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41 points

Felt like I didn't learn anything from watching that...can you add some explanations or reasoning for your plays please

Dec. 21, 2014 | 9:01 a.m.

I don't think you can fault your line as played for value...the board didn't run out too well in your favour but no need to spew off, your calling with goods odds and in position. Could fold the turn, how much value does the 9 high flush draw have ?
Raising the flop so deep has merit imo as it is very hard for him to keep raising without 45 (and he might not anyway without re-draws so deep), so you have a lot more options on later streets.
The decision comes down to the donk bet stat for me, if the donk bet stat is high then I'd prefer raising it, if his donk bet stat was low then I'd prob just flat.

Dec. 21, 2014 | 2:57 a.m.

Nice, how did you create this graph ?

Dec. 19, 2014 | 5:02 a.m.

Comment | 24Caliber commented on Coaching

OK thanks

Click "Phil Galfond" profile. hmm

Dec. 18, 2014 | 1:01 a.m.

OK :) Thanks for the feedback guys...think check behind is best based on your comments and reasonings

Dec. 18, 2014 | 1:01 a.m.

Hand History | 24Caliber posted in PLO: Bottom 2 pair OOP BvB
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) CO: $510.25
BN: $122.64
SB: $334.35 (Hero)
BB: $146.52
UTG: $100.00
MP: $180.38
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is SB with K K 6 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.00, BB calls $2.00
Villain is playing 42/21/8 over 300 hands
Flop ($6.00) A 6 8
Hero bets $5.00, BB calls $5.00
Turn ($16.00) A 6 8 4
Hero checks, BB bets $11.20, Hero calls $11.20
I'm not sure what the best line is here...it is very hard for my hand to improve, but I have good odds to check-call. Betting could be good (guess I would have to shut down on most rivers)
River ($38.40) A 6 8 4 T
Hero checks, BB bets $23.00, Hero folds
I hate getting owned, but I guess that is the peril of playing out of position!
Final Pot BB wins $36.50
Rake is $1.90

Dec. 14, 2014 | 8:27 a.m.

Post | 24Caliber posted in PLO: Coaching

Hi there,

I play a lot of 100nl (euros) PLO 6 max cash and I really want to improve my game. Although I post hands on the forum, study videos and spend a lot time reviewing my own game, I feel I need a player from higher stakes and with more experience than me review my game to help me improve. My results are pretty good but I feel I can could do better, and I have goals for moving through the stakes over time.

Is there any 6 max PLO coaches that charge by the hour or provide coaching packages? I have lots of ideas for sessions, lots of hands to review and lots of questions to ask.

Thanks, please contact me with details of what service you can provide if you are interested.


Dec. 14, 2014 | 8:24 a.m.

Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) MP: $32.00
CO: $97.90 (Hero)
BN: $111.15
SB: $71.40
BB: $116.70
UTG: $100.85
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is CO with K K 3 T
MP folds, Hero raises to $3.00, BN calls $3.00, 2 folds
Villain is playing 22/16/9...TAG
Flop ($7.50) 5 A T
Hero bets $6.00, BN raises to $17.85, Hero calls $11.85
C bet seems pretty standard for value and with NFD, he raises which was strange,,,I can't really fold - call or raise better?
Turn ($43.20) 5 A T A
Hero checks, BN bets $21.60, Hero folds
Uhh now wtf, I fold because I hate drawing to hands that could already be dead!
Final Pot BN wins $41.05
Rake is $2.15

Dec. 14, 2014 | 8:12 a.m.

Thats a very light call preflop...just because you have the button ?

Dec. 13, 2014 | 11:45 p.m.

Hi Willy, thanks for your comment.
As I barrelled all streets then I think I can value bet AA looking to get value from hands like KKxx or QQTx...it's thin I know, maybe too thin and maybe does not align with his preflop aggression stats.
My thought process is that by barrelling 3 streets I rep a lot of missed TJQ hands and seeing as he hasn't raised any street there is not many combos of sets/straights in his range...however I'm unsure about this (hence why I posted). What would you think about a very small bet on the river like 5-10$?
The stakes is also euros not dollars (not sure how to change this on the site)

Dec. 13, 2014 | 9:48 p.m.

