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I have created the first tool that allows to simplify, compare side by side, and as a result really understand GTO (or node locked solver strategies) by starting analysis from simplified top levels like categories of hands, flops, runouts and bet sizes and drilling down to more specific levels and individual cards.

It is the only tool that allows to compare side by side GTO frequencies and bet sizing across multiple flop textures and any other combination of factors of your choice.
Any kind of analysis should be possible, and any kind of solver data can be loaded potentially.

My next goals are to gage interest, find partners and understand how to make money, as well as guide adding new features by chatting with smart people and figuring out what kind of things and tricks are the most important to pick up from GTO, and what kind of GTO analysis is too difficult or impossible currently (balancing bluffs on all 3 streets comes to my mind here as one example).

Below you can see some screenshots with annotations. The screenshot data is from a modified HU GTO scenario with flop donk bet line removed and 100% flop cbet for 1/3 pot for in position player. Unique features are circled in yellow:
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July 21, 2022 | 5:34 a.m.

Does anyone know any software (or reports) that allows to compare GTO bluffing frequencies for different hand categories on multiple flop textures, turn and river runout types?

Or can anyone recommend any people who can teach how to construct balanced ranges, how not to over- or under-bluff in frequent lines, especially in HU sessions, especially on turn and river?
And if yes, what is the process that those people use to achieve that?

July 8, 2022 | 9:48 p.m.

Does anyone know any software (or reports) that allows to compare GTO bluffing frequencies for different hand categories on multiple flop textures, turn and river runout types?

Or can anyone recommend any people who can teach how to construct balanced ranges, how not to over- or under-bluff in frequent lines, especially in HU sessions, especially on turn and river?
And if yes, what is the process that those people use to achieve that?

July 8, 2022 | 6:35 a.m.

MDA is use case # 3 in my question, but I will cover all 3 as related.

I am not affiliated with Poker Detox, and I do not have a full insight, but I had some communication.

Also I had a look into the software that Poker Detox uses, and I tried to adjust it for either of the use cases 1-3 above. And I discussed my findings with the developer of that software. Poker Detox did not develop that software, but I will call it PD Training Software for references below.

So these are my conclusions so far:

Use case # 1:
You cannot do # 1 use case in PD Training Software, without paying to Poker Detox or some other human coach, as they have to analyze each of your hands manually (Well, they have someone to analyze for free for now actually, but I do not know the level of those people. And I am pretty sure that free is not forever, and that you cannot ask them to use PokerSnowie, PIO or other tools of your choice). You cannot work on your leaks in a poker re-player using your own and free hand history independently, basically.
More importantly, even if you pay to Poker Detox (e.g. via CFP program), or to any other coach, PD Training Software was not designed for leak busting, as their re-player always assumes that every uploaded hand has been played correctly.
All in all, that does not fit #1.

Use case # 2:
You can use PD Training Software to copy a game of the best regs (sort of), but you cannot use the most of your own hand history for that purpose either, as observed hand history is not supported. So you are forced to work with their affiliated pros only, even though you may have a ton of great hands to learn from in your own hand history. And those pros are not necessary the best experts in the player pool where you play.
All in all, that means that #2 is not supported either.

Use case # 3:
Now about converting stats into hands for an interactive re-player.
PD Training Software only input is via hand history text format.
It is not exactly easy or practical to convert population stats into hand history format.
One way to do that, is to play correctly and upload a real hand history.
Second way would be to find a similar hand and make changes to it.
To play correctly you have to convert population stats into a strategy and memorize that strategy. But if you do all of that, I am pretty sure it is not that fast to do, and you do not need training software for that line anymore. So you have to pay to Poker Detox again, provided they have enough content.
Finding example hands and making correct edits to them, and testing are not that practical or simple either in my opinion. I do not know about you, but I would not do it that way.
No wonder that no one except Poker Detox seems to have MDA based hands on PD Training Software platform, and even Poker Detox does not have that many.
PD may have a couple of hundreds of MDA based hands, while I have dozens of thousands in my personal training database already for comparison.

Things may change in future, but I would not expect changes for any of the 3 use cases above any time soon, as the developer of PD Training Software did not want to do either of them per my request

I may not know something, but that is what I know so far.

Oct. 15, 2020 | 10:56 p.m.

Do you mind to elaborate which ones are wrong and why please?

Oct. 15, 2020 | 8:41 p.m.

Thank you for your ideas BigFiszh. My response is below:
"against an optimal defending / playing opponent" - no human can ever qualify to play completely optimal, and this concern is pretty much completely irrelevant anywhere below very high stakes. Humans do tons of mistakes, so such an assumption makes this part incorrect also: "There's "one" solution that is "always correct", regardless of circumstances, that's the GTO solution. A GTO solution IS per definition the maximum exploitative strategy".
If you have taken all the information and ranges that you know about a specific player or player type and used it to node lock in PIO Solver, than yes, you would get the maximum exploitative strategy from a GTO solver, but it would result in many more solutions than one.

"very pool-specific strategies" - this is also a quite wild assumption. Humans are actually quite consistent in how they like to make mistakes across multiple pools and poker rooms (even though different player types prefer different types of mistakes). I can refer you to PokerDetox posts regarding MDA, and my own stats confirm their findings. You may find articles about population Hot Spots quite beneficial also.

GTO is good to know, but it is not the most efficient approach to real life poker.

Oct. 13, 2020 | 8:41 p.m.

Is anyone interested in utilizing their own free content like hand history and stats for exploitative strategy and leak busting training software?

Idea in details:

Personally I am interested in all of the next 3 use cases:
1. Leak busting: Interactive re-player software where I import my own hands that I played incorrectly (using PokerSnowie blunders for instance). I should have to press buttons just like in a real game, and be able to provide a correct decision for a hand that I played incorrectly.
2. Learn by copying strategy from the best regs based on my observed hand history. This is similar as in # 1, but it should be based off my observed hand history.
3. Learn the maximum exploitative strategy based strictly on a mass database analysis of a combination of line, board and player type. We will need an interactive re-player here also, but it should be driven by stats collected for board texture, player type and line combination.

My impression so far is that training software for any these use cases is not available on the market yet.
I would like to know if my impression is correct, or there is anything available already.
If nothing is available, I would like to understand why that is the case, and find partners to build it (I am a software developer).
I also would like to understand if anyone else is interested in training software for any of those 3 use cases, or it is just me.

Oct. 12, 2020 | 6:14 p.m.

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