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If your sad cause Poker as a business isn't working for you dont be sad no more.

In the 1900s the Airplane business didn't do well!! A whole century!

Also the railroad business had a bad century!
So if you play poker and you lose for 10 years like me just dont worry anymore.

Accept it! The road to success isn't a straight line from A to B. Its more of a zig zag and all of a Sudden C D E F G are gonna pop up.

Don't get distracted. If B is your goal you need the discipline to go through the pain.

Its not always easy, in fact if it was easy everyone would do it. Our biggest enemy are Facebook, Instagram,, YouTube, Tumblr and Netflix.

They waste our whole day and all we get is some entertainment.

Now it's completely fine to watch Netflix or YouTube if your endgoal in life is to get entertained.

But otherwise it's a distraction and should be avoided!

April 6, 2019 | 5:03 p.m.

Thinking of yourself as a business.

Imagine you were an actual business.

What factors do you think would determine the value of yourself as a business?

Is it your net worth? Hell yeah.

But net worth is not the most important factor when it comes to this.

I think what's way more important is that you grow as a player but also that you dont take big risks!

Having integrity is important also!

April 6, 2019 | 4:53 p.m.

Day 2 of my journey: didn't sleep well.
But thinking longterm now.

In 10 years everything will be good.

Im saving a lot of money now and investing in Southwest Airlines (LUV). Later on I will buy sum Bank stocks.

The banking business is just too good. Hoping that SouthWest will stay strong in the next 10 years.

April 6, 2019 | 4:43 p.m.

Post | Pokerlogical posted in Chatter: Pursuit of Fishiness

The fear is strong in me... Fear of becoming a fish. I tilted away countless stacks. Time to stop? Maybe.
I need to change my goals. First things first I have to accept that I'm an retard fish.

So my new goal is to accept my mistakes!

And let's see maybe I can make a living at NL2... see you soon...

April 6, 2019 | 6:34 a.m.

Suggestion 1: Give players that play a lot on your site free access to Essential memberships on RunItOnce.

For me this would be the tipping point to move a lot of my volume to RunItOnce Poker because it gives me a feeling of progression and moving up in skill.

Maybe gather some player feedback to see if many other want that as well?

Suggestion 2: And as an above average player (I play really disciplined if I want to, but ocassionally I'm tilting away my whole balance but if I'm grinding I play 200k hands a month) you'd really spoil me if you give me some merch for "free".

The cost doesn't have to be much i'm imagining a point system where you get 1.5% additional rakeback and I definitely want dat pack of playing cards even if it means I have to grind 5 months to get it.

Also I wanna swag RunItonce hoodie to let everyone know who is the real MVP.

I really dig your design but at the current price point I'm simply not willing to buy merch of any kind really. Merch is overpriced the way it is. Nuff said. This applies to every site I've been.

And if you think about it you could use merch as a leverage to reduce cost because the perceived value is around 30-40% higher than the actual cost of producing it. Needless to say that's just my guesstimate based on my own perception of runitonce merch.

Suggestion 3: Now we're getting into territory that's been never explored by any poker site yet.

I've always been a huge fan of 3D-printing and it didn't take me long to realize the potential it offers small businesses. With 3D-printing it's super easy to create some small figurines, kind of like action figures.

Maybe I'm dreaming right now but I would kill for a "Ghil Phalfond" action figure that looks like Kryptonite with a stylish "R" on his chest similar to the image that's been posted in a different thread. Also a cape.

Other figure ideas include:

#1: Poker playing girl that is wearing a nice long red dress with 2 cards in her hand. I'm thinking along those lines of 67s or a small pocket pair.

She wouldn't be that kind of girl that would step too far out of line, basically never
calling OR 3betting suited onegappers but she likes the colour red so that's why she playing 67 of hearts.

She has long hair not too long tho and she's wearing a necklace but she isn't wearing a ring even though she's married.

Boots: average high heels or sandales.

Drinking habits: red wine or cocktails (Sex on the beach and pina colada). She has her drinking unde"R" control.

#2: Poker playing cowboy girl with a big cowboy hat holding pocket Kings in her hand.

She has medium length blonde hair (a bit on the short side tho), above average breast size, she's wearing a blue jeans vest, and a white T-shirt.

The white T-shirt is showing parts of her belly, it is also a bit fancy so the T-shirt isn't even going in a straight line but it's longer on the left side of her belly and shorter at the right side of her belly. On her arms the T-shirt is a little bit longer than the vest so basically the vest isn't even going to her shoulders but it's more around her neck and the T-shirt is covering her shoulders and a little bit more than that.

