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This is the video. Both hands take place just after the 29min mark.

Jan. 14, 2020 | 5:06 a.m.

In the first hand below hero decided to fold the SB vs a 2.2x open vs HJ.
In the second hand below hero decided to call the 3 bet with T8s 3bb open vs 9bb 3bet.

Why does hero hero choose to play a bloated pot oop with a 1 gap SC T8s and not play a smaller pot with more implied odds with 87s? I can't wrap my head around putting in 6 additional bb with T8s and not an additional 1.7bb in the SB, or not 3 betting 87s in that spot. Both hands are oop, I just think playing a smaller pot is more beneficial and allows more post flop play. Can someone @Saulo Ribeiro explain this to me?

Jan. 14, 2020 | 5:02 a.m.

Some people open 2.4bb from LJ / HJ then 3bb from Co / btn.
i see others open 2.5bb from LJ-CO then 2bb on btn.

Is it better to size up in LP or size down?

What would you do in live games?

Jan. 14, 2020 | 4:45 a.m.

Thank you. I don't own a solve. If its quick and easy feel free to solve. I think the mistake is preflop with the 96s being an open in the Cutoff. I think its a bit too loose and that is where the problem starts. I think i'm ok with 97s though from the cutoff. If the flop had come 8d7s3d maybe it would be same discussion.

Jan. 6, 2020 | 1:40 a.m.

Welcome back.

Jan. 4, 2020 | 9:38 p.m.

I struggled with A9s-A2s hands in 100bb live games where open size is 3-5bb on avg. All options fold, call, 3bet seem reasonable. Would love to see Axs video. Even if its 30 minutes of folding pre.

Jan. 4, 2020 | 2:18 a.m.

Henry Lister

12:40 mark you mentioned you thought about going quarter pot with 88 here and expecting to be up against AK here a lot. 4 bet pot, facing a quarter pot on the flop, then X X turn. Villain checks the river. Do you think 25% pot gets called often by ace high? I do this in my live games for single raised pot and some 3 bet pots, but i'll even go much smaller like 5-10% pot if I really think they only have ace high. What do you think about using a micro bet size? I feel like 15-16bb they still fold pretty often with ace high.

Jan. 3, 2020 | 9:07 p.m.

First hand what are you doing with your 66-AA (non sets) on the river? Are you value betting TT+? Do you bet fold TT+ without a diamond and call with a diamond?

Jan. 3, 2020 | 8:34 p.m.

It's HU Co vs BTN. Typo where it says "BU" should be BB. Pot size and stack size are correct. Its $2 btn - $3 SB - $5 bb. No straddle. Being a 4bb raise pre, but some what typical for live games. Live players dont defend BB as wide as online due to the size pre.

Anyways im going to assign a 40% or so range to BB calling pre. Villain is recrestional player, only couple orbits with him, mostly passive, either open limping or calling a raise. Does not seem too wide pre in other spots as he mostly folded.

Against this preflop BB defense range, how do you play 9d6d on this texture. Im assuming flop is 100% bet with this combo.
1) do you flat the check min raise or 3 bet?
2) once you 3 bet flop, do you take a free card on the turn or shove?

I think I get most of his fd to fold turn, so when im called its only by a better hand. Some times he'll call off a hand like 7d5d of AdJd. Small sample vs him, so im just guessing.

Jan. 3, 2020 | 7:22 p.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on Poker Study Advice

All your points are spot on. I prefer session recording and post auduo the best. Followed by live play with audio. Would love to see some hands from your live games.

Jan. 3, 2020 | 2:03 a.m.

Post | RunItTw1ce posted in NLHE: 9d6d CO vs BTN on 862dd

$2-$3-$5 live game (9 handed)
Hero ($covers) 9d6d opens $20
BU ($515) calls
flop ($45) 8d6c2d
hero $25
BB $50
hero $145
BB call.
turn ($335) 8d-6c-2d-3s
BB ($350) X
hero all in

I think once the BB calls the flop 3 bet he is not folding 8x or better on the turn. Question becomes is this still a good value shove? Let's say 8x calls 90% of the time and 99 and TT call nearly 100% of the time. I'm still ahead of all the QJdd hands that BB may have, so what is the best bet size / line on the turn?

Jan. 2, 2020 | 7:38 p.m.

At 33:20 you chose a 5bb into 7bb sizing. What do you think about a 2x pot sizing to put Ax or maybe a hand like J10 in a tough spot?

Dec. 25, 2019 | 2:20 a.m.

In this spot do you ever consider leading river after check calling flop and turn?

Dec. 25, 2019 | 2:14 a.m.

