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9 points

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) SB: $32.82 (Hero)
BB: $25.00
UTG: $4.56
MP: $64.98
CO: $20.08
BN: $58.49
BTN 24/18/14 (VPIP/PFR/3bet preflop stats)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with A 9 A J
3 folds, BN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BN calls $1.95
Flop ($5.85) 6 2 6
Hero checks, BN checks
Turn ($5.85) 6 2 6 8
Hero bets $5.60

Feb. 20, 2021 | 3:38 a.m.

I hadn’t considered unblocking aces. It is something I need to add to my thought process. Thanks for the reply.

Feb. 12, 2021 | 7:50 p.m.

Comment | Mikec123 commented on Close EP opens

Vision pots AKQ6 if there is an A high or K high suit so AKQ6 (Kss) is an open. However it does fold if sss.

Vision pots all 7766, ds, ss and rainbow which surprised me. It also pots all 7755, 7744. It pots 7733 ds and ss but folds r and pots 7722 ds but folds ss and r.

Vision pots T877ds but folds any ss, sss, r. It also pots T997ds and TT97ds and a few of the ss combinations.

I believe vision assumes GTO play from all and a zoom 500 rake structure therefore we should be playing tighter in the low and micro stakes. So because I am new to this and not having the best post flop skills in the world I would be a bit tighter if in doubt. I think these hands are all marginal from EP so there won't be a huge amount of difference in ev between opening and folding. If I feel that I have an advantage post flop especially if I am not too worried about being pushed of marginal hands by bluffs or hands that are weaker I would tend to open them but if I feel out gunned post flop I fold these.

I agree with pretty much all your thinking except about having to play 7766 passively post flop. There are many times you might have to if you are multiway with overcards on a straightening board with a flush draw etc but there will also be times you hit top set with a straight and/or flush draw when you can be more aggressive. Middle and bottom sets are tricky.

Take all of this with a pinch of salt because I'm new to PLO and far from an expert.

I also welcome any advise or criticism of my opinions.

Feb. 12, 2021 | 1:33 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) MP: $32.42 (Hero)
CO: $29.92
BN: $4.35
SB: $27.76
BB: $22.84
UTG: $61.00
CO (46/13/0 over 24 hands), BB (33/15/8 over 52 hands)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is MP with T J T J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60
Flop ($2.65) 8 A J
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
Turn ($2.65) 8 A J Q
BB checks, Hero bets $2.54

Feb. 12, 2021 | 12:13 a.m.

Just about every time Emty says "Population tends to xxx" he might just have well been saying "Mike tends to xxx". It's like he's reading my soul. Anyone else had this feeling?

Enjoying the course so far.

Feb. 2, 2021 | 11:05 p.m.

I'm new so bear that in mind with the following:


I personally would probably not 4bet this hand. I think you are ahead of his range so a 4bet wouldn't necessarily be bad but I don't think you will have much fold equity.

Being double suited is great but I would like the suits to be A high and K high as opposed to A high and T high or I would like the 4 to be a connected card 9 (poss 8) or higher before I 4bet.


At PLO10 I have seen players like this call down or stack off incredibly light e.g in multi-way pots with 8 high flushes, bottom straight on a board that favours the high straight (65 on 987 board) etc. Just massively overvaluing their made hands and rarely fold if they hit a draw.

This said I would check fold the flop. IMO you are unlikely to get enough hands that beat yours to fold to make it a plus ev lead.

If you are check calling you may be able to pull the odd bluff off but I would say you would most likely to get called down extremely light.

I understand the call with the specific read that he might be weak but I think there are too many turn cards he will bet again that don't help you. As played with check on the turn I would not bet river. A month ago I might have bet pot or close to it on the river but have been called down very lightly making this a marginal high variance play at best.

Against this type of player I think you will find yourself in much better positions and can extract your value then. It doesn't feel good folding the flop against this player but you miss just about all of it and if nothing else you have to respect his position on you. Sometimes you just have to let others get away with their semi-bluffs and bluffs. Trying to outplay "worse" opponents has cost me plenty.

Unfortunately your seat at the table sucks being to his right as you would love to play pots against this guy in position.

I would appreciate any comments on my lines of thought as I'm here to learn!

Feb. 2, 2021 | 10:40 p.m.

Thanks for the in depth reply Emty. Appreciate your time and effort.

Feb. 1, 2021 | 4:39 p.m.

I was doing some study with vision as MP vs UTG raise. The had given was AKK3. What I found interesting was that vision calls the stronger double suited hands but raises weaker ss or sss hands then calls rainbow hands.

Is this because we are hoping to gain more equity with the ss or sss by gaining fold equity by raising and/or are we hoping to gain more value by keeping more of our opponents hands in play with the stronger hands. I believe vision is based on 500zoom so not totally applicable to micro stakes but I am interested in the thought process.

Jan. 19, 2021 | 9:11 p.m.

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