Hand History | 24Caliber posted in PLO: Check Raised on River w/ backdoor trips
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) UTG: $92.95
MP: $97.10
CO: $471.09
BN: $235.51 (Hero)
SB: $111.45
BB: $100.00
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is BN with J 4 K T
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, SB folds, BB calls $1.00
Villain is playing 54/42/26 over 184 hands
Flop ($4.50) 9 8 5
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4.00
What are the arguments for checking against betting this flop? Maybe checking behind because is he very aggro and doesn't like folding in general.
Turn ($12.50) 9 8 5 4
BB checks, Hero bets $11.00, BB calls $11.00
River ($34.50) 9 8 5 4 4
BB checks, Hero bets $28.00, BB raises to $83.00 and is all in, Hero folds
I'm confused by this bet and timed out...for my pot odds, do you think this is worth calling - that he will have enough bluffs in his range to compensate for the times he has 99 88 55 ?

It's hard to know which players are capable of check-jamming rivers light right <?>
Final Pot BB wins $87.50
Rake is $3.00

Dec. 13, 2014 | 9:44 a.m.

Do you ever flat pre?  What are the Sb and BB 3 bet stats like?

June 16, 2014 | 6:57 p.m.

As played pretty easy fold for me on the turn...the queen is going to help his hands a lot more than it helps yours, this is going to be the case for a lot of turns/rivers and why I guess that we all find it a tricky spot to play.  
I like a raise on the flop here as a value bet (bet sizing tricky, depends on the history of the HU), it feels dirty because you flat his 3 bet pre so he can rep aces better than you can, but its still very hard for him to come over the top of your bet without a holding that is probably in very good shape or will have decent equity against your A5, he doesn't know you are going to raise-fold and can't just jam any scraps (would like to know his 3 bet % and maybe some of his other stats that are applicable - but playing HU you both know that you are not only 3 betting AA)...this can often slow the hand down as well on later streets, which I feel works well for this type of hand, in this situation where you'd like to get to showdown without inflating the pot.

June 9, 2014 | 1:03 a.m.

It's not a C bet though...he 3 bet preflop.

So do you think his check-call, check-jam range contains only sets on this board after 3 betting pre...check behind turn and fold river if he bets ?

June 9, 2014 | 12:47 a.m.

do you mean lead or bet behind? He checked to me on the turn

June 8, 2014 | 6:39 p.m.

I fold this preflop, its a mediocre/vulnerable hand and your position is very weak. As played I think it is a very fine line to continue after the bb raises your turn lead....there is a lot of scenarios where you are in very bad shape and only a few where you are in good shape

June 7, 2014 | 10:48 a.m.

Although I disagree with the last paragraph; the reason being that there is not a lot 2 pair hands that make sense by the river - they would have to be quite uncoordinated and also the main 2 pair hands you could hope for value from would contain a Q, which most combos are blocked.  

Having a picture of his stats would help in the decision making process

June 7, 2014 | 12:47 a.m.

As played bet the flop and play from there...just a value bet really

I don't see the need or advantages of 3 betting pre-flop in this situation.

Find out for yourself though by doing some 3 bet filters in HEM and compare the difference in results as well as with different hand ranges....granted any hand reviewing in PLO can be subject to high variance as it is typically a high variance game, however you can check through some of the pots as see if there are any common trends or spots that can be improved on.

I'd be interested in your results if you do conduct that analysis :)


June 7, 2014 | 12:41 a.m.

BB: BB: $173.10
BN: Hero: $279
SB: SB: $266.39
Villain is playing 64/42/17 over 1.6k hands, this hand sample size includes anything up to 6 max. His resteal stat vs hero is 34 total: 33(27) from SB and 35(78) from BB

Preflop ($4.00) (3 Players)
Hero was dealt 3 2 5 A
Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero calls $10
Any opinions :/ ?
Flop ($32.00) 7 2 3 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $27, SB calls $27
Just a value bet, not that keen to see another card - his C bet is 23% and check-fold 64(76)...his check raise 1(74) and check-call 34(76)

Turn ($86.00) 9 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $60, SB raises to $225.39, and is all in, Hero calls $165.39
On the turn his donk bet is 0(99) and his check-raise 50(2), check-fold 50(2)..not a lot of stats
River ($536.78) 4 (2 Players)
boom!!! Hit my 10% ;/ but gutted to get it in so bad
Final Pot
Hero has 3 2 5 A SB has 3 9 9 5 Hero wins $532.78
As always, any feedback appreciated :D


June 7, 2014 | 12:25 a.m.

Comment | 24Caliber commented on Am I becoming a nit?

Hi Jim, as played pretty easy fold for me on the flop - calling is a horrible option imo as I just cannot see a good future for the hand, post that decision.  
The only other options are to raise or fold, I can understand reasoning for raising and getting it in as top 2 is pretty strong, but there is a lot of ways this could be an epic fail.  We've only invested 13...

