RunItTw1ce
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25min when you talk about villain's snap turn barrel 3BP BvB. I question it differently. The snap bet seems a bit pre loaded being more bluff heavy. With value you usually want to think about your sizing. The other part is hero tank X the turn. When SB is tanking I am already planning what bet size I am going to use on the turn. I don't find it necessary to tank after OOP already tanked. Which would make the turn barrel a little less preloaded.
One of the most annoying spots to me in live poker is when its a MW pot and someone shoves all in on the turn or river. First guy tanks 2-3 minutes and eventually folds. Then the guy behind him when its on him now he tanks 90 seconds before making his decision. You should be thinking about what you are going to do when the first guy is thinking. Its like fish don't have the ability to think when its not on them and they want the camera time. I would really love the speed up the pace of live poker. People need to be held more as babies because they need a lot of fucking attention. Really annoying!
Nov. 28, 2024 | 12:40 a.m.
Gary Chappell It was an old video before Luke started playing high stakes. It was a spot where you 3bet + folded QQ to a cold 4bet / 5bet. Where he didn't think it was a thing.
edit* I tried to go back and through the comments I left on his old videos from 3+ years ago, but I couldn't find the spot. Maybe it was a comment he left on one of your videos? Anyways not a big deal.
Nov. 26, 2024 | 2:34 a.m.
The most consistent coaches on this site for play & explain are Gary Chappell and Elusivemark. Very underrated coaches that grind consistently and have strong fundamentals. Even Luke Johnson has learned a thing or two from Gary's videos. I would be sad if Gary doesn't get an extension.
Nov. 24, 2024 | 8:35 p.m.
Nice to see you putting in a lot of volume. Almost a million hands for the year! How does this compare to the goals you set out to achieve beginning of the year? Is the WR pre or post rake back? I'm guessing the jack pot you hit is not included?
Nov. 23, 2024 | 11:10 p.m.
Please do a part 3! Are there any speed review videos or streamed double board bomb pot tables that I can watch with a player recommendation to focus on how they play?
On CLP I'm a few videos into it but Bart is saying if you have a hand in MP 77xx (naked) on QT4dd and T72r. EP bets $75 into $200. Bart was saying maybe its a call but he would just fold middle set with nothing on the other board on the flop.
Would love to hear more about these thresholds for continuing facing a bet. Sometimes I'll just have a hand like AT98 for top pair + OE and then 2nd pair + GS on the other board and I'll call a flop bet. I honestly don't know how bad this is. Do we need a hand like Q4T2 for 2 pair both boards? Do we need XdXd9x8x FD + OESD? Learning the thresholds on the flop would be a huge help.
In your 2nd hand on the 663r and 963hh where hero had 7432hh. You talked about should hero bluff when checked to him on the button. Which looked like based on the equity it is pretty close, needing 20% equity, but then running into 6x 2/3 of the time. What if hero faces bet of half pot? Can hero continue with low FD + GS and blocker to 33? I have a lot of noobie questions. There doesn't appear to be a lot of content for these DBPLOBP hands.
Nov. 23, 2024 | 2:17 a.m.
First example AK6ss and A62r is exactly what I needed to see in terms of equity. It may be simple to experienced PLO players, but for NL players like myself I have no idea how much equity we have in this spot with 2 pair on both boards. This is the exact situation I've been struggling with the last couple of months. I'm constantly peeling a card to see if I make a boat and then folding the turn or river. I expect 75% of my player pool to stack off in this spot with A765.
Its very common for my player pool to have naked 2244 type of hand or even AQ92 for top pair on one board and 2 pair on the other board and stack off. I am not quite sure how to adjust in this pool when the players are so spewy.
A hand a couple nights ago hero has JdTh4c4s.
B1: 987r
B2: K98r.
I bet $20 into $30, got 3 callers HJ, BTN, & BB.
B1: 9876ss
B2: K986ss
BB donks $50. I decided to "pull" with nuts on B1 and oesd B2. But no real redraw if someone has the same hand (JT).
HJ calls $50
BTN pots $360 with another $150 behind effective.
BB gets out of the way.
Hero tanks 2-3 minutes and then folds.
