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@Dekkers. 18:50 mark you choose to fold here. No explanation given. I see player has 1.7 3 bet over small sample, with the dead money, would you consider 4 bet vs someone who 3bets a bit more, also what size would you 4 bet to?

April 2, 2020 | 5:44 p.m.

Correct, only about 13%. If you look at snowies range for SB vs btn open, LJ range will be similar imo.

April 2, 2020 | 4:28 p.m.

teunuss 15:53 mark.
Co open. Sb flat. Cbet flop, face XR, fold to turn over bet. Is this an exploitative fold or standard? Earlier in video you called 3 bet J9s vs SB..called.flop and turn and check back river on QhJh5x8c8d board. Where you stated pair + gutter easy turn call. Sorry no time stamp. Feels like AQ no club should be a call. Feels like your giving up too soon vs A6s, A10o/s, 66, TT range. Thats only like 12 value combos. Do you think SB ever flats to keep BB in? A spot I call down a lot in lower stakes.

April 2, 2020 | 3:59 p.m.

teunuss who did you receive coaching from? Great job on the improvements! Noticable difference from your videos last year. Also respect the fast replies you leave in the comment section. Some coaches seem to never respond.

April 2, 2020 | 3:34 p.m.

I wonder if anyone else would like to check their data base for Axs region A7s-A2s to see if they are showing profit or if we should tighten up from LJ range. Had a friend losing K9s as well, so I removed it from my LJ range, but I know snowie has it as an open and six max bot pluribus has as wide as K6s. Not sure if its a skill edge that makes them profitable, so beginner and intermediate players should fold them and more advanced players can show a profit with them?

April 2, 2020 | 5:41 a.m.

I had another chart that was near identical to your numbers, but when I was grinding 20/40c I found they just were not folding anything, so I tightened up quite a bit. Also my friend has a large data base and doesn't have K9s as profitable from LJ at the micros 20NL. That is the main reason I dropped K9s, Q9s, and J9s from my LJ range. The A10o and KJo I know snowie is opening it, but I am still not sure it's profitable from LJ. Seems very marginal to me. Just focusing on LJ what are your thoughts? I'm playing between 40NL - 100NL.

April 2, 2020 | 5:37 a.m.

Post | RunItTw1ce posted in NLHE: Six max Micros RFI chart

I think this is a very solid foundation for micro / low stakes.

If anyone wants to check their data base on hands that are losing given the position for +/- profit it would be appreciated.

March 31, 2020 | 8:27 a.m.

I don't use pio, just watch videos on here and try my best to apply. Just seems like a 3 bet pot and a XR on a Axx board is very under bluffed, so rather just bet myself, then scare the villain(s) even more than they already are.

March 31, 2020 | 8:23 a.m.

"reason i check rasin was to get value from AQ it was a 4bet pot"

3bet pot or 4 bet pot? Can size bigger preflop. I would just start out with a small bet on the flop and barrel through. I don't think AQ is supposed to continue MW vs a XR in a 3 bet pot. What are your bluffs? KcQc? Seems like a very narrow bluffing range here.

March 31, 2020 | 3:56 a.m.

I think you can block bet turn and river. On Saulo's recent video I saw him block bet JT on a T98XJ run out. So I'm assuming sets fall into this category as well. Can target some QJs type hands or lower sets. I'm guessing you just block bet your AK holdings as well, but not sure you use a 60% sizing on the flop with AK here.

March 31, 2020 | 3:52 a.m.

sauloCosta10

31:20 mark you decide to 3 bet 54s co vs btn. Do you think just calling raises is better at low stakes or should hero still be 3 betting these hands? I'm battling with equity denial vs equity realization. Given 100bb stacks. I feel like there are more implied odds at lower stakes whenever you do hit a hand. Just not sure if it's profitable. I was thinking flatting and going 3-4ways, given low 3 bet / squeeze % at my stakes is best and just use position post flop in a higher SPR pot.

March 31, 2020 | 3:40 a.m.

