Just dont 3bet ajo oop against call stations. No reason to construct an oop 3bet range in these stakes. Wait for big hands, bet big, get the money. Dont hold back. Idiots will give it to you when you got the goods. If youre going to light 3bet, do it in position.
Jan. 20, 2018 | 1:24 p.m.
1/2 live 10 handed, stack 550 effec with villain,
In a very limpy loose passive game, standard for 1/2. Had another hand against same villain where i called down with qq on k67k5 and he showed 55 for rivered boat. Misplayed that hand according to many of you on here. So interested to see your thoughts on this wild ride of a hand.
On the button with red 55, utg villain limps, utg+2 big fish sitting on 220 makes it 12, folds to me, i call my button, villain calls. 3 way to the flop which comes 3sjs4c, pot 39
Reason for calling, seems standard considering stack sizes. As well, villaim limps from all positions with about 75% of his holdings, so the odds of face a limp reraise were small.
Action on the flop checks to me, i check back. Thoughts? I think stabbing with the 5 of spades is much better than red 5s. Allows me to continue easier on alot of turns, plus block alot of flush combos.
Turn comes the 5c, villain checks, fish utg1 makes it 10 into 39, i raise to 50. Villain tanks and stares me down, then flats. Fish snap folds.
Raise size large as fish was very call station heavy, didnt want him block betting and get away cheap with flush draws, jx, etc. Villains line on the turn is interesting, i would think from previously play of his he would raise most of his straights on the turn being a2,62,67, all combos including off suit combos are likely in his range. I would also think he would lead most of his jx on the turn considering he would have the lead on the turn given the action. So ranging him i would expect mostly flush draws, some occasional jx, certainly sometimes straights possibly trying to trap me.
River, pot 144, comes kc, board reads 3sjs4c5ckc,
Villain proceeds to snap lead for 200. These are poker pro machines, not chips, snap is less than 2 seconds of action and thinking in this instance.
What do you do? I find it hard to put him on a hand thats worse than ours, i guess maybe 33,44, but i would think those are leading turns quite often. Same with kj which is certainly a possibility, but again seems unlikely he checks twice with that hand. In the previous hand i mentioned, he made a similar donk lead on the river when rivering the effective nuts, however that was in a pot half the size, where i showed substantially more weakness. He bet 65 into 75 i believe it was in that spot.
All things to consider. Some help would be great.
Jan. 20, 2018 | 1:22 p.m.
Thanks for the assurance. I had a couple rough sessions, but the variance has balanced out, and ive had 3 wins in a row for a little over 1100. good decisions are finally starting to pay off against these massive fish.
Jan. 18, 2018 | 10:26 a.m.
Pretty weak check on turn. Villain can easily stack off with kx, qhx hands, and hes pretty capped considering he didnt raise multiway on flop. River seems rather good for villains range. Id probably be jamming turn. Max punish his kx holdings, when called we cant ever be dead. Id also bet bigger on the flop. 85 into 100. Set up bigger turn bets against weak opponents.
Jan. 16, 2018 | 9:33 a.m.
appreciate the comments, difficult to implement this strategy when there are so many opportunities to steal against weak opponents. gotta just play tight and patient. arguably most frustrating thing is having a weak opponent suck out on you and not being able to reload in a good game.
Jan. 13, 2018 | 9:02 p.m.
Hero playing live 1/2, just moved to new table, 9 handed. Started hand with 170
Utg raise to 8 (standard sizing in these games from all positions), folds to hero in bb with ako, decides to flat.
Ive been experimenting with flatting qq,kk, aa, ak, out of bb when i close action and i am guaranteed heads up. These opponenets over value there holdings like crazy, and results short term have been promising. Of course it is a 3bet alot of the time. Any thoughts?
Flop adkdqs, pot 17, i check, utg bets 10, i raise to 29. Probably could have made it 35-40. Ultra wet board, lots of worse hands he could peal with and i wanna push and get value from. He calls.
Turn, adkdqs6s, pot 70, i bet 45, should have bet closer to pot, mistake on my part. He jams, i have 90 left.
What do you do?
Obviously im super high in my range. I guess i could have 10j, but opponenet unlikely to perceive me as ever having aa,kk,qq here regardless of my previous strategy i was talking about.
Opponenet could have aa,kk,qq, which is 5 combos, he could have aq, which are 6 combos, he could have qjdd,q10dd 2 combos, and he could have a hand like ajss a10ss on the turn which are possible. Of course almost all 10j suited is possible which are another 4 combos, but i think its unlikely he doesnt repop me with 10j on the flop considering the texture of the board. Unless he has exclusively 10jdd which locks down the board so much,i dont think he has 10j often here.
So theres 6 combos that beat me, potentially 9 if you include another 3 10j suited combos, which i excluded. I chop with his ak hands. I beat 6 combos of aq, 2 combo draw combos, and some other potential holdings, which are another 2 ish combos. He could also be over valuing kq, i think its unlikely but not out of the question.
Im getting 3.7:1 on a call with 90 to win 340 pot.
I certainly beat some of his value combos that play this way, i lose to others as well.
Not sure if my analysis is correct, still learning. Id like some input if possible.
Jan. 13, 2018 | 6:07 p.m.
Looking for some advice.
Currently grinding 1/2 and some 1/3 live semi consistently. Had a bankroll which i busted in the summer (small one mind you about 4k), and have been working on rebuilding slowly.
Ive won some money, and i am certainly profitable in these ultra weak 1/2 lineups.
