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Seed2Shade

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Hey everyone. I've been playing at Ignition on the side from my career over the last year. Started at 100NL winning at a unsustainable 15bb/100 over 20K hands. Then played mostly 200NL winning at 5bb/100 over 42K hands (small sample size I know). Recently been transitioning to 200NL Zone (like Zoom on PS). Lost -2bb/100 but only 14K hands. I do believe from what I have seen that these games are beatable. There are clearly some crushers (which are much better than me), but there is enough fish to go around. Definitely weaker than PS based on RIO videos I've watched.

Thinking about moving to AC. Ignitions software sucks (freezes, buggy) and something smells funny with them. There are swings (plural) were I get Aces like 12 times in 100 hands (net profit from these are like neutral) or like get AKs on button 4 times in a row all same suite or just periods (like weeks) where I am hitting sets, flushes, etc constantly but losing to cooler situations or vice versa (bigger pots = bigger rake = more fun for recreational, could be the logic). I know it sounds a lot like selective memory or just good old variance. I'm not just talking about swings per say, just like more glitchy oddball improbable things like 4 tabling and getting the same exact hand to the suite on 3 tables at same time. Odd things like that. Idk, just speculation but just curious if anyone else has experienced this?

Hows the competition on AC vs Ignition or just in general? Hows the bots, cheating, etc?

July 9, 2020 | 2:29 a.m.

Hey Peter Clarke . Your one of my favorite RIO instructures, always look forward to your stuff. At 23.20 you mention how pool constructs more of a linear 3bet BB vs BTN then game theory would imply. I get we would want some frequency of K6s, J7s type hands but wouldn't we want a more linear range in that spot since 1) BTN will be calling often and 2) since BTN has a much wider RFI range vs CO+, he/she can't apply as much pressure/barrel so our A5o and such would play better as a call since higher equity realization.

Thanks. Also attached my BBvsBTN 3bet range:

June 25, 2020 | 10:59 p.m.

Thanks BigFiszh that was helpful

June 9, 2020 | 12:28 a.m.

Im curious as a generality, why does equilibrium strategy typically prefer 2 street game vs. 1 when SPR is =<1 on turn? It seems to mostly lean towards this strategy, but it always feels more natural to shove/fold (which is why I love studying with solvers since they reveal odd, but correct things).

June 8, 2020 | 12:31 p.m.

Hand History | Seed2Shade posted in NLHE: Fire second and final bullet?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) MP: $173.61
UTG+1: $308.60
MP+1: $307.69
MP+2: $85.01
CO: $444.09 (Hero)
BN: $285.34
SB: $212.76
BB: $160.99
UTG: $66.32
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with A K
UTG raises to $6.00, MP calls $6.00, 2 folds, MP+2 calls $6.00, Hero raises to $30.00, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $24.00, MP+2 folds
Flop ($75.00) 7 T 7
MP checks, Hero bets $35.00, MP calls $35.00
Turn ($145.00) 7 T 7 Q
MP checks

June 5, 2020 | 2:44 a.m.

Good points, but I will say the pool I play in its safe to assume no one is really good at exploiting anything. I mean you definitely come across some good players sometimes, but by default I assume most players are not very aware.

May 6, 2020 | 1:39 p.m.

Yes! I play on anonymous 9max . Play is generally bad. Lots of passive calling preflop.

May 6, 2020 | 1:36 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (8 Players) UTG: $184.76
MP: $262.66
UTG+1: $197.00
MP+1: $210.75 (Hero)
CO: $219.55
BN: $219.82
SB: $186.39
BB: $60.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is MP+1 with K K
3 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, CO folds, BN calls $5.00, SB folds, BB calls $3.00
Flop ($16.00) Q 9 5
BB checks, Hero bets $10.00, BN raises to $30.00, BB folds, Hero calls $20.00
Turn ($76.00) Q 9 5 3
Hero checks, BN bets $72.20

May 6, 2020 | 12:36 a.m.

twinskat. Did you adjust UTG cbetting range and BB calling range from equilibrium on flop to reflect 3way dynamic vs. HU?

