Yeah I agree. Refreshing my session graphs on PT4 while I played really messed me up more than it helped me. I usually just use it for the HUD, otherwise HEM2 for me - I'm still old school.
I should have worded that last part a little differently. If you're a winning player, it's actually a bigger risk to not play than it is to play. It feels counterintuitive because not playing or studying > playing feels "safe". I'd even wager to say that at some point, given real time assistance will become even easier to use, every day you don't play the online poker situation becomes exponentially worse. Considering online poker has a short shelf life (5 years? 7 years? Who knows maybe I'm too optimistic). So right now it's more crucial than ever to mass volume. That's easier said than done for sure. That was something Tyler told me that really stuck with me and made me want to play more and get as much out of this thing before it goes under, and I think at some point it inevitably does.
One other thing that has helped me during downswings that a friend told me. If you don't feel like playing sometimes it's best to just make yourself play for 5 or 10 minutes. And if after that point you still don't feel like playing - get off. What I've found is that when you actually get going and get in that groove, or maybe you see a few fish on your tables and the game looks good, you almost always want to keep going. From there it's pretty common for me to get an hour or two in on a day when I wouldn't have played otherwise.
Dec. 18, 2021 | 7 p.m.
Yo! I deleted it and was gonna clean it up and meant to get back to it this week, been super busy. If you can still see it great but if not I'll summarize it better below (will still be long). I agree with Steve on the short term results stuff being crazy.
One thing I like to do is keep up a long term sample graph next to my tables at all times which stays static and just keeps me from going in and checking my results while playing. Even if someone didn't have a long term sample graph, I'd still recommend to put up a static shorter term one where they played well/ran well (that's usually how you win money in poker) to stop them from playing without confidence. And in that case at least they won't be constantly refreshing their bankroll/graph to see how much they are up/down.
I found that the worst time to have results or graphs running through your head is during a session since it can lead you to making mistakes you wouldn't have, losing confidence which leads to the former and lower volume/not feeling like playing or doing stuff like pulling back on bluffs that you would have just gone for had you not looked at/thought about a recent graph or downswing. Just a whole host of problems that can easily compound if you're not careful. It's easy to slip back into old habits so it helps to keep you on track. Looking at small samples can be really tempting. I'm more of a visual person, most guys are, so being able to reassure myself and redirect my focus instantly from a short term one to a long term one really helps. When I look next to my tables and see how well I've done, any thinking of short term variance is pretty much instantly gone. Because after 18 years of playing online (bovada and ignition since it came out), for me that feeling has never completely went away and I'll find myself second guessing my plays during downswings. Confidence and conviction in your plays with poker is really important, even more so online with the sheer amount of volume we put in on a yearly basis. x10 on a zone table with no clock. Some of these downswings can be absolutely brutal as everyone here knows. Sometimes I'll have my graph up while I'm streaming low stakes twitch for fun (used to stream on SteveHarveysSon and since switched to SippedTV) and maybe someone thinks it's an ego thing or a results thing, but that couldn't be further from the truth. It's just a reminder to not set my sights on a session to session basis and to redirect my focus to my overall game so that I can stay focused on my tables.
That static graph has been my best friend in poker for a long time. If I'm running bad I take one look at it and I want to jump right back on the tables since it's 0 EV to sit in my chair and not play at all. No matter how confident I feel, it's nice to be able to visualize it and know 100% sure that most of the spots I'm worrying about are likely variance. And again, if someone didn't have a long term graph to redirect themselves to, confidence comes from competence usually, so using a shorter term one is beneficial temporarily until that person knows they've got a good idea of what's going on. There may be few downsides such as false sense of confidence or something like that, but the pros would largely outweigh the cons imo. I'm sure there are other ways to tackle short term variance like affirmations or using logic, but that graph is just instant for me. I find myself glancing over maybe once sometimes twice a session now and short term variance is totally gone from my mind from that point on lasting until I'm done usually.
Dec. 15, 2021 | 10:28 p.m.
Going live in 10-15. New stream link below.
Sept. 6, 2018 | 8:23 p.m.
Live action joevada baby...
Sept. 6, 2018 | 5:37 a.m.
<3 Miss you man!
Aug. 31, 2018 | 2:45 a.m.
Streamerssssssss. Time to finish this shit once and for all haha. $2k left.
Aug. 31, 2018 | 2:43 a.m.
*Huge update: Hey man! Sorry I've been super inconsistent with my streaming from the very start. I have a lot of things going on right now aside from poker but I'll try to stream when I can. I usually will pull it up on my stream but the VOD's I've left disabled as I've been temp banned a few times for playing copyrighted music (pretty lame). I had to make a new name because of this so until twitch fixes that I won't be posting VOD's.
I don't use the HEM2 Hud because I haven't figured out how to make it work with bovada card catcher and reviewing the transparent hole cards is like cheating basically. I'm surprised they have allowed people do to it for so long. I use drive hud and then convert the hands so I can see the hole cards the next day with Bovada Hand Converter > HEM2.
Been on a super poker burnout after 15-16 years of doing this online so I'm really looking forward to continuing my classes with computer programming to change it up so that's what I've been up to! The entire goal of the stream was to help people out because in the end poker feels to me like a selfish endeavor with one never truly achieving pure satisfaction/happiness from it. Every time I am able to use my skill set to help someone else I feel a lot better at the end of the day compared to taking someones money (or trying). This is just my own personal opinion, I know everyone is different and that's ok.
Good luck and thanks for watching!
Aug. 21, 2018 | 6:31 a.m.
Boom! I'm back.
