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Comment | try2think commented on ur view, advice etc

ty for ur reply, that really helped a lot!!

Feb. 3, 2015 | 11:07 p.m.

Comment | try2think commented on ur view, advice etc

thanks for replying:)
first question, why is it the bottom of my range?? in a normal situation, when some1 is polarized this is an oke spot to call, because he needs to have bluffs in his range.

thank u saulo for ur advice. i understand what ur saying. but still even if hes a nit, and villain understand hes a nit, he needs to bluff sometimes, doesnt he?? or are these opponent just not thinking in that kind of way?? and am i thinking a little bit to much in this way and its going to be wrong against these types of opponent.

Feb. 3, 2015 | 5:18 p.m.

Post | try2think posted in NLHE: ur view, advice etc

hello,

this is my first and hopefully an interesting post. i am really struggling beating the low stakes and i want to improve sow i can play higher limits. i struggle at the low limits because i think that i outthink myself. or just because i play sow freaking bad.
everyone get their fair share of coolers and bad beats, but i am not going to talk about that.
what i am going to post a hand i recently played, and it is a hand in which i think i need to get better for me to go higher in stakes. (sidenote: ive got some experience in poker, and recently played with pokersnowie, which opened my eyes in certain things, furthermore ive seen a few vids of ben sulsky, which i think were very usefull)

like i said i am going to post a hand, i am going to talk about the hand street by street, i am going to tell my reasoning and i am going to show what i think our ranges could be. after the hand i got some questions and i hope u can help me with that.

1*
Full Tilt - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 105.5 BB
SB: 40 BB (VPIP: 20.41, PFR: 20.41, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 49)
BB: 131.2 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 252)
UTG: 132.9 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 26)
MP: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 19.76, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 346)
CO: 168.8 BB (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 8.95, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 394)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jc Jd
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop : (22.5 BB, 2 players) 9c Qc Ah
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn : (22.5 BB, 2 players) 5h
CO bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River : (42.5 BB, 2 players) As
CO bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

CO shows Ac Qd (Full House, Aces full of Queens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)

Hero mucks Jc Jd (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 57%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)

CO wins 116.4 BB

analysis:
preflop:
cutoff opens, and i 3bet JJ, fairly standard, i could call, but since i do not know my opponent i tend to 3bet this hands, this way i can see how he reacts, will he fold to the 3bet, which hands he will call oop, will he 4bet etc. He ends up calling my 3bet (snapcall)

ranges:
his range: i think his 3bet calling range consist every pocketpair (excep QQ+), Axsuited, A8offsuit +, every broadway suited and unsuited, and i think he will call with suited connectors, like 76s up till 10-8. something like that
my range: i know my 3bet range, i consist of some big hands, but it also could some low/mediocre suited cards or some trashy hands like k5 A9offsuit etc.

flop:
flop comes AQ9 2 clubs. he check and i check behind. i could bet in this spot, but i think its to thin right now. because when he calls the bet it puts me in some though spots on later streets. so i decided to check. i could get value from worse hands, but i think a check is fine.

ranges:
his range: see flop, it doesnt change
my range: betting range, every set, big aces, every 2 pair and all of my bluffing hands (low suited connectors, k5 etc.)
checking back range: KK (70% check/30% bet) some weak Aces like A9 or weaker. some draws like k-j or something, and i would check back my Qx and lower pairs (JJ check 85% bet 15%). and maybe i say maybe i would check back AA, but since his range connect pretty well i think i would a set here like 98%.

turn:
brings the 5. and now he leads. i see only see 1 option here really, and that is to call. i have no reason 2 raise, since my flopcheck indicates a weakish hand.

ranges:
his range: bet; every A, maybe a Q or a 9. 2pair AQ or A9 and myabe even Q9. a set, which would be a set of 9 or 5. and for the rest he could bet a lot of draws, k-j, j-10, flushdraw etc.
my range: raising range would only bet A5 at this point since i would have bet my other strong hands on the flop.
calling range. Ax, KK Qx, JJ-1010, and a lot draws. and i would probably call A5, since when i raise now i rep such a narrow range.

river:
brings another A. and now he leads pot!! good bet. (sidenote if i were him i would shove!! better and polarized, ideal spot. because my value hands which i made the turncall with have showdown value, sow they can bluffcatch. and when he was bluffing hiimself on the turn he get max fold equity, since i sometimes have a bluffcatcher and do need to call some % of the time. value bet a Q i think that would be to thin, since i can easily have him beat (Ax or KK). but i am not raising here like ever, since i cannot rep sow many strong hands (only A5). sow if i were him and have like Ax, a boat or like a bluff i would have jammed this river. and if i had like a Q i would valuebet thinly, to get valuefrom worse, and if he decides to shoves i would still call, because of my narrow value shoving range).

now to my point of view, since i know that a Q in this spot would be thinly, i assume that he needs to have an A, a boat or a bluff! i call and see the bad news.

the real question now is:
did i play my hand fine/correct?
does villain ever gonna have a bluffing range here?? because players at these stakes tend to bluff some very bad bluffable boards , like 2-3-10-7-k, and then they overbet or pot river. but this hand got ideal river shove, but they never show me a bluff in these spots (in which i should respond to fold), but then to my question, do they have a bluffing range here ever, or do i need to fold JJ-KK and maybe Ax always??
did i outthink myself in calling that river??

its a lot to read, but i would be happy with some feedback

kind regards and good luck at the tables

Feb. 3, 2015 | 2:03 p.m.

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