I actually had the same question Henry Lister CO is about 25% range

Would you just iso
22+, 87s+, A10+, KJ+, J9s+, Q9s+, K9s+, A2s+? (18.6%) ? basically folding lower SCs and some K8s-J8s hands. Also how do you feel about over limping in this spot? I use an over limp strategy in live games a lot where I feel like I get to use position still and realize my equity quite a bit against face up opponents.

Dec. 3, 2019 | 9:09 p.m.

Really liked the video and drawings. Similar videos would be appreciated! May I suggest doing some hand clases though like 54s-T9s, 22-88, A9s-A2s, weaker broadways, etc..Maybe 6-7 different hand classes that cover a bit more. Pio is always nice as in the last example you see how other SCs or your range as a whole performs. I was just thinking more of a replayer format where you go over a bunch of hands with SCs you played for the month or Axs etc. Anyways thank you for an awsome video!

Dec. 1, 2019 | 9:35 a.m.

Think he was referring to SB $ as dead, being SB might fold JJ and below. So AK is hoping to flip with about 20bb extra in the pot from HJ and SB.

Nov. 30, 2019 | 3:51 p.m.

Last hand of the video you mentioned having 33 half the time here. How do you decide when to call small PPs vs a 3 bet? I'm trying to get a more black and white understanding like if they have a tight range, stacks are 15x the size, etc. then we call. If they only have 100bb then we fold. Also IP or OOP etc. What is your recommended guide line for calling 3 bets with small pairs?

Nov. 29, 2019 | 8:44 p.m.

Hi Henry,

Thank you for another great video. In this spot below just before the 29min mark given live ranges in 3 bet pots are a bit tighter than online 3 bets / squeezes would you be inclined to just fold AK here? To me it seems like you only have 2.2 invested and my thought process is at least one Ax or Kx is discounted by one of the other players, so if you're up against a medium to large PP you are a pretty big underdog. Is this a bad thought process, "assuming" I have outs that are already gone? I think mentally or subconsciously "running bad" with AK makes people (me) do stupid things like over fold.

I had a hand a couple weeks ago where I flatted AK vs a UTG1 open 6bb, CO calls, then SB who hasn't 3bet in the two hours I played with him squeezes to 24bb, UTG1 calls, and I decide to fold given we might have the same hand and i'm pretty sure UTG1 has a PP, so I viewed myself as a huge dog. What ended up happening was flop came down JJ5, SB cbet half pot roughly and UTG1 folded TT, SB showed AQ and took down the pot.

Other question is vs larger open sizings are you flatting AK or still 3 betting them?

Thanks for any feed back you can give or others in the comments as well. All help is welcomed.
Thank You.

Nov. 29, 2019 | 8 p.m.

$280 buyin / 72 entrants
1st $5220 + $350 Voucher
2nd $2880 + $350 Voucher
3rd $1810 + $350 Voucher
4th $1190 + $350 Voucher
5th $1190
6th $930
7th $790
8th $710

Eight players remaining, two other short stacks, one in Cutoff seems to be waiting out other short stacks trying to ladder up. One in MP about 3 hands away from BB, has about 50k.

6000/12000+12,000 bb ante.
utg1 (100K) folds
mp1 (600k) opens 36k
LJ (400k) folds
HJ (50K) folds
CO (80k) folds
BTN (100k) folds
SB (60k) folds
Hero BB (71k +12k bb + 12k ante / 95k (8bb) total to start the hand) KhJh ???

When I plug this hand into SnapShove app it gives me the following range
A2s+, A8o+
K7s+, K10o+
Q9s+, QJo+

What range are you reshoving here given you have no fold equity against this player? He is opening wide range for big sizes all the time 3-5bb. There are two other short stacks, not really worried about laddering up, trying to win, but what is the correct reshoving range. Seems like the reshove range is a bit light given zero FE.

Hand #2
Blinds 4k/8k ten handed at the time (two tables of 5 each) Top 12 paid out, so already ITM.
UTG shoves 38k (4.75bb)
Hero (119k) A9o ?
BB (49k)

I am guessing this is easy reshove spot as utg is going to be shoving a wide range here.

Sept. 7, 2019 | 10:52 p.m.

I mean the 4 bet narrrow's his range where he shouldn't have all pairs and all flush draws in his range. Similar to how Koon mentioned block betting the turn, the 1/5th sizing still applies in some 4 bet pots on Axx and Kxx boards. Flush draw is very narrow part of his range.

Sept. 3, 2019 | 9:39 p.m.

Thanks Belrio42. Really solid advice. I dropped down levels from 500nl to 300nl today and definitely no need to 3 bet any SCs or Axs hands in this game. Just looking for pure value hands as you listed above with AJs+ KQs+ TT+ basically. Vs LP i'll go a little wider for value, but just going to be all linear pretty much in this game. Mostly shallow stacks it seems, so I need to be high card and suited heavy.

