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That's why! Didn't think about the exact combo count, that makes lots of sense, thank you! <3
Sept. 27, 2023 | 1:21 p.m.
Thanks! So you think as an exploit to regulars (who are aware of the BB dynamic) -- the better strategy is to 3b polar & enough and using big c-bet strategy OTF since they are less used to, and probably over-barreling better runout turn?
Sept. 27, 2023 | 10:53 a.m.
Nice! Will check it out
Sept. 27, 2023 | 10:42 a.m.
22:20 you mentioned the overbet is not really a thing if villain developing the raising range. Why would that be the case? A4s is barely having any equity vs his continuing range or we certain about we losing the chance of bluffing river?
Sept. 27, 2023 | 10:41 a.m.
Got it. Never think about the raising size to be none-all-in. But in practice when you are holding Ah on that board facing an 4x overbet jam vs a solid reg it feels so shitty -- probably only gonna be 87hh xD
Sept. 27, 2023 | 10:40 a.m.
21:56 you mentioned the reason we call AQdd is that villain is not supposed to bluff diamonds -- however when you were browse over around 21:31 we see that all the A9-A4s region villain only give up the spades combo -- wondering why that makes the AQdd the only bluffcatching combos?
Thank you!
Sept. 27, 2023 | 6:26 a.m.
17:40 is very interesting -- I do not expect the population to incorporate both actions (OOP donking turn/IP check range vs none-donking range).
Which node do you think we can exploit the pool the most? -- As in as the OOP should we go for XR more when we have decent equity since villain is not check back enough, or should we actually donk more since IP will have no clue how to play certain part of his range?
Thank you!
Sept. 27, 2023 | 6:20 a.m.
Hey Alexandra nice video. I think 4bp is pretty undercovered as a topic in RIO, so these surely bring good value! Maybe doing the BVB 4BP somewhere in the future? -- I always find it tricky since the range is supposed to be the widest among all 4-Bet Pot formations.
:)
Sept. 27, 2023 | 6:15 a.m.
Also in a solver sim IP is going to stab a ton OTF vs a check (e.g. at 13:27 you show on AJ8r IP will stab b50 42%), I don't have the data but I generally feel the pool is playing the IP as caller kind of passive. How do you think BB should react if IP is not stabbing enough & probably stabbing stronger? Do we just increase our betting frequency w the same sizing or do we size down?
Thank you!
Sept. 27, 2023 | 5:22 a.m.
Hey Shaun thanks for the video!
Regarding polar strategy preflop -- How effective do you think it works vs the general population at low-midstakes (Say 100NL). I've seen some regulars calling pretty wide from the button (probably all pocket pairs are pure calls + some marginal hands like A6s/A2s/T8s/86s). Since we will be checking a lot as OOP so I guess our trash part lose EV when villain is overcalling?
Sept. 27, 2023 | 5:09 a.m.
Even at cev this is sort of close right? -- since we almost always have no boats by the river, I guess we will need to defend our straight at some frequency to not get exploited if villain is capable?
Sept. 26, 2023 | 4:04 p.m.
Got it -- how about vs rec?
Sept. 26, 2023 | 3:55 p.m.
05:41 table 1 you mentioned Davy maybe applying a 6-max concept in terms of cbet sizing. I’m curious to what content do you familiarize yourself with 6-max strategy as a HU specialist, and do you learn those to mainly exploit/understand the 6-max player who is trying to extrapolate the strategy in HU? Thank you!
Sept. 26, 2023 | 3:08 p.m.
Yeah that makes a ton of sense. Don't think humans are incorporating too many donkshoving river strategies here and funny indeed you're riding with the exact combo that prefers a check xD
Thanks for the reply!
Sept. 26, 2023 | 3:07 p.m.
16:34 you mention 87hh can consider jamming -- wouldn’t that be the same w pot size bet without value-cutting ourselves vs none-nut flush? I assume nobody is just calling Ah here when they are beat by only one exact combo or am I missing something?
Sept. 25, 2023 | 11:48 a.m.
11:23 "small bet is so popular because everyone is so smart they can actually play back at this thing" -- burst out laughing when hearing this :p
This hand if river is a brick how frequently will you keep bluffing this combo? I think after turn overbet gets called villain range is already pretty dense around flush/top pair + fd type of hand -- would you say the success rate of river bluffing become lower when it's a brick? Thanks!
Sept. 25, 2023 | 11:46 a.m.
Thank you! Now after the explanation and I watched again it all makes sense. Thanks a lot!
