I would work out the details of what that actually means. What stakes do you play? What is your win rate? How many hours do you need to play to achieve that?
Jan. 4, 2019 | 10:38 p.m.
Does this person bluff? Do I have better hands to call with in this spot? Some times you can be at the very top of your range, but the person never ever bluffs, so your literally over folding as an exploit. You make money because they will not over fold, but call too wide.
To be one of the best live pros, gotta learn how to navigate multiway pots. Some times the correct strategy is to play reall tight, but even fish will not give you action when you get AA if you folded everything for the last hour. The best live plays generally play really tight, but are very fun to be around socially, so fish give them action.
Jan. 3, 2019 | 2:01 a.m.
Without a doubt most online players will find live play very comical. Its all about value though and not much bluffing. Getting someone to fold top pair in a live game is LOL. Just makes the person bluffing the donkey for not knowing.
Anyways what ended up happening? What did villain showdown?
Jan. 3, 2019 | 1:53 a.m.
Where do you play? Do not look to only punish yourself but reward yourself for sticking with your goals. Write down some of these goals in detail on here, let the forum help you.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:54 p.m.
AQ blocks some stong holdings villain can have and A5s hands have less sdv. I agree with what you wrote. The 1\3 cbet size is not the answer to all poker problems and is grossly over used. Just a board you want some additional bd equity besides sd.
I think this is a board where you can use half pot and a smaller portion of your range and mix in some turn over bets with gut shots, back door diamonds, to go with your sets & over pairs. I don't have pio, but based on what I have learned, this is likely better approach on these middling boards.
In the future, I would not title your post basically giving away the result and getting bias opinions.
For what it is worth, line is not horrible, will put AJs and QQ in a tough spot.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:46 p.m.
That is pretty epic, but really depends on range you assigned right? Is J7o standard BB defend bvb for 3bb? Wish I could see pio screen shot. I can't find a fold here, not in a live game anyways.
Thin value (26)
J9 (6), J10 (8), QJs (3), T9 (9),
77 (3), 88 (3), J8 (6), J7 (6), AJ (6)
Odds 264.46 \ $135.54 almost 2:1.
I feel it is one of those spots where your right less than half the time, but have to call with the odds.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:32 p.m.
I am going to guess it is better to 3 bet if it is likely to get HU or get folds. If it is likely to go 3-4 ways, then lower variance route is just to call. A lot of live players will be sticky preflop because it's suited and more fit or fold postflop. Large raise preflop, with a bunch of smaller bets postflop.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:18 p.m.
I think AJ AT same as A4 & A5 because they both block nut sd and wheel sd.so hands liike A7-A9 which unblock the bluffs are better.
PIO video on board changing cards discussed this.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 9:39 p.m.
Assuming population tendency for live loose recreational games and 100bb ($500) stacks.
1) Hero opens ep $20, mp 3bet $60, what is hero's calling range / 4 bet range?
2) hero opens $20 HJ, SB 3bet $60, what is hero's calling \ 4 bet range?
3) villain opens utg $20, hero is in MP, what is hero's calling range \ 3 bet range?
4) villain opens HJ $20, hero on the btn, what is hero's calling \ 3bet range?
Jan. 2, 2019 | 5:49 p.m.
Some of the major differences in live play vs online play are:
1) open raise size (2.5bb vs 4bb)
2) 3 bet size (12-20bb)
3) wider ranges (J7s, A7o, KTo, from ep\mp)
4) tighter 3 bet ranges (QQ+, AKs)
5) multiway pots (3-6 ways)
6) higher rake \ drop ($3 vs $6)
#1 because of the higher drop ($6) in live play, ranges should be tighter on average. However, because of the loose play by recs, we should try and be involved in more pots with them. How much wider would you construct your preflop calling and 3 betting range given the loose play? Online you see 22-66 constantly folded, are these now calls in live play? I was working out a pretty face up strategy, where I am min raising weaker hands and 4 bb other parts of my range, since rec 3bet range doesn't really change. Would this make small pairs and SCs profitable from ep\mp or should I stick go a tighter snowie based range?
#2 I think a linear range is best, I am not sure if I should use a smaller sizing and how wide I should go. Like KJs is more profitable than 87s despite the domination factor. Given 100bb stacks, with standard open being 4bb, should I keep my 3 bet size under 12bb? I do think recs calling range when you 3x their open is pretty wide, going to $70-$80 start to get more folds. Not sure if we want these folds given will have position, iniaitive, and range advantage.
#3 given the MW flops and the wide limp call ranges, what is the weakest hand you would iso against 1,2,3, etc limpers? Should we be over limping our smaller SCs and small PP?
