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Brian Hastings if you want to quote someone just use the ">" arrow before whatever you put in quotes.

4betting (3bb -> 9bb) and that uses a 2.5x 4bet, but I see if I shift to the "GTO" tree (3bb -> 10bb) now OOP is splitting between 2.1x 4bet

This was a good find! I never noticed how 3b size impacted 4bet size. What I would do in the past is use 2.5x OOP and 2.2x IP. Just to keep it simple but never really thought about their 3bet size unless I couldn't 4bet less than 30% of my stack, then it was call or jam.

Thanks!

April 26, 2024 | 9:49 p.m.

27min Learning how to play flop 3 bets vs an equity driven range would be a nice follow up to this video. Low stakes live cash has a ton of small raises IP & OOP as players are just raising to see where they are at. Learning how to punish this correctly would be a big help. A lot of hands have awkward stack sizes as well, so tempted to just shove flop quite often rather than raise PSB which would be like 1/2 the stacks given the pot gets so bloated preflop from 4-5x opens and MW dynamics.

I did hear one regular say they raise small with a combo draw because in their mind they have already won the pot, so they raise small to just build the pot for when they hit. As if its a guarantee they will hit their flush draw. In their mind they already won, so they are just building a pot.

In this spot PFR cbet $10k into $30k. XR 2.5x to $25k. Should we 3bet the flop for a PSR to $105k?

April 25, 2024 | 11:41 p.m.

BvB the BB is 3 betting the bottom of their calling range. The SB gets to 4bet the bottom of it's calling range. Polar vs Polar range and use small 4bet sizes.

Given Krab mentioned some constraints about using GTO wizard with the multiple bet sizes, it would be nice to have some custom Ai sims loaded up with the size villain's used in game. Especially the ones where they miss a range bet and check back. Increasing the checking frequency to see how you are supposed to play turns and rivers on these unexplored nodes. You did this for the last hand of the video.

39min you mention you want to fold AQo CO vs BB vs a tighter opponent. I usually would play it as if I were in the HJ vs BB 3bet when the pool under 3bets. Everything gets a pip tighter as you mentioned.

April 23, 2024 | 7:21 p.m.

Taking studying to a new level.

There was one hand you were wrong about towards the end that you didn't want to dive into because you said it would be a waste of our time. These rabbit holes are one of the many reasons I have poor time management! Its nice to see some efficient studying staying on topic and not jumping all over the place.

April 23, 2024 | 6:47 p.m.

57min on TTQ-8-4 board you mentioned AK is a nice bluff blocking some AQ KQ type hands and making 99 JJ kind of indifferent. Doesn't betting AK on the river here after 3 betting and checking back twice, look a lot like AK? Feels like players just put you on AK here a lot and it becomes a harder spot to bluff unless you use a really large PSB, which you might do with QQ or TT type of hand.

Previous hands on the turn there was a lot of small betting going on. On this river what bet size would you use?

April 23, 2024 | 12:31 a.m.

41min on J62hh-8x board Going small-small on the turn 3 way is very interesting. Makes me feel like live cash recreational have been playing this spot correctly all along lol. At least with their sizing scheme. They will still polarize a bit too much with their AJ+ hands but they use a lot of 40% bet sizes with their KJ QJ TT type hands.

I would note when I was drilling earlier as PFR OOP SRP HJ vs BTN. After mostly range checking the flop there are still a lot of small turn bets being used as well. In a X-33 line. A spot that I would think would be more polarizing but allows OOP to kind of do whatever they want to do.

April 23, 2024 | 12:20 a.m.

32:30 very common live cash spot where IP bets 2/3 flop and OOP PFR freezes up. AdKx on J52dd board. Where vs 1/3 you have an easy continue mixing in some Xr, but just freeze up vs aggression in a under studied sizing scheme.

I view this spot similar to larger BTN RFI sizes. where the blinds end up 3 betting less often. Where this hand villain using a 2/3 size makes OOP XR less often.

I know you are not for the larger sizing scheme but it does tend to make the OOP player play more honest. Doesn't give IP the best prices on his bluffs but the EQR goes way up.

April 23, 2024 | 12:11 a.m.

34:30 I think this hand is so crucial to be a winning player. There was a player who recently asked me if I suffer from not understanding ranges correctly or is it more risk aversion on why I am over folding later streets at a high frequency?

In this hand when I saw the river bet I immediately thought fold, but you ended up correctly calling vs J9o. In my head I would just call KX, Tx, AsXo, and bluff raise some 86s, 97s, & J6s type of hands. So calling first three pairs on the board. Bluff raising 4th and 5th pair with a straight draw blocker. And folding most other hands.

The way you broke down the ranges with AQ AJ Q9 J9 A8 etc barreling the turn makes a lot of sense where there is less AX in range compared to some Q5s J4s type of hands that play BXB with no SDV and just trying to represent the ace.

Any tips for fixing this risk aversion I apparently have? Some times I'll check back turn to bluff catch river with like TPWK or 2nd pair etc. But then on the river if they B100 to B200 I just freeze up and talk myself into folding because its an under bluffed size. Also vs an OB I don't even consider bluff raising The 86s / J7s type of hands any more. I think I'm left in a paralyzed state of confusion.