I definitely think the river thought process for Hand 1 is very valuable — even regulars deviate massively on river node, so shedding lights on how to play a max EV exploitative strategy on the river node with regards to combos/sizings/frequencies is the most valuable part from a veteran player like you to me, since I’ll need probably 20x time to put the whole puzzle together. Hopefully you will make more of these :D
Thank you again!
Sept. 25, 2023 | 11:43 a.m.
Demondoink Sounds great -- look forward to it!
Sept. 25, 2023 | 3:54 a.m.
Thanks for the video Mark.
on 08:30 you mentioned for bluffs we use suited combo more because it blocks less autofolds, I'm a bit confused on what "autofolds" means here.
vs b50 cbet OTF - IP is almost pure folding no-pair-no-backdoor hands (other than some AQs) at equilibrium, so that makes spade kind of bad bluffing blocker OTT since spade blocks a ton of folds. Do you mean if we bluff offsuit hands e.g. AQo then it has more combos (6/12) with one spade and suited hands like AQs only has less (1/4) combos with spades?
Thank you!
Sept. 24, 2023 | 4:20 p.m.
Appreciated the detailed reply!
I'm still a bit confused --
I thought the principle of GTO is a strategy that cannot be exploited, and in a solver sim, both opponents plays perfectly given the various inputs. Was wondering how does "the best strategy against the worst-case scenario opponent" come into play when the "worst-case scenario opponent" wouldn't exist in solver land?
Sept. 24, 2023 | 3:45 p.m.
Demondoink Curious how does the mental game coaching go? How much do you think it impacts your performance? Always curious to find out how non-technical elements are shaping curshers' game :D
Sept. 24, 2023 | 2:25 p.m.
12:42 AQs hand I was interested in the river action as well and it seems villain is very spade heavy. However I checked the Wizard sim all the AQo is still pure shove (the sim pure 4b AQs). Was curious on your thoughts on this -- do you think it is because 1) with 120BB in play our top pair decrease value and prefer checking back or 2) villain is not hero calling some 8x and some 3x region of his range? (I assume it's pretty standard to call off any top pair here)
Thank you!
Sept. 24, 2023 | 2:22 p.m.
Hey very nice video Nuno -- I enjoy the talk and appreciate your take on playing vs regs. I usually shy away from playing when I see the my pool is super reg-heavy, this gives me some new perspectives!
Sept. 24, 2023 | 2:14 p.m.
39:13 AKo hand, do you think we can gain some extra EV overbetting OTR exploitatively? Since I feel 1) KKx board is probably overbluffed, 2) you made villain's continuing range wider OTT, so villain might be somewhat inelastic in terms of bluffcatching say b90 (what you used in game) vs b125.
Curious about your thoughts on this -- thank you!
Sept. 24, 2023 | 1:15 p.m.
30:13 the JTs hand is very interesting. Certain think this is a very underbluffed spot -- in hindsight, do you think we could flat OTR if we know BB is a very good player to prevent us from folding this hand? (It's really difficult to see him bluffing but it's still kind of shitty to fold out a chop)
Sept. 24, 2023 | 1:04 p.m.
37:39 really like the turn 3bet -- I do that sometimes myself but not too large of a sizing.
How do you plan to follow up OTR if get called? Will you jam most rivers?
Sept. 24, 2023 | 12:51 p.m.
Nice video, enjoy watching it.
20:45 the A9o hand is fairly interesting, I always have a hard time playing a marginal spot like this.
After b50 OTT as an exploit. OTR do you think can we move this hand (both A9s/A9o) into a pure fold vs pool? Since you said people are playing too straightforward on these spots, I will assume A9 in particular is pretty weak vs his block bet even when pool is betting a ton of Kx OTF?
Sept. 24, 2023 | 12:40 p.m.
Hey Tyler -- thanks for the video.
You mentioned many times the “maximum-minimum” strategy during the first hand — I do not quite understand the exact meanings (both the concept & related to the actual hand), can you elaborate a bit on that? Thank you! :)
Sept. 24, 2023 | 12:17 p.m.
Yeah I was also thinking about if this could be a potential river sizing tell -- since OOP shouldn't have thin value bet in theory, the medium size bet feels like two pair wants to get value and bet fold to flush or exact hands he has -- too strong so he sized down to get called. Instead his JT/T9/naked diamond will probably overbet again OTR?
So on the river, the medium sizing is probably more value heavy vs the overbet line? What do you think about this -- am I reading too much into the sizing?
Got it! As I feel BB 3b is probably is the most underbluffed spot for low stakes -- I always pay attention to BU's showdown to see if the regulars in the pool are adjusting accordingly, also trying to think about counter-exploits vs them.
So this video is great, thank you! I'll run & study some sims myself and go through the video again (and potentially come up with some more questions :D).
Sept. 27, 2023 | 3:22 p.m.