#4 given a $20 open, $60 3bet size, with $500 effective stacks, what is a good guideline for a calling range oop and ip? Should we ever have a 4 bet bluffing range? Also hands like JJ QQ can we use them as 4 bet folds if they only 5 bet KK+? Debating between 4 bet fold for the times they fold JJ AKo themselves or is calling the extra $40 and evaluating flop more beneficial?
#5 if you know you are likely to get 3-4 callers when you open $20 (4bb), which range would you use? Also would you increase your sizing to try and get heads up with your stronger hands, despite being more face up?
#6 with the drop where I play being $6 if it goes to the flop, is it better to keep a larger 4bb+ open size? Not sure if min raising btn with a wide range to give myself a better price, makes up for higher drop?
I know every scenario and situation are different, looking for some guidelines for this new year.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 3:59 p.m.
Where I play, if I min open btn, sb $3 folds, btn calls $5 more, the pot is $17+$6 drop. Ill check out your rake video. Essentially I am risking $10 to win $7. Not including $1 tip for dealer.
I like min raising because rec players do not seem to adjust their 3 bet ranges too much, so I can call 3 bets wider because they are raising to $40 instead of usual $60-$80 with qq+. This I feel is one of my leaks, calling 3 bets with hands like 77-qq & suited broadways. Essentially on a $20 open and $60 3bet, how big of a leak is this?
I do not want to get too off topic from your video. There are spots where you open a small pair, but will call a 3bet and float the flop really wide. Why are you willing to call 3 bet, but not willing to call 2bets with hands like 22-66 given different formations? Is it just the fact that someone will likely squeeze? If they are not likely to squeeze would you call more pairs?
I am going to post im midstakes some questions I have regarding certain online strategy vs live play. I tried to implement as much as possible and i am not if im leaving money on the table or leaking money.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 3:16 p.m.
For high drop games $6, would you advocate opening larger $20? Also are hands like 54s-98s worth playing if most flops are 3-5 ways for $20+ each. SPR always seems to be around 4-5 givien 100bb stacks. I feel like tight strategy is best, but then I end up having nitty image playing around 15% of hands from ep\mp. Also very tight cold call range.
Would you make doing a live series? Maybe a video on some adjustments you would make?
Jan. 2, 2019 | 12:20 a.m.
Hand #1 @0.30 you talk about 77 being bottom of your flat call range. Does this apply to live full ring games as well or should I be playing all pairs with avg stacks being $300-$700, nearly all rec players, so very tight 3bet and squeeze ranges.
Jan. 1, 2019 | 6:10 p.m.
Thank you Sungar78 We are on the same train of thoughts. I recently purchased both of Janda's books and The Mental Game part 1. I haven't finished TMGOP yet, but I did glance into Janda's books and seems like he is polarizing his ranges.
What are your thoughts on using polarized ranges for live games? Seems like he is 3 betting a lot of KK+ AK+ T9s-76s type hands and even with cold 4 bets using similar ranges. Some people have zero 4 bet range even with AK, KK, AA and just flat call all my 3 bets. Show up with some random hands some times like 63s or J9o that surprises me. Against these wide 3 bet calling ranges what would you recommend?
I was debating if we used polarized sizing say $20 (4bb) to $70 (14bb) as our 3 bet sizing, should we be doing this with linear range? Before I was combining Linear and polarized ranges, but with basically PSB as my 3bet. I started just 3 betting TT+ & AQ+ as my basic value range with AQ and TT being a mix. Then mix in some KJs and KQs when 3 betting to iso the fish, which I would mix smaller 3 bet sizing with to save some room for post flop.
Dec. 29, 2018 | 2:43 p.m.
As others have said I am splitting my range here. Betting AA Kk without a fd blocker and checking the ones with front door blocker. QQ JJ TT mandatory bets 5 ways. As played on the flop. The turn is a. Good card for you as less combos of sets and with $700 effective on the turn, as played you can check raise turn for thin value..
Dec. 28, 2018 | 9:50 a.m.
Looking for some videos on calling ranges for full ring. I play in a 3 blind structure game in California BTN $2, SB $3, & BB $5. Standard open is $20, with some people doing $15 and some $25. Used to be more people doing $25, but as the games get more modern, smaller sizing is being used.
It is a $500 max buy-in (100bb) but most pots are going 3-5 ways. 3 bets are generally pretty tight JJ+, not many recs 3 betting AK. 3 bet szing is usually $60-$100 (12-20bb).