Hi sauloCosta10 ,

Thank you for another great video. 27min mark for the below hand, you face a PSB donk bet on flop and turn, then face a check on the river. I am playing micro / low stakes around 40NL vs mostly recreational. This is a spot I get into a lot! These recs seem to donk bet pot pretty often as they are just clicking buttons with their top pair hands. I was trying to have a raising range vs them, but hasn't worked out well. For example your hand on the turn being I block some J8s and KJ hands, I would turn it into a bluff trying to get a hand like J10, QJ, or maybe a better flush draw such as K8s / A2s to fold.

My question is should hero be raising the turn here at all or just trying to realize equity and give up being you "block his check folds?"

2nd question. Do you think it's fine to mix up your sizings preflop and post flop? Looking back at some Pluribus (six max bot) hands, where the sizings are mixed in every position from 2bb-3.5bb. What are your thoughts on doing this for micro / low stakes? I play on a poker app, where there are no huds. Before I tried always opening same size 2.5x or always 3x then a mix of 3bb all spots and 2.5bb on btn. Tried to be consistent with my bet size, but was breaking even with my ranges, where I tried to balance some bluffs / value. After talking to a friend, he convinced me it doesn't really matter at 40NL because players are not really paying attention. I should be bluffing way less and value betting way more. Just forget about balance. Just focus on playing the player and not really the preset ranges. Any thoughts on this? Sorry if it's a bit unorganized. Appreciate any feed back you have.

March 31, 2020 | 3:33 a.m.

15;00 Can you explain why it’s not a thing in theory ? Playing that deep (and even 100bb). Ev call Axs > ev 4b . That why we using offsuit hands. At least BTN vs SB, maybe BtN vs bb differs.
A3o/A4o are mixed for me. Patrick can also definitely exploit people tendencies who are not 5b enough at these stack depth, even if 5b ranges have to be quite narrow.
What do you think monker is 4b bluffing here 100 deep ?

I think this Spot was in patrick's last video as well. I remember him saying Saulo knows more theory then he does and it's probably not a thing. Glad to see commentary on both ends. Wish they made more commentary with all hands revealed and can hear all the coaches thoughts.

March 31, 2020 | 3:22 a.m.

Also this one from 888 poker.

Im playing 20\40c, so looking for some type of hybrid. I think my biggest leak is postflop being im bluffing too much or hero calling too much. Ill have to start posting hands.

March 30, 2020 | 11:46 p.m.

For this one I took all the hands that generate EV from Pluribus and Snowie combined. We have the wide range of suited hands that Pluribus prefers and a few more off suite hands that snowie prefers. I think this is pretty solid! I still don't know how I feel about K7s and K8s from LJ. Seems to bug me for whatever reason, but i'll give it a try.

March 30, 2020 | 1:10 p.m.

I would like to point out, one of the biggest differences in the charts is the KX region.

Pluribus
LJ: K7s+ / KQo *(I think KJo was like 55%)
HJ: K5s+ / KJo+

Snowie
LJ: K9s+ / KJo
HJ: K9s+ / KTo

RIO
LJ: K9s+ / KJo
HJ: K7s+ / KTo+

Pluribus seems to go very wide with high suited cards compared to off suite cards. I am not sure if this was based on 100bb poker or not or just the fact it was min raising mostly. Seems to trade 6 combos of off suite hands such as KJo for K8s & K7s. I wanna say KJo would play better in my games, but I am not 100% sure.

March 30, 2020 | 9:59 a.m.

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to get some feed back on the three charts below. They are taken from Pluribus six max bot, Snowie Preflop Advisor, and from the coaches I watch on here at runitonce. I tried taking a mixture of what I learned from Henry Lister, Patrick Sekinger, Saulo Ribeiro, Patrick Cronin, & Gary Chappell. For Pluribus, I tried taking hands that were opened at near 100% frequency from each position. I would note Pluribus seems to have the widest range, but also opens mostly 2.0 to 2.25bb. Where Snowie Preflop Advisor is mostly opening 3x. Then of course runitonce ranges are a lot of 2.5x sizings.

