bluebull15

Agree on raising the flop. Thanks.

I played really badly Sunday through Thursday.
- Was 4 tabling cash tables
- Often had tournaments up
- My PC was lagging and leaving me short of time - finally figured out it was time for a HEM DB refresh - my pc seems to be able to handle about 50k hands in HEM database - anymore and it gets laggy.

I went back to 3 tables yesterday and today and have had a nice upswing. Clearly the right mindset makes a massive difference to play and therefor results. Given my challenge was to play 25k hands of tilt free poker at 16NL I have to concede failure as for long periods I was definitely auto piloting and in some way or another tilting (making poor decisions).

So despite being profitable I am not quite rolled for a stab at 25NL so I am going to keep playing in the background to get to that point and will come back to document the first stab at 25nl if and when I get there.

Reminder today that playing in autopilot / multitasking can leak money really quickly. I am very confident that when I am fully focused I can beat the micro zoom games but my B game involves getting very sticky and trying to find bluffs where there aren't any and you can leak money so quickly when you do that.

Anyway - overall I guess its still not a terrible result to date. Will likely take a day off poker tomorrow - feeling a bit jaded after a lot of hands this weekend. The downswing in the graph below was not due to variance - just donating money to good hands.

Try to finish this batch of 25k hands by the weekend and hopefully be ready for some 25NL soon - or maybe some micro millions. TBD.

If it was a normal bet I am raising the turn almost always. The overbet gave me pause but even here I thought about it for a long time because its not the end of the world to get it in vs 45. Interested in more views - it feels too tight but at the same time I just don't see many villains at this level happy to bluff away 150bb in a single raised pot (even blind vs blind this seems unlikely). The most obvious drawss got there so the only value hands I am beating are 33 and 22.

In my experience overbets are very rarely bluffs in these limits.

Fact

really easy fold

Another fact.

I also level myself into calling these spots way to often. But at these stakes eliminating bluff catching almost entirely is probably the best way to get the graph moving upwards.The population as a whole is just hardly ever bluffing here. To be fair even 70% bet on the turn here is probably indicative of a hand that has us beat.

Those just look like stats that are over a very small sample so probably irrelevant. .

Not the biggest 3 bet - you have a nice hand in position - I think this is a call pre far more often then a 4 bet.

Once we 4 bet and get that flop I guess we want / have to try take this down with the equity we have. You might be right that slightly smaller on the flop would give us slightly more fold equity on the turn but I am not sure it matters a ton.

I'll just comment on the fact that I think KJ suited for a reasonably sized 3 bet closing the action multi way is just fine to call. As long as you don't get spewy!

Villain have nitty stats? I can only really get behind this line if so. Flopping a set against a big 3bet from a nit is often going to win stacks so worth looking at the flop. Uncomfortable on a low flop though obviously and sometimes you will fold the best hand if he follows through with AK. Also - a lot of really nitty players will fail to realize that you might not have that many aces here by the river and might put you squarely on JJ anyway so will fold qq/kk often enough. In a vacuum I don't think anything about the line is optimal against a standard / decent reg but against a really tight player I can see it being just fine.

If this is a reg - Im inclined to call on the river and make a note about the 3 bet size / hand. Also - most regs are going to be hard pressed to find a value hand for your line. Are you really checking Ax, AJ or JJ 3 times here?

These are tricky spots.

• Its probably not a leak to fold pre here? Anyone disagree?

• I think its ok to check behind here. We not getting better hands to fold and we not getting value and betting to protect in a spot where villain is always somewhat likely to "float" seems unnecessary - do we not do better stabbing at turns where we could take it down or force a relatively cheap showdown? I'm just not sure we getting a lot of folds on the flop after villain has 3 bet.

• Feels like the turn does more for his range than ours given he probably has a lot of broadway combos. I'm not sure I want to make the pot any bigger right now.

Good luck - there is a series Phil made a couple of years back where he reviewed play from a 10nl member. There are 4 parts - I have been watching them recently and I would recommend as mandatory watching for anyone trying to win at the micros.

Well - 8300 hands in and I haven't really achieved the goal of playing 25000 tilt free hands. I haven't really tilted hard at all but I have had a couple of sessions where I have made some big mistakes getting sucked into 4 bet pots when I shouldn't be as well as getting a bit too sticky on rivers at other times. So I guess have run ok to be up around 6 buy-ins.

Next set of hands will be looking to shut down those two leaks specifically.

The hope was to use this 25000 hands to get the bankroll up to where I could have some stabs at 25nl but I am thinking about playing the $55 turbo main event tomorrow and then maybe a bunch of micro millions events as its literally years since I have had the time to play many tournaments and it might be fun. Will still be finishing this set of 25k hands over the next 3 or 4 days though.

Messy looking graph:

I know at micro's cold 4 betting is going to be a generally very strong range and there are times when I would be hating my KK but given the positions here I think you will see QQ/AK and the odd random bluff often enough to just get it in preflop. You will definitely see AA quite often but I think you will see other hands enough for it to be profitable.

As played I am just closing my eyes and calling with KK. If you flat calling pre I think it has to be a play that you make only a small percentage of the time to induce or let villain follow through with his bluffs and therefore you kind of have to call down on most boards. Sucks if he turns over AXdd.

Also - some specific reads on villain might lead to a tight fold somewhere in the hand.

Very impressive - do the graphs include rake?

My general read of donk leads at 10nl on Stars is that small leads are weaker / large leads are often very strong. Given that, I am not convinced there is any good reason to raise the flop. We need to fold the river though. Probably foldin the turn isnt a massive mistake.

Looks like this will be interesting? Any specific goals? Going to be any talk on strategy / hands / etc?

Where you playing?

What is FDB?