Aug. 18, 2018 | 10:11 a.m.
Now. New stream name was having problems with last. School started for me so very erratic stream schedule.
Aug. 4, 2018 | 7:13 a.m.
Also, the best way to catch the stream is to follow (free) so it texts your phone when I go live for those of you not as familiar with twitch. My streaming times are completely random based on when I get the free time to do it.
June 14, 2018 | 12:07 p.m.
Hey guys. Thanks a lot for the awesome responses. I am on the last leg of the challenge at $6,300 playing NL200. Currently winning at 35BB/100, 29evBB/100 over 20k hands with a nice red-line on my graph (all 6-max). I will post those results up later today but they are on my stream (not updated). Twitch channel
There's a possibility that I release all of the videos since I have them all stored on my computer. The file sizes are massive so it would take some time.The VOD's should stay up now that I have figured out the DMCA copyright stuff with twitch muting the sound in every VOD. Basically, I have to play Twitch approved music.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate all of the kind words and the people who have watched. The stream has and always will be totally free. Donating and subscribing is optional for me taking the time to share all of this for you. Just an FYI I've made around $15 in donations so that's definitely not the purpose, haha. The purpose of the stream was purely to help people out and also I thought it would be a fun experiment to find out myself how hard it would be to grind through the ranks in 2018 on my 2 month+ poker "break" - not very if you work hard. Games are still good. I was taking a few months off poker so I figured why not do a bankroll challenge similar to Doug's but actually try to finish the entire thing out. I've been streaming very random times/hours over the past two months (took a month off during the challenge).
June 14, 2018 | 11:59 a.m.
Replied above ^
May 6, 2018 | 11:48 a.m.
~$1k. I won't be streaming much in the near future because of RL obligations (back to school + playing main games). I think the twitch only peaked around 30 viewers so I wasn't getting anything out of it.
I left the results up on the stream. I might resume the challenge (if you want to call it that haha) at a later date.
I appreciate anyone who tuned in and hope everyone got something out of it while it did run.
May 6, 2018 | 11:46 a.m.
May 1, 2018 | 3:56 a.m.
Thanks guys. That definitely makes me feel good that people are getting something out of the stream.
April 30, 2018 | 10:44 a.m.
Low stakes results
April 25, 2018 | 6:28 a.m.
Streaming now. Putting up a schedule this week now that school is done (skipping summer classes, I'm a degen). Doing the challenge on Bovie. Plan is to be somewhere between $100-$300 USD and climb to the top. I've already done this when bovada was first getting good. Cheers!
April 25, 2018 | 6:02 a.m.
Streaming now. Very inconsistent streaming times while school is still happening...for those of you around :)
April 10, 2018 | 1:44 a.m.
Hey man! Twitch manually takes them down if they have copyright policies against the music I'm playing :) I've had them not take them down once and during that time the entire sound was muted the whole way through. I think I've fixed this now. Hopefully I can keep them up in the future, I realize this is a re-occuring problem as my entire sound is muted the whole way through when they do stay up.
I appreciate the kind words!
April 10, 2018 | 1:39 a.m.
Thanks man! Super busy irl so hopefully I get enough time to carry this out + full time school. Things are hectic so getting a reliable stream schedule will be the real challenge for me. Hope things are going well for you :D
March 27, 2018 | 8:38 p.m.
Cool man! Right now my schedule is indeed all over the place, I'll be trying to clean it up this week and set aside certain stream times. For now it's a little random but that should change soon. Trying my best to keep up the twitch videos so you can re-watch them but unfortunately twitch is muting most of my audio (probably because the music has copyright claims). Going to see if I can find some ways around that this week.
March 26, 2018 | 11:55 p.m.
Current Bankroll: $143 (+4.3 buyins, 3 sessions total)
March 26, 2018 | 6:34 p.m.
Hey man! I have no idea. It's going to be a long road so I'm going to be taking a fairly balanced approach to it (not going to stream all day, every day). I just did a session but ran into some variance towards the end so about break even on session #3. I expect things to pick up once I'm out of the trenches (NL100 perhaps). The rake at 10NL is massive so I'm looking to take aggressive shots + keep around 15 buyins for the current level + move down if I lose half, god forbid. Thanks for stopping by..
March 26, 2018 | 6:34 p.m.
Hey man! Thanks a lot and great advice/feedback. I think I have some pretty thick skin (or so I've been told) but my girlfriend had me out for drinks that night so might have got annoyed at the end. Bad idea to stream/play while drinking - lesson learned.
Twitch ended up muting my entire stream VOD (I'm guessing because of the music copyright but could have been the occasional swearing). I'm going to see what I can do to fix this. Took it down since you couldn't hear anything.
Down 4.5 BI last session (standard) but still overall up on the challenge 5.5 BI. Having no HUD wasn't too big of an issue but trying to get it working for 30m was, lost a lot of focus.
Ran into a few stream snipers so I put on about 3 minutes of delay (can't believe I streamed without it).
About to stream in 10 mins or so. Thanks for the feedback guys.
March 26, 2018 | 11:03 a.m.
15 years experience. Started playing online poker when I was 16 years old and I'm 31 now. Never held another job. Streaming schedule will be set in my channel. Let's go!
March 25, 2018 | 12:51 a.m.
Mainly because RIO has given me a lot of value. I would like to give value to other people as well. In the end poker feels like a selfish pursuit (it is) and I would like to make someones journey easier. Feel free to check out my twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/corpzerevivr
Why am I doing this? No other reason than to help other people out and motivate me to finish a $100-$10k challenge.
March 25, 2018 | 12:50 a.m.