Sept. 2, 2019 | 9:53 a.m.

Respect live players 3 bets and barrels despite their cbet sizing or turn sizing. They are not paying attention to the pot, but a lot of players have a very low bluff frequency. I like to use a standard 4bb+1bb sizing as my opens, then a 3.5x multipler for 3 bet sizing. Embrace multiway pots because they are unavoidable in a live setting. Throw balance out the window, once they call the flop on Q63 board they probably have Qx and are not folding, so don't need to bluff a lot of turns unless you improve to better than Qx or have KQ+ yourself, then just value bet. Can often times get 3 streets with KQ where online might only get 2 streets. Just play really face up pretty much, I won't worry about doing any type of range bets for 1/3 sizing as my cbet. 1/3 sizing as bluff works fine, then 50-66% with value and good equity hands. There is a video where Patrick Sekinger plays 50NL six max hudless where he does this with a lot of hands. Just play really face up and people often times just don't care or adjust. They are calling 7bb opens with hands like T7s, J4s, J10o and A2s etc. If they have a suited ace, suited broadway, or 77+ they are calling your 3 bet. If they 3 bet you they have AA-QQ and about 25% of the time AK. I wouldn't cbet MW unless you have value or good equity. Don't worry about betting 2/3 pot or using a polar sizing. Just bet an amount you think they will call and often times with the nuts just bet big because they think big bet means you are bluffing, so again just play your strong value range really face up for large sizings and multiple streets. It's fine to donk bet sets if the PFR is in LP and you have field callers in the middle. Trap all that dead money in the middle and if the PFR has an overpair, now he is likely to stack off because pot is so big! "Too much in the middle" as the say, "Nothing I can do." Then just be nice to people, let them have a good time, don't complain about a bad beat or do any type of coaching. Check your ego at the door, don't let them know you are good at the game. Just have fun! Don't be afraid to socialize, leave your ear phones in your bag. Also wearing a hoodie, glasses, ear phones, etc kind of hurts your EV! No one likes playing against a tag who isn't have a good time.

I've been guilty of all these things at one point in time. I speak from experience. The crushers encourage the fish to play bad by telling them nice hand or good play etc. Oh, last but not least, people are generally very honest. Don't be afraid to talk at the table, just ask them questions "You hit your flush huh?" A genuine smile usually gives it all away.

A bit of an unorganized rant, but a lot of good info in there.

Good luck at the tables!

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:52 p.m.

I think with aggro image, Can down-bet even smaller on the flop for like 1/5th sizing. The 4 bet already condensed villains range a ton, so no need to do a standard 1/3 sizing with everything. Do you think he is really folding QQ or JJ here? Hand seems ok in theory, just not sure about the cbet sizing.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:37 p.m.

Hand I played last night ($2/$5 game) Effective $500 (me) Recreational covers
Weaker some what passive recreational opened $15 in HJ,
I 3bet 9s8s in CO to $45,
BTN cold calls $45
HJ calls $30.
Flop ($140) Tx6s4x
Rec leads out $30
Hero calls $30 (gut shot + bad door flush draw)
BTN raises to $80
Rec calls ($50 more)
I call $50 more. [good or bad?!?!?!....$50 to win $330 immediately, with $375 behind after I call effective.]
Turn ($380) Tx6s4xQx
HJ leads $115
Hero ($375) calls again getting 4.3 : 1 with 8 outs, so 18% needed, but have some implied odds. Problem is I am not closing the action!!!!
BTN calls $115
River ($725) Tx6s4xQx2x
HJ leads $120
Hero ($260) folds.
Co Min raises to $240
HJ calls $120 more.

HJ shows TT for flop top set, Btn mucks (no idea what he had).

I have been watching a lot of the six max videos by Henry Lister and other pros like Patrick (psek1) & Peter Clarke, where they seem to 3 bet a lot of SCs IP both vs regs and recreationals. Is this a thing in live environment considering the open sizings are a bit bigger being 3-5bb opens? I am sure at $10/$20+ it makes a lot more sense where stacks are much deeper, being they are generally uncapped. I am not sure about live environment being 9 max, shallower stack, and ranges tend to be more value heavy when people raise and more trash when they limp. As you can see from this one example, given the BTN cold called, only have about a 3 SPR, where I am not how well SCs do in this spot.

I have the ground up series with Peter Clarke, I think 3 bets are mostly TT+ and AQ+ based on the videos I watched, but this is beginner level work. Just wondering in terms of max exploit and when someone should start 3 betting SCs? I am guessing need to be about 200bb deep in a live environment.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:29 p.m.

Hi Henry Lister in a live environment are you 3 betting your lower / middling SCs as well or flat calling / folding vs the opens?