I'm currently employing a 1 buyin strategy for my bankroll. Currently operating from approximately 1k roll(fluctuates with wins losses etc, i built this up from 140 dollar buyin, won, then won again, etc, and some injections) with injections from another source of income approximately every 2 weeks. My long term goal for my bankroll is 10k to comfortably grind 1/2 and 1/3 stakes. The reason im employing this strategy is to limit variance in my losses. Run bad, lose small. Run good, potentially win large is the basic thought process. However, when employing this strategy i've noticed that my sessions become increasingly high variance when forced to buy in short stacked, and then play short stacked if i start off the session losing a few small pots. This ends up resulting in taking high variance preflop lines when my stack becomes <50bb deep, which ends up resulting in my edge being minimized as my edge in these games comes from exploitating ultra weak opponents post flop.
Any recommendations on what to do?
Of course i've considered just waiting to build my roll up without poker. But it would take to long to do so, and i really enjoy the grind and the game.
I have read some stories of bankrolls starting and growing and they sort of originate from the same sequence im in. Take some shots with a few buyins, get lucky with one and run it up. Then employ consistent bankroll strategy of 35-50 buyins (or whatever you think for your situation is correct).
Would appreciate any advice from some more experience players.
Jan. 11, 2018 | 10:05 p.m.
ballinonabudget, after some more though about what bigfizsh said, i think my flop check was terrible and weak. turn bet was weak, river play poor. i played a few session since that session. 2 wins, 1 loss. Much more aggressive flop play, bigger value bets, and it has shown some reasonable success.
Jan. 11, 2018 | 9:57 p.m.
thanks teddy, i agree re most of it. so many lines you can take against these ultra passive opponents. was a difficult spot considering i had just sat down, however in review it should have been a clear laydown. idiots with sunglasses and a hood on at 1am on a saturday in a 1/2 arent bluffing rivers oop.
Jan. 8, 2018 | 10:24 p.m.
Thanks for your input, i agree with your comments about the implications of kings in their respective ranges. however, once bad passive players make top pairs they revert away from passive scared lines and become aggressive, and considering neither took lines on the flop, or turn i comfortably ruled out kings from their respective ranges. the check call lead river with 66/77 doesnt seem likely either, which is why i ruled out flopped sets from utg range.
Jan. 7, 2018 | 8:34 p.m.
Thanks for the comments. I slept on the hand and woke up thinking essentially similar thought processes to you. I still think my flop and turn line are fine. I think it was an easy river fold and a clear mistake.
In position i would bet flop, but out of position i think my check is reasonable.
Had no reads, was my third hand on the table. Villain was wearing a hood with sunglassess on in a live 1/2 sitting on 600+. Clear fish, he was applying a limping his entire range strategy.
Thanks for the input, ill be sure to apply it in the future
Jan. 7, 2018 | 6:35 p.m.
Hero starts hands with 150 at 1/2, all villains cover.
utg limps, utg+1 limps, hero raises to 14 with qq. Mp calls, utg calls, everyone else folds.
Flop comes k67 rainbow, utg checks, hero checks, mp checks.
Thoughts for checking in opposition to betting: seems standard, if i bet into 2 opppnents i cant really have bluffs in my range. Im short stack relative to the pot and can get blown off my hand easily by draws. Cant really see many worse hands calling on the flop.
Turn comes k, board reads k67k rainbow.
Utg checks, i bet 25, mp folds, utg flats.
Seems like standard value bet and sizing. Very difficult for either opponent to have K once utg checks turn. Mp should never be checking back k or set on flop. Utg range seems 88-jj. A7ss type holdings. Possibly 89suited but i think its unlikely.
River 5, board reads k67k5.
Utg leads 65 into 90. Hero tank calls. Utg shows 55 for rivered full house.
Cant really see my self folding this river. Hes basically representing so few hands that getting 2.7 ish to 1 im not sure if i can fold. It seems difficult for him to be bluffing
Thoughts on my line, sizing, river decision?
Jan. 7, 2018 | 7:15 a.m.
Interesting spot. Not sure if i played this incorrectly, got owned, or was correct in my decision making just got shown a better hand.
I open Ahjc from utg, 220effective in a 8 handed 1/2 live game. Mixed group of players. Some old nits, a couple loose middle aged fish. Im young kid, likely perceived as very aggro.
I raise utg to 8 with ajo, folds to bb ( middle aged elderly man who calls).
Flop 10c5s3h. Bb leads for 10. I call.
Turn 2d. Bb leads for 20. I call.
River 7s. Bb leads for 40. I tank call, BB shows down ako.
Basically, my thought process for each street was as followed. On flop, too weak to fold. Good turns include j,q,k,A. Bb leading on that board texrure into utg raiser makes little sense. I have position, range advantage, etc.
Turn, i pick up gutter. But it is essentially a blank. 46 gets there but i think its unlikely BB leads 46 on the flop. 1/2 players generally play draws slow, i doubt that play is in his range.
River, BB betting three times polarizes the hell out of his range. I just dont think he does this with 10x, even a10 or k10. And i think its unlikely he does with 1010. He could have 33, 55, but players at these limits are often more inclined to play hands slow. Especially when oop against utg raise. 7 only completes 1 2pair combo being 107. But it seems unlikely 107 would be played this way by bb. I was getting 2:1.
bb said after hand he new i had aq and i would call down. Obviously bullshit.
Any thoughts on jamming river. I would certainly do that for value with jj-aa. I just thought calling was fine in this spot against this ridiculous line taking by villain.