Most of the advice I have gotten in this spot was not to bet the flop and the turn is an easy fold. I am not sure what the bottom of the stack off range is here. I am thinking I need like JT + 2 pair on the other board as the bottom of stack off range or fd etc.
HJ stacks off $300ish. With As3s8x6x. BTN only has TT95ss. Turned straight + FD on both boards. But only Ten high fd.
9876-7
K98-6-K
When the pool is this spewy how do we adjust?
Nov. 23, 2024 | 1:23 a.m.
How does not seeing cards at showdown help the integrity of the game? Wasn't there a big collusion ring of squeezing people out of the pot with ridiculous hands? Doesn't this just benefit the cheaters? Now we don't know if they are working with someone else or if they just had a big hand and made a big fold or not.
Nov. 19, 2024 | 3:29 a.m.
13:30 is just stupid. Playing a 0.1bb bomb pot!?!?! This site seems like crap! At least do a 1bb bomb pot. I can't understand making the pot smaller than the blinds. Really expect everyone to go nuts playing for a SB?
Nov. 19, 2024 | 3:19 a.m.
10min Hero SB vs LJ SRP OOP PFC on T99cc. You mentioned only AT+ is raising, so we want to use a bigger XR size being polar to 9x. I also think of this spot as high bluff allowance (HBA). Where we have plenty of bluffs to choose from that require more FE, so we use a larger size to increase our FE. Smaller XR size just requires us to expand our value region to more TX hands to balance out the value : bluff ratio.
Nov. 19, 2024 | 3:05 a.m.
8:30 I was trying to figure out if there are certain suits that are better to delay cbet this turn. SCs do not want spades unblocking AXs hands. Off suit hand like JTo I'm not seeing any betting, but QJo does have some betting. Maybe because ATo pure folds preflop? But QsJx seems to be preferred here. How are you choosing your off suit hands postflop when betting 2/3 or X on this turn?
Nov. 19, 2024 | 2:26 a.m.
5min I like the heuristic of turning Ax into bluffs on the turn vs EP raiser on this K84-2 board. Tighter formations require more SDV bluffs.
5:40 preflop BvB on wizard I see 55 checking option at 40% on wizard. What sim are you looking at for 55 to be a pure iso? What Iso range would you use if EP-BTN open limped and you were OOP?
Nov. 19, 2024 | 2:15 a.m.
If you are more capped on flop and turn then you need a texture changing river card to bluff.
After grinding a million hands online during covid until mid November or so 2022. It took me a really long time to accept or learn this concept. I still see people over bluffing all the time because they have low SDV. Having a texture changing card is so important. It just makes me laugh when I see someone barreling off a missed draw on a brick river. "I used to do that" I thought to myself.
In live poker, I forgot what video it was, but talks about how live players don't think in ranges very often. Referring to recs at least. They just try and bluff high cards pretty often. If you see a rec take a XC-XC-Donk line when there is a missed flush draw on the board like 962cc-3x-Qx It's mostly just some missed draw.
Nov. 18, 2024 | 2:06 a.m.
wizard link really fascinating actually. If we check and IP jams, which villain's hand is jamming high frequency. 55 for hero is made indifferent, JT mostly folding. We just call mostly 88, TT, Q9, AQ, flush, etc.
Where if we donk jam the river now IP has to start folding JJ, TT, Q9s, 97s etc. I do think we get a lot of folds here even in live cash if we take a XC-XC-Ai line.
Solve might be a little off as the main hand that was jamming is a hand like 7c6c, but also some bluffs from 9c9x.
Nov. 18, 2024 | 1:53 a.m.
35:30 great sizing by the button on this T85cc-Jx board using something like b125-B125 more of a geo3 size SRP IP PFC. I think value hands like 88/55/97s/Q9s gain max value with these geo sizes. Puts OOP in a blender with entire range. Besides the nuts not a single hand really feels comfortable in this spot. What do we do with a hand like AcQx that floated the flop and now has double gutter or KdQd and even over pairs? Its just a really hard size to play against.
Do we ever want to donk shove this river? As you mentioned we have a lot of AQ or XcXc in our range here. AT you mentioned is a blunder to call the turn with because we have QT/T9 etc. I assume 2 pair maybe sets are made indifferent if we donk shove this river?