Hand I played last night ($2/$5 game) Effective $500 (me) Recreational covers
Weaker some what passive recreational opened $15 in HJ, I 3bet 9s8s in CO to $45, BTN cold calls and HJ calls as well.
Flop ($140) Tx6s4x
Rec leads out $30
I call
BTN raises to $80
Rec calls.
I call (good or bad?!?!?!) $50 to win $330 immediately with $375 behind after I call effective.
Turn ($380) Tx6s4xQx
HJ leads $115
Hero ($375) calls again getting 4.3 : 1 with 8 outs, so 18% needed, but have some implied odds. Problem is I am not closing the action.
BTN calls.
River ($725) Tx6s4xQx2x
HJ leads $120
I fold
Co raises to $240
HJ calls.

HJ shows TT for flop top set, Btn mucks (no idea what he had).

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:18 p.m.

Thanks simonfrost681 & DNegs98 the people I talked to are on the same page. One guy said he is not 5 betting, but flatting the QQ in this spot given stack depth to keep fish in then evaluate post flop as AK shouldn't shove 3 ways.

In game H#1 BB had TT & H#2 BB had JJ... I think 90% of the time here I run into KK-AA though. Just happen to have them crushed these two times.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 1:01 a.m.

Hi Owen Shiels I just started watching your videos and I play in live tourneys and cash. There is one hand in particular I am not sure how to play it towards the end game as well.
Top 16 cash, 127 entered. Down to final 30 people.
I'll have roughly 20bb in both hands.

Hand #1
9 handed 1k/2k+2kbb ante
UTG opens 5.5k Semi tag maybe professional tourney player.
Hero (37k / 18.5bb) BTN A10o ?

Hand #2
9 handed 1k/2k+2kbb ante
A10o UTG (37k / 18.5bb) ?

Overall A10o just seems to be a problematic hand. I am not sure if I am over folding preflop but just folding in EP first 2-3 spots in the 15-20bb range. At 13bb or so I am just shoving all in. I am mostly a cash game player and A10o just becomes a fold vs EP raise. Not sure about tourneys.

Hand #3
9 handed,(1200/2400+2400bb ante)
28 people left / 16 cash.
UTG & utg1 folds.
Mp1 (75k) opens 6k
Hero BTN (32,600 /13.5) with 66 ?

The snap shove app I use has 13.5 bb reshove range as [77+, AJ+, A10s+, KQs]

At 13bb the reshove range is [66+, A8s+, A10o+, K10s, KQ+, Q10s+, J10s+]

is the half BB really that big of a difference in FE? Seems like the range drastically increases from 13% to 8%.

Any feed back on these three spots is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Aug. 31, 2019 | 10:32 p.m.

*Hand #1*
[TAG] CO ($800) opens $20
[TAG] BTN ($1K) JJ 3bet to $65
BB - 4 bet to $155 ($300 or so behind)

older Asian guy a bit unorthdox as i've seen him cold call 3 bets in the past with 88-JJ range and some AJs and AQo hands. Not sure what to make of his style, seems loose passive, but also spazzes postflop with top pair.

Co folds
Hero ?

*Hand #2*
BB is a bit nitty as i've seen him limp call from EP with AJs AQo hands and limps other hands as well Scs, 22-99 etc. His 3 bet range is usually JJ+ AKs with AKo being a mix.

HJ is unknown, but over the 1 orbit we played together, I raised AKs $20, he calls 88. SB 3bet to $65, I 4bet AKs to $240, and he shoves 88 in for $300, so a bit of a fishy player. Another hand he opens $15, gets 3 bet to $50, and shoves for $600 with JJ. Small sample, but seems over aggressive with most PP 88+.

3 folds
Hero ($1300) LJ QQ opens $20
HJ ($450) fish 3bets to $105
BB (2k) nitty 4 bets to $210
Hero QQ?

My thinking was, BB did a min 4bet to make sure action stays open incase I call and fish ships, then he'll have option to reship. In game I elected to fold in this spot, I am not sure what the correct play is long run at this stack depth or even at $500 stack depth (100bb) What are you doing with QQ?

Aug. 31, 2019 | 10:17 p.m.

Patrick Sekinger

20:22 mark you fold 99 HJ vs LJ 3bb open. LJ appears to be recreational given stack size. I am a little confused why you are folding in this spot.

Aug. 29, 2019 | 12:18 a.m.

Hi Patrick Sekinger

15:50 you fold A8s on the button. can you talk about your calling / 3 betting range in this spot? I thought maybe you fold because BB is short. I thought you might call because stacks are a little deeper. It's a spot I am usually calling in live games.

Aug. 29, 2019 | 12:12 a.m.

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