April 13, 2020 | 2:53 p.m.

Seems fine on the suited side but agree with ryan we need to be folding more of that offsuite stuff.

April 12, 2020 | 1:34 p.m.

I don't think we should ever be folding 40% royal flush preflop from any position. I would also not be folding AQo, J9s, and A5s.

April 12, 2020 | 1:33 p.m.

Thanks for running that in CREV BigFiszh

April 11, 2020 | 2:06 p.m.

Yea and in reality if I could stick this in a multiway solver I'm sure were debating one of those hands where solver is almost completely indifferent to raising or calling.

April 10, 2020 | 12:04 p.m.

I hear what your saying, but if villians game plan is to bet/fold top pair and given we have a ton of value combos in our range shouldn't 8s9s play better as a x/r? As you mentioned 89 no spade and 79 and as BigFiszh said JTs as good bluffs, which agree and understand but we could realistically have 30-40 combos of two pair+.

April 9, 2020 | 11:08 p.m.

I'm not by any means fluent in correct OP calling ranges in 3-way pots, but given we share MDF with BTN how many of these little to no value hands would we really arrive with on the turn? Should we even be floating a hand like JhTh on flop OP facing 2/3 cbet?

Also, T9s is a little more than no value IMO :)

April 9, 2020 | 5:04 p.m.

Thats fair, but given Ill have many different value hands (T9, 2 pairs, sets) that I would be taking a x/r line with on turn what type of bluffs would I have? I guess what I getting at is would I be to close to 100% value on turn if I x/c this type of hand allowing V to exploitatively fold things like AK, AQ vs my raise.

April 9, 2020 | 2:48 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) MP+2: $197.00
CO: $539.22
BN: $193.00
SB: $56.00
BB: $229.53 (Hero)
UTG: $625.25
UTG+1: $229.55
MP: $53.32
MP+1: $157.42
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with 9 8
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $6.00, 4 folds, BN calls $6.00, SB folds, Hero calls $4.00
Flop ($19.00) A 8 7
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $12.00, BN folds, Hero calls $12.00
Turn ($43.00) A 8 7 6
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $26.00

April 9, 2020 | 1:35 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) MP: $77.20
MP+1: $193.35
MP+2: $174.15
CO: $200.00
BN: $211.05 (Hero)
SB: $192.00
BB: $175.00
UTG: $197.00
UTG+1: $279.28
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with A K
4 folds, MP+2 calls $2.00, CO checks, Hero raises to $9.00, SB calls $8.00, BB folds, MP+2 calls $7.00, CO folds
Flop ($31.00) A 4 2
SB checks, MP+2 bets $8.00, Hero calls $8.00, SB calls $8.00
Turn ($55.00) A 4 2 7
SB checks, MP+2 bets $26.13, Hero raises to $60.00, SB folds, MP+2 raises to $157.15 and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot MP+2 wins $171.00
Rake is $4.00

March 25, 2020 | 4:35 p.m.

It is ~3 to 1. I have 55bb left when pot is 158bb. He had more then me.

March 16, 2020 | 11:14 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (8 Players) UTG: $57.98
MP: $270.68
UTG+1: $326.20
MP+1: $196.67
CO: $199.00 (Hero)
BN: $54.45
SB: $193.55
BB: $311.52
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with J J
2 folds, UTG+1 raises to $6.00, MP+1 calls $6.00, Hero raises to $24.00, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $18.00, MP+1 calls $18.00
Flop ($75.00) T 3 2
UTG+1 checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets $25.00, UTG+1 calls $25.00, MP+1 folds
Turn ($125.00) T 3 2 4
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks
River ($125.00) T 3 2 4 2
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40.00, UTG+1 raises to $241.00

March 14, 2020 | 2:25 p.m.

This was my thought at first but I let results question my thinking as I bet PSB, V tanked and called with red A9o.

Would you have two sizings on this river? Like smaller sizing for two pairs and weaker bluffs and larger sizing for 8x and stronger bluffs? Or merge it into one sizing?