Nov. 18, 2024 | 1:39 a.m.
20 min on this KJTss-Khh board you mentioned a lot of your strong hands are going to float bet the turn after OOP used a small flop bet, but slow play more often if OOP used a bigger flop cbet size. On wizard trips, straight, & boats are checking back 40% of the time on this turn. I think we should be less capped than we think. A lot of KX isn't too interesting in shoveling money in and facing a XR.
There was an old Gary Chapelle video that talked about when he is OOP and uses a bigger size on the flop he continues to barrel the turn more frequently because he already condensed IP range. When OOP uses a small cbet size, then IP has to float wide, so on the turn OOP will do a lot more checking because IP has so much air in their range that has to bluff. I think this is why we should not bet too many strong hands on the turn. Wizard Link is checking 58% of the time on the turn to the IP player after a B20 flop cbet size.
Nov. 18, 2024 | 1:25 a.m.
13:30 on AT5-Q being a range check turn spot reminds me of another spot KQ8-A turn. Where AQ does a lot of checking back! Have to be careful on these boards even with 2 pair hands. This was my hand where I barreled turn and got XR and solver is doing a lot of folding with AQ here. I also saw a video with Nacho where he barreled AQ on the same board as yours and folded to the turn XR. I think as humans we might over value 2 pair hands on these triple broadway boards.
Nov. 18, 2024 | 1:20 a.m.
44:10 is this a glitch on ACR? You can top up during a hand? You have 67bb but whenever you raise you have a 100bb.
Nov. 16, 2024 | 3:57 a.m.
On the river wizard has your combo as a pure check. -5.94 EV to shove. I don't understand the suit selection here. Are we just not supposed to bet missed spades? But then KsQc pure bets and KcQs pure checks. A bit confusing here.
Nov. 16, 2024 | 3:45 a.m.
27:45 Definitely a blunder to call with villain's hand. Folding 60% of the time on the turn as well.
Nov. 16, 2024 | 3:40 a.m.
Do you play limp-raise?
I tried this only for a couple of weeks. I am playing in a 9 handed game, so similar to over limping or iso raising I would also use some open limps. AsAx-2s2x I would RFI, no spade I would open limp and then mix in limp raises with AA-99. Red suited broadways open limp. Black ones RFI. But majority of the time I wasn't able to limp raise. They were just limping behind me. Some times someone would make it 10bb squeeze and now I felt very unsure about limp raising with AQ, JJ, KQs etc. I didn't think it was working too well. And I think most people just get scared of limp raises, so probably better not to do it with AA/KK actually. The one time I got AA to work was I over limped LJ, HJ over limped, Co made it 10bb. Initial limper cold called and I wasn't sure how to 3bet to a size that was less than 1/3 of my stack, so I elected to just shove and everyone folded. So once in a great while you pick up 10-20 extra BB. Maybe I could of made it 30bb still. I thought 30bb was a lot stronger than just shoving.
Nov. 15, 2024 | 3:39 a.m.
19:30 Given UTG player doesn't fold to 3bets, previous hand he called with K3c. You thought it was better to flat here and play a small pot vs the fish. Any merit to 3 betting to get the fish heads up to yourself? Avoid playing 3-4 way and stop one of the regulars in the blinds from 3betting and and squeezing you out of the pot?
If we flat lets pretend BB comes a long as well. So now we play a 9.5bb pot 3 way. If we 3bet, we can go smaller like 7.5bb (2.5x) now we can play a 16.5bb pot HU vs UTG. Which situation is better?
Nov. 14, 2024 | 4:53 a.m.
17 min I think I have asked you about this several times as well as some other coaches. I have had a mixture of advice on this spot dealing with limpers.
1st coach will say iso entire range.
2nd coach will say iso roughly a CO range and trim the fat, some thing half way between CO & HJ.
3rd coach will way iso only hands you will usually 3bet with and fold other wise. Treating the limper as if they raised 2bb.
4th advice is 1st one limper ISO CO range, vs 2 limpers ISO HJ range, vs 3 or more limpers iso LJ range.