I don't mind leading the flop - I think leading and checking both have their merits....it really depends on the table for me, generally PLO tables are pretty damn active (it is 4 way also) lol so I might lean towards check and then re-evaulate. 

June 2, 2014 | 11:35 p.m.

SB: SB: $187.09
BB: BB: $136.40
HJ: MP: $28
CO: CO: $108.68
BN: Hero: $285.80
The villain is playing 72/55/34 over 94 hands and generally very loose aggressive

His 3 bet from the BB is 33% (15), Cbet 59%, turn bet 57%

Preflop ($2.00) (5 Players)
Hero was dealt 9 A T J
MP calls $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4, BB raises to $21, MP folds, Hero calls $16, SB folds
Flop ($49.00) 8 Q A (2 Players)
BB bets $24, Hero calls $24
Turn ($97.00) 4 (2 Players)
BB bets $91.40, and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot
BB wins $93

June 2, 2014 | 11:22 p.m.

Thanks for the feedback all

June 1, 2014 | 11:49 p.m.

Comment | 24Caliber commented on Your favorite stats?

Went to showdown (can have a big influence on determining when to bluff/barrel and also what sizing to use for value bets and bluffs), aggression factor on river...it's hard to identify one specific stat as a favourite because every situation is unique and also sometimes you have to use a combination of stats to get a picture of what is going on - for instance a player who is playing 40/35/15, his postflop stats for C betting, turn barrelling, fold to c bet, etc. is going to represent something very different to someone who is playing 16/13/6 (even if their postflop stats are similiar) 

May 29, 2014 | 4:45 p.m.

Hand History | 24Caliber posted in PLO: 200nl 6 Max: Bottom 2 pair fail
BN: BTN: $802.93
SB: SB: $198.30
BB: Hero: $446.23
HJ: MP: $257.80
CO: CO: $379.52
The original raiser is playing 50/35/14 over 650 hands and is very active, the cold caller 67/16/7 and generally playing loose passive.

Preflop ($4.00) (5 Players)
Hero was dealt 5 K K 3
MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $4
People suggests 3 betting here, but I don't feel like it achieves anything useful.
Flop ($20.00) 3 5 T (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP bets $16, CO folds, Hero raises to $68, MP raises to $224, Hero raises to $380, MP calls $27.80, and is all in
Turn ($735.80) 9 (2 Players)
River ($735.80) 4 (2 Players)
Final Pot
Hero has 5 K K 3 MP has 4 K T T MP wins $520.60

May 29, 2014 | 4:34 p.m.

My general plan is to fold weak hands out of position ;)

May 12, 2014 | 2:40 p.m.

Comment | 24Caliber commented on luxury problem

Fold it preflo imo, your hand does not draw to any nuts and the gap in the middle weakens your hand a lot...although you will have position on the UTG raiser - there is still the worry about the players behind 3 betting or flatting which can lead you to a situation where you are playing a hand multiway, with a hand that does not play very well multiway

May 12, 2014 | 1:36 p.m.

Being ambitious works out a lot nicer than being greedy ;)

May 6, 2014 | 8:09 p.m.

btw you are doing really good aswell, nice results

April 28, 2014 | 8:43 p.m.

Probably feels epic to you but imagine that you flipped a coin 10 times, if it came heads ten times in a row we'd all be like thinking it is epic....however if you flipped that coin 10000 times then the chances of it coming 10 times in a row somewhere in there is very realistic - how many hands have you played in your lifetime?  Also lets say you are running bad...what do you want us to do about it lol<
The EV line; in my experience it is a very poor representation of what variance actually is (I'm not even sure if HEM figures it out correctly for Omaha), there are so many factors that you can't control or you are unaware of that impact the results greatly - focus your energy on what factors you can control and improving your game is my advice, stayed focused on your goals.

April 28, 2014 | 8:30 p.m.

If his 3bet% from the SB is 45%, then do you ever considering just limping the button pre-flop with this type of hand? (and play a flop if one of the blinds raise).  

What is your general strategy vs these types of "maniac" players (hit something decent and let them spew?)

As played I'd flat his C bet as I think you can find spots on later streets where you get lots of $$$$ in the pot with him crushed.  
On this flop, even against a maniacs range, I don't think you will be making a great deal of money getting it in (granted it may be profitable but its pushing pretty thin IMO)

April 25, 2014 | 5:39 p.m.

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