Given these three charts below, I am trying to make a guideline for the app I play on, but I am playing micro stakes with 5% rake up to 3bb. There are no huds, but it's not anonymous either. You can still take notes on players or tag them certain colors. Also players are allowed to change their screen names for just a few dollars, so notes and tagging players can only take you so far. Trying to develop a really solid RFI range for six max. Any suggestions, feed back, criticism, etc are much appreciated.

For my bet size I am mostly opening 3x and some 2.5x. I feel like the biggest leak the pool has is calling too much and not 3 betting enough. I think this favors the larger 3x sizing in general. Also in the past there was a debate on 2.5bb vs 3bb for button sizing being the best. The 2.5bb makes it easier to call 3 bets vs the blinds as well as give yourself a good price when stealing the blinds, where the 3bb sizing gains more value IP as blinds will make more calling mistakes and play more fit & fold postflop. Any feed back on this is appreciated as well. I'm leaning towards 3bb open from all positions.

Lastly, a lot of the players are roughly 100bb effective. The min / max buy-in per stake usually ranges 20bb-200bb. I am just buying in 100bb at a time. I feel when I bought in 200bb I was getting less action.

Thank you in advance for any feed back! Charts should be in order of Pluribus-Snowie-RIO

Decided to add one last range, a bit of a "lag range" to see what you guys think. There is a "theory" that opening some hands that are possibly -ev due to bet sizing, position, stack size etc, but these -ev hands help create a loose image and gets you paid off more with your stronger hands. Any thoughts on this range below? I feel this range is closer to how a lot of live players play, but they tend to do a lot of limping. Will this below range be effective at low stakes on these apps that are blowing up? Of course we are not doing any limping. Mostly 2.5bb-3bb opens. Are any of these hands a massive leak?

March 30, 2020 | 9:48 a.m.

Starting to play on an app where rake is 5% up to 3bb? Someone told me 6bb, but haven't really looked at it while i'm playing. Anyways I think vs some of these players in the SB vs a raise I should just be folding A9s-A2s. Stick to pure value almost with like A10s+. If there main issue is calling too much, just gotta keep value betting and bluffing less. Anyways thanks for the response. Some of these apps are incredibly soft.

March 30, 2020 | 7:33 a.m.

Comment | RunItTw1ce commented on Range Charts

How valid are these charts today? They seem incredibly tight! like 22-44 just folds from CO? other hands like Q9s J9s just folds in HJ?

March 30, 2020 | 7:29 a.m.

Hi Patrick Cronin

In this hand you talk about how you dont 3bet A3s vs recs because they call too wide. How are you playing your other Axs hands from other positions? Im playing micros on an app for six max but pots are constantly going 4 ways. I feel like im losing money with A7s, A6s, & A2s. Would you advise just folding these hands? Would you create a limping range? Rake is 5% up to like 6bb I believe. I've been using snowie ranges, but feel LJ needs to be even tighter and maybe increase bet size to 3.5x open. Ive been using 3x mostly. Any advice for weaker parts of my range are much appreciated!

March 26, 2020 | 9:54 p.m.

All the videos, snowie, articles, etc has A2s+ from LJ. Video by Tyler yesterday mentioned A2s from LJ is profitable on some tables and -EV on other tables. Im playing on a poker app so dont have any data to know which hands are showing profit per position. I feel A7s,A6s, & A2s are folds from LJ\HJ, but at the same time feels too nitty folding them.

My table dynamics will have about 2 people 50bb or less, most or all are very recreational. Maybe the lack of fold equity is decreasing the profitability of these hands?

Was thinking of [A8s+, A5s-A3s] for Axs range for LJ\HJ.

Thoughts?

March 26, 2020 | 7:36 p.m.

Also on the turn you mention you unblock clubs. I thought it was best to have AcKx or AxKc blocking their potential calling range on the turn. Can you please explain this as well?