April 22, 2024 | 1:21 a.m.

20:30 AKs on 654r-Add-4d board are you playing this the same way in live games with a X-75-75 line?

April 22, 2024 | 1:13 a.m.

Welcome to Rio! Really solid first video. There is a lot to unpack in this video. I loved the extra visuals from John Travolta and sound bites inserted.

I have a question about this masculinity and other regs who tilt. I am not sure what the correct response is to them but something should be said because they are hurting the atmosphere.

The other day this bad reg snapped on a VIP player who literally played every hand the first 2 orbits he sat down. I don't recall the exact action but they were either all in preflop or on the flop J66dd. Where the reg had ATd vs AKo (no diamond). The reg made a comment "if I had 22 I would of won. How can you call that?" The VIP simply responded "But you didn't' have 22 you had AT." The reg snapped on him and started berating him and cussing at him. The VIP apologized "I don't know what I did to offend you but I'm leaving." Walks over to the floor and gets a table change. Usually this type of behavior ends up getting someone kicked out.

I can see the value of being nice to the fun players and saying "nice call" or something a long those lines. But other regs that have these tilt issues and wish to insert their dominance are hurting my bottom line. I try and avoid conflict and be nice to everyone including these regs who tilt. But the casino is not doing much about it. They just get several verbal warnings. Some regs just avoid playing on tables with them because they cause such a negative atmosphere. There seems to be no reasoning with them about the math of being a flip or do you not want the action etc.?

How would you respond in these situations? I think it should be the floors job to ask the VIP player to stay and ask the reg to leave. Casinos are too lenient to these players who lost the pot and "understand their frustrations."

April 18, 2024 | 11:58 p.m.

Chucky is going to haunt you in your dreams

April 18, 2024 | 11:03 p.m.

Tyler Forrester I encourage you to watch some more HCL streams. Its way more common than you think and the person is rarely drunk. They are just trying to be "nice." A lot of "soft play" among friends.

Another classic one I have seen twice already this week is I raise preflop. BB defends. Flop 942. CB 1/2 pot. BB XC. Turn 9426. BB open folds lol. This happen twice with one of them saying "I just wanna save time."

The one last night was just a $1/$3 game but HJ or Co open limps. BB has option to check or raise. He folds.

These games are too funny.

April 18, 2024 | 8:56 p.m.

37:50 "this hand hurts my head." Welcome to live poker!!!! Wait until you see someone check back IP with the nuts because "no one would call anyways." Squeeze pre. X-33-X LOL

April 18, 2024 | 12:34 a.m.

First hand when Steven cold 4bets AQs and Tilly makes a pretty large 5bet $7500 to $25,000. AQs should just be a fold right? Its like bottom of the cold 4bet range. KK is already indifferent at 200bb on wizard for the 2 bettor & 3 bettor. Wizard facing a cold 5bet 200bb deep. On wizard it was 2.5 > 8.5 > 24 > 47 where Tilly went much larger.

April 17, 2024 | 10:37 p.m.

Tyler Forrester what is your take on live streams and sites like GG poker kicking professionals off their site? Heard recently GG poker wasn't not allowing backed players on their site that are promoted by some CFP. Then streams like HCL are not allowing pros to play because I guess they are trying to preserve the longevity of the game with rec on rec violence, but its a bit of a circus.

April 17, 2024 | 10:32 p.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

49:30 another fascinating hand. 4BP IP CO vs BB. B25-X-R. I like the turn check back, but not sure I love the river raise. It is wizard approved, but hard for me to imagine what you get called by. I usually see QQ-TT type hand raising on the flop or QQ/JJ just 5 betting preflop. So facing a lot of JJ-77 type hands and some SCs its hard to imagine what we get called by on this board. Just a lot of boats and straights in BB's 4B call range. JJ would be interesting. You block some ATs/c floats. I think I'm only calling here on the river.

April 16, 2024 | 10:54 p.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

33:30 you mentioned Qs6s is close in the SB for completing vs a LJ limper because he has 50 vpip. What is the bottom of the completing range? What about if there were 2-3 limpers like in live cash? Typically I would just complete any hand that I would RFI with and ISO some where around 12-15% OOP depending on the number of limpers.

I used wizard's range builder to roughly give an idea of my range for the SB. I typically ISO 5bb vs 1 limper and 7bb vs 2 limpers when I am OOP. Can you elaborate on Qs6s being -EV if the limper doesn't have a 50 vpip+? I am not sure how much money I am losing by completing SB so often here. I forgot to include more of the 98o-54o hands.

April 16, 2024 | 10:27 p.m.

It would be funny to watch you talk to a person like this in real life.

April 16, 2024 | 8:07 p.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

Sim was pure calling vs 4bet btw. Was only worth a small blind though.

