on grinding. 




Jan. 7, 2014 | 5:37 a.m.

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