Also it's really important that the T-shirt isn't flat but it's more like waved so that her look is relly nice.

She is also wearing a tight, long blue jeans. There's an argument to be had for short jeans but that would make her look too slutty and we don't want that, do we?

Of course she's still single and she isn't wearing any accessoires.

Boots: definitely not high heels.

Drinking habits: She's usually drinking beer at the ba"R".

#4 The ba"R": now this would be the second non-human place which would be kinda expensive to realize (at least 300$) so I won't go into detail how I would design it.

But I want to mention that this bar has the "Splash the beer" feature.
How it works:
Step 1: Buy a beer.
Step 2: Take a sip.
Step 3: Smash it on the ground.
Step 4: profit???


This is so innovative. Why hasn't anyone thought about that?

Isn't the name for that feature taken? Yes, by us.

#5 Evil slot machine:

You know integrity is important.
But what's even more important is going for a meme.

So we created this 3 Reel retro slot machine with the top symbol being a "baR".

#6 Poker guys: Poker player with hoodie, gentleman poker player with suit.

#7 The poker table: The first non-human place. A poker table with a green felt.

Now to create these figures you just need some 3d-artist that does detailed 3d models for 3d printing.
This would cost around 150-250$ per model if you want high quality.

The ba"R" would be quite a bit more expensive like 300-800$ cause its really detailed.

And you also need a 3d printer and filament.
Filament is the material. It cost around 1$ per cm^3 so since the figures arent solid it would probably cost around 5-10$ per figure.

Now when it comes to painting, honestly I would let the customers paint these figures themselves.

You could also paint them and charge a higher price.

Packaging has to be adapted for each figure so that no parts get broken. So I would go for custom packaging for each figure and some nice protection for the package.

If you read this far congratulations. You are an excellent Reader.

April 2, 2019 | 12:55 a.m.

I like it but I think we need more avatars like Full Tilt Poker. Also sexy women avatars!!!

And maybe the option to buy a drink for your opponents

April 1, 2019 | 12:49 p.m.

Well so I have RIO Poker saved on my Desktop so I can see the icon and I really dislike it for a couple of reasons.

1.) The Colour White:
While it's not bad if some part of the Icon is white I really don't like that the full icon is white. It has the same color like a text document, it's not engaging me in any way. In all honesty when I look at the PokerStars Icon, first of all, it's red so it catches my attention immediately even when I don't look at it, second of all, it engages me so when I see it I see the red spade and then I zoom into the white star and it really makes me want to play poker.

Now on the other hand when I look at the RIO Poker Icon, it's just there but it doesn't engage me.
I'd highly suggest that you make the "R" and the crown red with a black background and maybe some white text that says "RIO".

Maybe without the RIO I dunno...

2.) The size:
The text "Run It Once Poker" is SOO much bigger than the Icon itself like 3 times bigger actually. That's why I really think that you should add a black background to get the proportion of the text to the icon perfectly right.

LIKE and UPVOTE if you agree with me! I can't be the only one that sees it this way!

Visual Clarification:

Feb. 22, 2019 | 1:06 a.m.

Despite the (known) bugs I just love Run it once Poker!!!

Phil it seems like you just cured my depression with this amazing product!!! FOR REALZ.


Feb. 6, 2019 | 7:08 p.m.

I like the idea of splashed pots so far especially since it will loosen up the play and it will be way more exciting to play because every hand you hope for a splashed pot :D.

Besides that I think it would be cool if there would be an additional option to get rewarded with Run it once merch on top of that because me personally I really like the design of the Run it once cards but I'm not playing poker with friends often so they have no real use for me (foreveralone :( ).

But if you would offer points that can be redeemed for merch at RIO I wouldn't mind getting a free T-Shirt and a pack of cards in a timeframe of say a year because in the future I would definitely take these cards with me and play poker with them in home games at some point.

I just like the idea of getting rewarded with merch and I think it can be beneficial for the site too because it can be seen as marketing.

Also another thing that I would appreciate if you organize live tournaments with satellites running in the client.

You could also run a promotion where you change the Splashed pots to "Tickets for live RIO events".

Instead of "$ in a form of an ante" players get "$ in form of Live Tournament tickets at RIO events". I think many people wouldn't want that.

Some would mind it and be unhappy with it but maybe you give those players the option to exchange the Ticket to cash and then everyone would be happy. Me personally I would take the ticket because it's a nice change from the boring online grind.