April 16, 2024 | 8 p.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

42:15 Preflop JTs close to a pure 3bet as you mentioned but folding 80% of the time to a 4bet. Then on the flop folding about 3/4 of the time as well vs the b25 cbet. When Luke was playing in the past he also had this issue where having 2 overs + BDSD + BDFD seemed like a strong enough hand but the SPR is so low, that you don't get to realize your equity very often. So you actually prefer just floating AQ or AK if you have it in your range that can turn a strong top pair hand and not just additional equity. Then the bluffs are coming from small pairs or some gut shots A5s/A4s.

To demonstrate why JTd folds this flop, look at wizard's respond on a K of diamonds turn facing a shove.

April 16, 2024 | 8:41 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

37:10 wizard was 3betting this hand about 1/4 of the time. I was thinking 3 betting this hand is fine and just fold to the 4bet. I don't expect a lot of IP 4 betting to be going on and getting hands like QJo and ATo to fold to the 3bet that dominate you is a big win and then hands like T9s JTs to call that you dominate.

April 16, 2024 | 8:29 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

31:05 I thought you were correct as well bluffing with some Q high and lower hands in this spot, but I thought it would be a X-B-B line as I don't think 99/88 are ever folding the turn. I think in practice this makes for a good bluff as when I check callers defense vs 1/2 pot almost no hand is folding.

However, the probe range by wizard is just polar built around quads and using hearts to bluff. Solver is just going 250% turn and shoving 250% river. Quite a lot of AX actually has to fold as their chopping at best. Its really interesting not seeing any AX betting the turn.

April 16, 2024 | 8:24 a.m.

Patrick Sekinger I am shocked you even responded to this comment. You are a true professional! There are a lot of coaches who barely ever respond and you took the time to respond to a negative comment.

I heard a quote a couple weeks ago that you will never get hate from someone above you. The haters always seem to come from beneath. Takes a lot of ego to argue with someone who coaches for bitb and has had the success you have had.

April 16, 2024 | 8:10 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

24min these spots seem impossible to bluff some times. 3B X-X-B67 line. When opponent checks back twice I think he has some type of showdown. We are mainly targeting ace high hands to hero fold right?

River almost all pairs are value bets here. Not just A8+. Then BTN has to call a lot of AQ+ hands. But no pair is really allowed to fold. Even 22 is calling unblocking all your bluffs.

Defense range

April 13, 2024 | 12:35 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

Callum Ross This ATo hand wizard is preferring to have a spade to bluff spades on the river I think. Because on this run out the AK-ATo hands just pure check the river. Where river 3 of spades now these AsKx- AsTx combos bluff shove.

April 13, 2024 | 12:21 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on 1 Hour of $500 Zoom

18min interesting line with 3B pre X-100-Ai

Noticed you 3bet quite a lot with ATo in this video. BTN vs HJ where I typically just fold preflop. Then BB I'm very linear and almost never find 3bets with ATo but it gets in there about 15% of the time in theory.

I think 2 tables of zoom would be better similar to Gary's recent videos. Or do more post audio review videos where you do your usual 3-4 tables and just record your session, then review any interesting hands in wizard after. I think this has become the most popular format for "all hands reviewed."

April 13, 2024 | 12:18 a.m.

I want to see part 2 of this session. Lots of good feed back from a variety of stakes.

April 11, 2024 | 9:34 p.m.

8:30 vs a post, over limp, + iso, does BB still want to 3bet a polar range vs an iso range? We have less FE vs an iso range right?

22:30 I think this is a leak for many players who 3bet a standard 10-12% linear range from the SB and it’s a pretty hand getting a decent price, so we are tempted to call the 4bet. We just end up playing a bingo strategy postflop which destroys our redline. I checked HJ vs SB and these QJs JTs QTs hands are folding as well as KQs as we are just crushed by HJ 4bet range and are at positional disadvantage. Then I checked CO vs SB and there is still a lot of folding going on from weaker suited broadways. Something like JJ+ AK AQs continues vs Ep/MP. Then 99+ AJs+ KQs+ vs CO for the pure defends vs 4bets OOP. SCs and smaller pairs are in there but depends on your 3bet frequency preflop with those hands.

Pretty crazy how fast the student was moving up through the stakes. I have heard some of the biggest winners online are the ones that fold the most to 3bets. More likely to be true vs 4bets as well.

April 11, 2024 | 9:23 p.m.

Its obvious you spend a lot of time in the lab with your predictive bet sizing in most of the spots. Would be nice to see more showdowns. The adjustments he was making was doing what the hand wants to do mostly.

We saw a lot of 25% cbet sizes from Duth but on K76dd board we saw him size up around 1/2 pot with 85 trying to increase his FE perhaps. Then with 65d When he calls the 3bet, calls cbet, and then uses like 1/4 pot turn on J624dd? Where you mentioned he is just doing what his hand wants to do. So pair + FD trying to get some ace high floats in by giving them a price? Where they are likely only drawing to 4 outs.

Felt a bit one sided. When you have a pro like yourself explaining the action you can clearly see one player being out classed.

April 11, 2024 | 8:54 p.m.

With Duth being a stronger player thank Yako, what percentage of the time do you think Yako wins a HU match? Not sure how many hands they typically play, but I'm curious if a player who floats a bit too wide or uses wrong bet sizes too often on the smaller side. How often do they actually win?

April 11, 2024 | 8:39 p.m.

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