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Yup I agree. Malta and Mexico wont be a problem. 

What about the visa situation? Should also be a factor, right? Im suprised people mention countrys like Canada and Australia. As a EU citizen how likely is it to be able to stay longterm in those countrys? I always imagined that to be pretty much impossible. 

Yep I agree with you Jonas. The range I provided was kind of a worst case scenario in which I could still make a slightly +ev call. Idk I tend to do this, when Im uncertain about my opponents bettingrange.

The reason I posted this hand is bceause the guy showed up with AQo otr, which definitely suprised me, as I would expect most people to check the flop. 

What I find interesting is that you would check back hands like AQdd and AJdd. I guess I understand the logic behind that (sd value/ we need some fds in our checkback range) but on the other hand, these hands are so strong we can almost valuebet them on the flop. I think we should at least bet A3dd-A5dd, dont you think?

thx for sharing your thoughts and feel free to correct me if I got something wrong in my post :)

Thx for your comment Dario. I have a lot of questions :)

When you say you would barrel KJ, does that mean you dont have c/continue range otf and ott? How would you play TT-QQ? I feel like there is definitely value in having a c/c range, and since KJ is the weakest Kx I have in that spot I thought it would make sense to c/c.  

I could be convinced to bet the flop with a lot of my range, but betting flop and turn with hands like TT-QQ and KJ seems very thin. I also dont think he has many worse Kx. KTs proabably but that are only 2 combos.

When you say you would bet the river for balancing what do you mean by that? Actually I would prefer to bet a pretty polarized range, conatining hands that have more than 50% eq vs a callingrange and then add the right amount of hands without sd value. I dont think KJ has 50% vs a callingrange ever in that spot (but maybe Im wrong). 

Im also suprised to read that you say  "busted draws he gonna give up anyway"

What makes you think that he is never bluffing otr? I doubt people will check back like a busted T high fd or something like that if they happen to show up with that on the river. Would be interesting to hear your opinion about that. 

thanks again for your help :)

Hey Chael,

You imply that it is standard to have a c/r range in that situation on the flop. What would your c/r range look like, what hands are in it?

I would pretty much always c/c there, because I feel that I almost never have a hand that I would want to raise for value. AQ would probably be the top of my range and vs a very polarized 4betting range Im not sure if there is a lot of value in a c/r. 

Idk maybe Im losing too much value in these spots.

Im interested in this as well. 

Ben, do you also include AKo and QQ in your 3betting Range? Do you think it is a big mistake to only 3b KK+ and some bluffs (or possibly not 3betting at all, as juancopani said) in these games? 

Once you get 4b with AKs (AKo/QQ) in this spot, do you plan on flatting or trying to get it in pre?

It is about $100k in rb.

Additionally to the great looking stars of course :)

Hey Ben,

Hope Im not too late.

I was wondering how you would deal with card removal when trying to come up with a balanced river betting range.

In reality our opponent will have bluffcatchers in his range that block parts of our value range, some hands that dont block anything and he will also have hands that block parts of our bluffingrange.

How do we make sure that we are valuebetting and bluffing the right amount and not bluffing too much/too little?

loved the video btw. Would definitely like to see more of this kind with crev and stuff :)  

How can both of these statements from your op be true at the same time?

"And since some players might stab here a lot, I expect to get c/r bluffed or maybe even floated OOP."

"On a board this dry, he probably c-bet all of his air"

Great discussion guys! Thanks for your thoughts/input.

Ok... Could you guys tell me your betsizing on all streets? And most importantly I would also like to understand your thought process on why you would go smaller. I must admit Im really a fish when it comes to deep play, but shouldnt it be our goal to set up a pot where we can get all the money in by the river?

For example if we make it 15 pre, then 1/2 potsize on flop and turn, we get to river with a 120bb pot and 120bb left. What would we do on the river in this scenario? How much would we bet? 

Would be really cool if you could help me out on this, since my thought process seems to be very flawed in situations like these.

Thank you very much so far.

his 3bet BB vs BU is 9%, fold to 4bet 38%. But even with 3k hands these stats are probably not that reliable.

Im 4betting so big because we are deep and I assume he is continuing most of his strong 3betting range anyways, no matter how big I 4bet. That is of course totally unbalanced, but Im not sure if that is a problem vs someone playing 15/10. But good point, Im definitely interested in opinions about my preflop sizing.

About checking turn... I guess that is an option idk ingame I felt like Im losing to much value by checking.

thx for your comment!  

If his b/c range on the river is 7h6h, Ah3h, 6h3h,22,77 u can shove for value. 

Board: 8d2hJh5d4s

Equity Win TieMP2 66.67% 66.67% 0.00% { JdJs }

MP3 33.33% 33.33% 0.00% { 88, 22, 7h6h, Ah3h, 6h3h }

But Im not sure if a passive player would lead out potsize otr with 88 and 22