I think this would drive so much volume to your site it'd be insane. But I could be wrong.

Feb. 6, 2019 | 4:26 a.m.

Cool I like splashed pots!

But I have a question. Can a 30bb stack player win a 1000bb Splashed pot or are his winnings capped based on his stack size?

So say a table has a 30bb player a 200bb player and 3 100bb players

1000bb STP Appears.

Everyone goes all in and the 30bb guy wins.
So I assume that he wins a split pot 30bbĂ—5 = 150bb + 1000 bb.

Or does he win everything even the whole 200bb stack???

This would really incentivize shortstackers and everyone hates them.

Feb. 2, 2019 | 4:48 a.m.

why isn't it better to check river for bluffinduce?

I don't think our opponent will often have TT-KK here, QQ-KK gets mostly 4bet pre and JJ is kinda often raising flop, not so sure about TT, TT will not often raise flop I guess.

Then he definitely has all these busted flushdraws like KQhh, QJhh, QThh, T8s, 86s also it's possible that villain was floating our flopbet with AQ, AJ and that he decided to checkback Turn even though the board is really drawheavy (because maybe he didn't want to get checkraised or he wanted to look weak and induce a bluff by your QJ KQ type hands).

Also villain can have the Backdoorflushdraw and he will sometimes bet it and sometimes check it. So all-in all I like a check/call better on the river given that we also would like to check with TT-KK here given that a valuebet is really thin here with those hands.

well the question is if we can maybe blockbet for 40 cent with range and if its higher ev if we get called by all 9x rather than checking and bluffcatching.... both can be viable options imo. but blockbet should be small like 40-50 cent imo

Jan. 29, 2019 | 3:30 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom Opponent donks and barrels
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $2.03 (Hero)
SB: $1.15
BB: $2.10
UTG: $3.17
MP: $2.00
CO: $1.25
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BN with Q Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, SB calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04
Standard. 3x Preflop because I don't want to see flops because of rake.
Flop ($0.18) 8 J 6
SB checks, BB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, SB folds
People rarely donk at this limit and if they do they usually have a draw/Toppair or sometimes a set.
He makes it slightly bigger than average (3/4 Pot compared to 2/3 Pot which you will see most of the time) so I had his range towards strong draw/set/strong Toppair.

So basically he can have 88,66,J8s,9Tss,QTss maybe ocassionally a spade flushdraw.
If I raise flop I will probably isolate myself vs strong range.
Turn ($0.46) 8 J 6 3
BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32
Clear call. Still ahead of his draws/Jx.
River ($1.10) 8 J 6 3 2
BB bets $0.58, Hero folds
Now I'm behind against his flushdraws and only ahead of Jx which he'd check. So I think I have a pretty easy fold here.
Final Pot BB wins $1.06
Rake is $0.04

Jan. 24, 2019 | 12:06 a.m.

The main question is how often does he have a draw when I have AQ with the Ace of hearts?

Not that often so call Turn and fold on blank OTR is probably the best play.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 8:22 p.m.

Having the Ah in my hand obviously sucks.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 7:27 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom Fish raises me what to do?
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $4.39
SB: $2.00
BB: $1.37
UTG: $1.87
MP: $0.66
CO: $2.10 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is CO with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BN folds, SB calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04
Flop ($0.18) Q J 2
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.13, SB folds, BB calls $0.13
Turn ($0.44) Q J 2 7
BB checks, Hero bets $0.28, BB raises to $0.56, Hero raises to $1.91 and is all in

Jan. 23, 2019 | 7:26 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom get raised in 3bet pot
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $1.96
SB: $2.31
BB: $2.02 (Hero)
UTG: $2.00
MP: $3.92
CO: $2.95
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BB with K A
UTG raises to $0.06, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.22, UTG calls $0.16
Flop ($0.45) J A 4
Hero bets $0.15, UTG raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30
Turn ($1.35) J A 4 4
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.33 and is all in, Hero calls $1.33
River ($4.01) J A 4 4 8

Jan. 23, 2019 | 4:48 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom QQ went wrong
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $2.24
SB: $2.20 (Hero)
BB: $1.93
UTG: $2.99
MP: $3.30
CO: $2.47
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is SB with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.23, BB folds, MP calls $0.16
Flop ($0.48) 2 2 Q
Hero bets $0.16, MP calls $0.16
Turn ($0.80) 2 2 Q 4
Hero checks, MP bets $0.44, Hero raises to $1.81 and is all in
Guess I should go to bed now.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 6:39 a.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom Can we call River?
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $1.13
SB: $8.33
BB: $3.87
UTG: $2.21 (Hero)
MP: $2.00
CO: $1.47
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.06, 4 folds, BB raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.18
Don't know what these big 3bets mean.
Flop ($0.49) 7 K 2
BB checks, Hero checks
Standard check especially with the Queen of hearts I see little point in betting.
Turn ($0.49) 7 K 2 3
BB checks, Hero checks
Could think about betting here but I thought he had some kind of Sd-value after checking twice on a K-high board so I thought he has more something of the lines of JJ or TT and AQdd not so much.
River ($0.49) 7 K 2 3 8
BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32
Did he River a flush? Did he slowplay AK?