Are playing small pairs 22-55 profitable in these games from EP? Working on some tight range construction dropping the lower SCs and Axs from my EP range.
Watched some of Serge Pouliot videos. I am surprised the learning paths do not have a video on calling ranges facing an open as this is generally the biggest leak people have.
Also recently picked up the Mental Game p1 and both of Janda's books. Are his preflop guidines still reliable? I beleive Peter Clark said polarized is old school and more people are using linear and mixed strategy for 3 bets.
Thanks in Advance
Dec. 27, 2018 | 11:47 a.m.
Hi henry, Great video as always! Really hoping to see you making some 500NL zoom in the future.
Time stamp 35:00 with AsKh hand on 6s7sQs4c5d board you took a bet flop, call xr, call turn, jam 2.13x pot (80.68 effective into 37.78 pot) and stated this hand as well as As9x, AsTx, & AsJx you would also make this play. This gives you 12 combos (3ea) of bluffs. Are you slow playing only AsXs or other flushes as well with this line? A2s-AKs gives you nine nut flush combos.
With the 2x overbet on the river, what value to bluff ratio should hero be using?
I don't have time stamp, but reg opens HJ 3bb, btn 3bet 8.5bb, hero BB 4bet 25bb with JJ and you stated it's bottom of your range against Jazzman337 who is loose aggro. Are you looking to 4bet fold at 125bb effective? What about AKo and AKs?
Dec. 25, 2018 | 12:40 p.m.
What do you think about $100 turn bet? Should hero use different sizing? Also what do think about checking the turn? Range advantge to utg+1 right?
Given other two people in the pot if villain holds QQ or JJ would he pot it to force them out of the hand? Potting the nuts doesn't make sense to me. Still easy to raise small and get money in on the river.
Dec. 20, 2018 | 9:16 p.m.
9 handed PLO $1\$2 with $5 open. Btn straddle $10.
BB Hero ($2500) AcQhTd3c call $10,
Utg+1 ($700) $40
Co ($550) call $40
Btn ($550) call $40
Flop ($160) ThTsJc
Turn ($160) ThTsJcQd
Hero ($2460) bet $100
Utg+1 ($660) pot $460
Villain: OMC old nitty man. Usually pots it with the stones.
Dec. 20, 2018 | 10 a.m.
I should add jn a few more details for a better discussion..
1) everyone puts in 4bb preflop. There is no action preflop..In a $2\$5 game everyone puts in $20, so 9 handed game makes the pot $180 with about $480 effective stacks in a 100bb game. Creating a 2.6 SPR pot.
2) ranges are 100% from AA to 72o. Postflop is just like UTG raised $20 preflop and 8 people called. For strong players we have a huge advantage postflop as people will over play their TP and over pair hands.
Example on J72 live rec players will not fold KJ, AJ, and QQ+.
On crush live call ins Bart talks about on J44 board there is a 47% chance 1 of the 9 players has trips or better. Say hero is in BB with QQ. Flop ($180) J44r. Sb leads $120 into $180..you would flat call some over pairs QQ+ and evaluate turns. If we know even over pairs are flipping at best gives us a huge edge in our ability to fold strong hands postflop..
A video on Bomb pots would really help as even on a board like J86dd. If you hold 86 for bottom 2 pair when faced with aggression it may be a fold despite blocking bottom sets.
Also note bomb pots are only on dealer changes and not mandatory for everyone to play them, in fact if someone objects, usually we cant play them. Similar to a straddle, bomb pots create a lot of action on a tight table..
Im looking for a video that will discuss:
-bet sizing postflop with different parts of our ranges, over bets, down bets, check raises etc..which hands are best to check call or even check call with.
Dec. 11, 2018 | 11:05 p.m.
Is river ever a fold against that 77% sizing? Not sure villain does this sizing with A10, AQ hands. Seems like better 2 pairs and maybe some bluffs, but a check back bet turn and river does not have many bluffs on this texture.
Dec. 8, 2018 | 11:18 p.m.
If villain is 3betting IP and oop 99+ A10+, I would have a mixed 4bet strategy. If it is likely to go MW, 4bet JJ+ AKs.
If you are likely to go HU then you can call the 3bet with 99-JJ, AA, AKs. Then 4bet some QQ, KK, AKo.
If villain does not fold to 4bet I would use linear range but only top 5% or so of hands. Keep some of your low end hands in your calling range as well as some strong hands in your calling range..then the more vulnerable hands. kK QQ AKo just 4bet them using larger sizing.. You .make it 75, he 3bet 250, bump it up to $900 instead of 700..if he is inelastic with his calling range, charge more!