38:00, your equity vs following hands:
If you weight it as being more likely that he has just an ace given his sizing the play is good as you need 37% to break even.
It IS somewhat close but showing it down is good anyway since it stops 89TJ potting flop which might be profitable if you fold everything. Still is profitable even if you do call this though with 42.59%.
Do you stack off any ace in this situation (EG AQhTJc?) against this sizing?
Dec. 3, 2014 | 1:10 a.m.
you might be making enough getting them to fold when u shove to counteract the lost equity when running the money in the middle vs their range half the time, but calling to see the turn will give you information regardless of how good the player is (they simply cannot always bet the turn as their air will not have enough equity on average- thus they will have to check their air sometimes- if they choose to balance this with value hands they will make less with their value hands. the argument is that this makes you more when you are ahead (they check their bad hands, you pot and win, it gets checked down on scare cards and you don't lose more when they have better, you stack off on a blank but don't lose too much there as they have some combos pair + draw stuff now so our equity is kinda flippy). the information in this scenario is pretty valuable as it lets you play very aggressively vs their weak hands and often shuts down the action when you were behind when a scare card comes.
April 12, 2013 | 10:16 a.m.
what sauce is saying here is the breakeven point for getting K8 in if it loses you a fair bit of money shoving (as their range is stronger) might be somewhere around his area as you make up the money lost in all in equity (eg if you had 35% equity in 200 bb pot, your pot equity is 70 bb so u lose 30) in their folded check raises. getting it in 1/14 times you check raise makes me a bit confused though as this is obviously too much check raising and could be exploited by shoving any 4 even with 0 equity.... i might have this wrong though, clarify?