Maybe the correct play is to overfold here.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 5:56 a.m.


Jan. 23, 2019 | 4:42 a.m.

Again I tilted away 500$ today.

Tip of the day: stay away from 6+hold'em, mainly because it's basically a rake trap and swingy.

I'll play 2NL Zoom for the rest of the month and try to make 1k$.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 4:41 a.m.

RIP = Rest in PokerStars?

Jan. 21, 2019 | 10:04 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom unlucky runout
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $5.67
SB: $0.06
BB: $2.00 (Hero)
UTG: $8.33
MP: $2.65
CO: $3.32
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BB with 3 3
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.04
Flop ($0.13) 3 K K
Hero checks, CO bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.13
Turn ($0.53) 3 K K 2
Hero bets $0.36, CO calls $0.36
River ($1.25) 3 K K 2 2
Hero checks, CO bets $0.69, Hero folds

Jan. 20, 2019 | 5:57 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL5 Zoom Mistake to broke AK?
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $6.92
SB: $5.21
BB: $5.00 (Hero)
UTG: $5.34
MP: $5.00
CO: $7.40
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BB with K A
4 folds, SB raises to $0.13, Hero raises to $0.45, SB raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $5.00 and is all in, SB calls $3.90

Jan. 19, 2019 | 10:47 p.m.

Are you playing on Stars? I have the same issue and I notice quite a bit of a difference between Nl2 and Nl5...

People seem to 3bet bluff a bit more and generally play better.

Jan. 19, 2019 | 10:36 p.m.

is there a list of the top 10 most important things at nl5? I just want 5bb/100hands

Jan. 19, 2019 | 10:33 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL5 Zoom Big Overbet bluff correct?
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $5.02 (Hero)
SB: $6.04
BB: $5.00
UTG: $7.47
MP: $6.45
CO: $6.14
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BN with 4 4
UTG raises to $0.13, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.13, SB calls $0.11, BB folds
Flop ($0.44) 5 A T
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28, UTG folds
I think UTG is always weak when he checks here and SB is probably setmining so I think I can profitably bet this flop.
Turn ($1.00) 5 A T 3
SB checks, Hero checks
SB has all these strong Ax in his range like AJ,AQ maybe even AK and I think he folded 66-99 on the flop.
River ($1.00) 5 A T 3 7
SB checks, Hero bets $1.96
Ingame I didn't think that potsize is enough to get him to fold his Ax so I overbetted.

Jan. 19, 2019 | 4:53 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom opponent minreraises me
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $2.07 (Hero)
SB: $1.27
BB: $7.21
UTG: $8.61
MP: $2.60
CO: $0.64
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BN with Q A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, CO folds, Hero calls $0.06, SB folds, BB calls $0.04
Flop ($0.19) Q 6 8
BB bets $0.02, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.11, BB calls $0.09
Turn ($0.41) Q 6 8 3
BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.28, BB raises to $0.54, Hero folds
Final Pot BB wins $0.94
Rake is $0.03

Jan. 19, 2019 | 1:46 a.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL2 Zoom Big Bluff
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $2.00 (Hero)
SB: $2.01
BB: $2.42
UTG: $2.06
MP: $4.97
CO: $2.00
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BN with 9 A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.14
Standard 3bet.
Flop ($0.43) K T 5
CO checks, Hero bets $0.14, CO calls $0.14
I bet my whole range with 1/3 here.
Turn ($0.71) K T 5 3
CO checks, Hero bets $0.52
I think people overfold on the Turn but my size should probably be smaller to give a better risk/reward. Also blocking AJ/AQ isn't optimal so I should rather bluff with 67s here.

Jan. 19, 2019 | 1:44 a.m.

JJ-AA maybe?

Jan. 18, 2019 | 12:30 a.m.

+1 even though I won't be stReaming.

Jan. 16, 2019 | 11:57 p.m.

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