Feb. 22, 2020 | 4:19 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) MP+2: $201.70
CO: $200.00
BN: $200.00
SB: $180.00
BB: $376.04 (Hero)
UTG: $223.76
UTG+1: $232.40
MP: $403.76
MP+1: $309.86
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q 6
6 folds, BN raises to $5.00, SB calls $4.00, Hero calls $3.00
Flop ($15.00) 2 7 T
SB checks, Hero checks, BN checks
Turn ($15.00) 2 7 T 9
SB checks, Hero bets $12.00, BN calls $12.00, SB folds
River ($39.00) 2 7 T 9 J
Hero

Feb. 22, 2020 | 4:08 a.m.

Feb. 19, 2020 | 11:59 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) SB: $196.00
BB: $204.51
UTG: $157.64
UTG+1: $280.50
MP: $456.80 (Hero)
MP+1: $55.02
MP+2: $244.03
CO: $109.47
BN: $69.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is MP with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, MP+1 folds, MP+2 calls $5.00, CO calls $5.00, BN folds, SB calls $4.00, BB folds
Flop ($22.00) 5 J 8
SB checks, Hero checks, MP+2 bets $8.00, CO folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $25.00, MP+2 calls $17.00
Turn ($72.00) 5 J 8 3
Hero bets $50.00, MP+2 raises to $214.03 and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot MP+2 wins $168.00
Rake is $4.00

Feb. 19, 2020 | 2:58 a.m.

Hand History | Seed2Shade posted in NLHE: Firing barrels 150bb effective.
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (8 Players) UTG: $203.68
MP: $78.62
UTG+1: $307.55
MP+1: $353.28
CO: $408.63 (Hero)
BN: $202.00
SB: $198.00
BB: $200.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with J A
UTG calls $2.00, MP folds, UTG+1 raises to $6.00, MP+1 folds, Hero raises to $20.00, 3 folds, UTG calls $18.00, UTG+1 calls $14.00
Flop ($63.00) 9 5 6
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $25.00, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $25.00
Turn ($113.00) 9 5 6 3
UTG+1 checks

Jan. 24, 2020 | 11:37 p.m.

Do you think a lead by me here instead of checking would be a more optimal play? Like 1/4 or so sizing.

Jan. 22, 2020 | 3:07 a.m.

I thought about floating too, just was unsure at the time on how to proceed OP in low SPR pot. Like say turns black J. Should we lead, x/f, x/r (depending on sizing), etc? If x/x, are we jamming river or taking showdown?

Jan. 20, 2020 | 8:04 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (9 Players) BN: $178.30
SB: $198.00
BB: $60.00
UTG: $327.37
UTG+1: $325.23 (Hero)
MP: $222.60
MP+1: $60.00
MP+2: $72.88
CO: $200.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is UTG+1 with Q A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $5.00, 2 folds, MP+2 calls $5.00, CO calls $5.00, BN folds, SB raises to $24.00, BB folds, Hero calls $19.00, MP+2 folds, CO calls $19.00
Flop ($79.00) T 3 4
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $25.53, SB folds

Jan. 20, 2020 | 4:12 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (7 Players) MP: $200.00
UTG+1: $288.12
CO: $220.74
BN: $372.11 (Hero)
SB: $198.00
BB: $214.00
UTG: $199.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with Q Q
2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.00, CO raises to $9.00, Hero raises to $27.00, SB folds, BB calls $25.00, UTG+1 folds, CO folds
Flop ($66.00) J 2 6
BB checks, Hero bets $22.00, BB calls $22.00
Turn ($110.00) J 2 6 2
BB checks, Hero bets $53.00, BB calls $53.00
River ($216.00) J 2 6 2 7
BB bets $112.00 and is all in

Jan. 19, 2020 | 3 a.m.

Thanks Jeff. I realized the flop dynamic after running in Pio...hitting myself on my head. Makes sense in hindsight. I played this hand so bad I literally had nightmares last night haha.

Dec. 28, 2019 | 1:37 p.m.

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