March 22, 2020 | 7:56 p.m.

Gary Chappell 27:11 mark left hand table.
Hj open $12.50
SB call
Hero bb squeeze $70
Hj call. Sb fold

Postflop you go with a 1\3 sizing on flop Q92. Then turn I think you went with a 2\3 sizing saying it will be a triple barrel. Can you explain how you decide to triple barrel and what do you expect villain to fold? Are you using AK just to balance your QQ-AA (15) combos?

March 22, 2020 | 7:45 p.m.

What is typical 4bet % in terms of combos or % of hands? Also typical 4 bet % in general? If opponent 3 bets roughly 15% of hands, hero should 4 bet how often? Guessing around 8% of hands?

I was watching sauce123 he had btn vs bb where he had AK on the btn. He used more off suite hands to 4 bet with preflop. Range was something like AJo+, KQo, JJ+, AKs, K9s, KTs, Q9s, J9s then wheel aces A5s-A2s.

So my understanding would be btn vs co the btn will 3bet a lot of suited hands, but btn vs blinds, the btn will 4bet a lot of off suite hands?

Also for anonymous tables like zone, would you suggest having a wide 4 bet range btn vs blinds?

March 22, 2020 | 12:35 a.m.

Great content as always. I feel the stats block a lot of showdowns and bet sizes though.

March 21, 2020 | 11:49 p.m.

Excellent video! Glad to see coaches who enjoy the game and are not too monotone in their videos. Passion and excitement came through in this one. Helps when your reads are correct!

March 20, 2020 | 10:38 p.m.

Blockquote if this is a spot that this specific player is bluffing i cant tell for sure 100% since i also didnt play zoom lately a lot anymore.
Blockquote

Which games do you play these days?

March 19, 2020 | 11:37 p.m.

ERA7ER

Couple things to point out
1) you seem to be annoyed in every hand you face aggression where you don't have the nuts.
2) in Patrick's first elite video there was a discussion on transparency for elite members to be playing 80% of their volume at the stakes for the videos they make. In the comment above, you said you barely play zoom any more. I think in all fairness to the customer, you should make videos on the games you are playing.
3) if you check your entire range on the turn after betting only 26% pot, which hands are you calling off with besides AQ and AA? Are you calling KJs? tT? I would think QJs has great blockers and villain can easily turn a hand like AJs into a bluff given your weak line. I can see a fold if you dont underrep your hand. By checking range, in villains eyes you might be capped at a hand like AK.

March 19, 2020 | 11:33 p.m.

Post | RunItTw1ce posted in NLHE: 4 bet range btn vs sb 3bet

I pulled this off Fransisco charts. Also snowie preflop advisor. What is the modern 4 bet range in this spot? Assuming 100bb stacks, btn opens 2.5bb and sb 3bets to 12bb, which hands are you 4 betting and to which size? I assume its a polar strategy with Ax and Kx blockers. The ranges snowie and Fransisco show, seem a bit tight. Why not 3 bet more K7s, KTo, Axs, maybe some 65s?

Any advice would be appreciated! Thank you in advance!

March 19, 2020 | 9:50 p.m.

Patrick Sekinger

Love the content! Can you show the HH in replayer format next time instead of basic HH?? Maybe street by street, so there is no spoiler!

Also Im a little confused on the first hand, from the villains perspective does he \ she want to have a club(s) in their hand when choosing a large cbet size? Blocking your calling range? Then on the turn villain doesn't want to have a club to make it more likely you are drawing and not actually show down heavy?

One last bit that stood out to me as a live player, you mentioned in the first hand, being a two tone flop, you can bet your AcTc hands, but on the turn the nfd prefers to check because you dont wanna face a jam with just a draw. Would you apply this to live games as well? Bet flop with nfd, check the turn in hopes that it goes check check. If villain bets, you prefer check raise all in or check call? If you decide check call are you leading river clubs?

Thanks for any feed back. Hopefully that makes sense.

March 19, 2020 | 8:41 p.m.

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