None of the advice has really been to just over limp this spot, which I started doing about 2 weeks ago. I would iso a 3bet range pure, then hands like QsJx I would iso and QxJx (no spade) I would over limp. I started doing stuff like iso off suit hands with a spade and suited hands spade or clubs for SCs.
In reality I'm probably just making it too complicated. I don't want to face a 5x iso if I over limp. If I iso 3-4bb the person who ISO would just call, but they feel obligated to iso themselves with hands like A7s KJo 77 etc. It gets tricky with a hand like 66 where if we ISO 4bb they will only call or fold behind us majority of the time unless they have a top 5% hand. Where if we over limp a hand like 66, now they only call 4bb and we save ourselves 1bb from limp calling.
Would you say we can just pure ISO 77+ AJ+ KQ+ 9Xs+ and over limp everything else that is in our CO range? What about hands like A6s, 97s, JTo, K5s, etc? Are we over limping these and folding if someone iso behind us?
Would you say I can iso everything that is top 12% (100% frequency in yellow) then over limp everything that is 50% frequency in this chart? Would you go wider than this for your over limps? I'm basically taking the top 50% of the CO range to ISO with and over limp the other 50%.
Nov. 14, 2024 | 4:39 a.m.
11:35 In this straddle pot where CO iso to 13bb or 6.5 straddles what would be your 3bet size? How are you approaching this spot if you know the CO will iso to 8bb (4 straddles) with weaker hands and this 13bb (150% PSR) is only the stronger portion of cutoff's range? I hate giving these players extra money where most of their range is JJ+ AK when they go this big.
Nov. 14, 2024 | 4:23 a.m.
When you talked about the 4bb opens being bad and you have to play really tight to use that size. Any merit to using that size to bloat the pot against people that don't 3bet very often and you get to realize your equity? If they call too much and play more fit or fold postflop. Then raising larger and cbetting 33-50% pot is just auto profit right? Get to play more 2-3 way pots rather than 4 way pots.
Nov. 14, 2024 | 4:04 a.m.
99% of my volume these days is live cash. The one spot I found straddles to be appropriate is when you have a whale in 1-2 spots to your right and you are looking to play more pots vs them. Other than that the straddles just make the game much tighter. People are willing to call 3-5bb say $15-$25 in a 2/5 game with 88-22, SCs, AXs, etc. But when the straddle is on they are not calling $30-$50 with that same range. The straddle tends to tighten ranges and makes people play better.
Nov. 14, 2024 | 3:54 a.m.
Thanks for the explanation on the board pairing card vs a river ten.
The two charts though are the same runout but one has 353% pot and the other one is capped at 100% pot. They look very similar in range construction even thought the size is 3.5x bigger! I expected the betting frequency to be a lot less using a 3.5x size! Using 350% pot or 100% pot doesn't seem to matter too much.
Nov. 14, 2024 | 1:27 a.m.
In six max I found these spots to either bet nutted or hands like Jh8h for a combo draw. Where they won't bluff the river with hearts so they play B33-B150-X unless they improve. Then more naked draws like KJo they will just use B33-B75. Great spot to deny equity if you have a set or straight yourself. Where we know we are not playing any folds on the river, so given the SPR on the river it's best to just deny equity now. Maybe only slow play a straight with a heart.
Nov. 11, 2024 | 11:03 p.m.
How much EV do you lose if you just range bet K22? Only lose EV if OOP plays a heavy XR frequency?
there are even some 9 high calls going on at equilibrium.
Kind of crazy to see so much mixing going on from King high to 9 high here. I think I would want to unblock all 8 high and lower cards. Maybe J9 and higher for calls. Mainly 3x with a low card that gets counterfeit being turned into bluffs.
Mentally do you think you try and make more of these hero calls on the river given there is no more action on later streets compared to not being a hero with 55 on 762dd? I think I have this hero call problem on the river where I know I wouldn't defend correctly on earlier streets. Idk if its mental or strategic adjustment.
Nov. 11, 2024 | 10:58 p.m.
I tried to compare the custom Ai sim for the b25-b100 line with river being b67 or Ai 353% as you ran in the video for btn vs bb. Then trying to answer my own question about using a smaller size only B100 or X. The range construction on the right seems to be the same as the left even though the size is smaller. The frequency only shifted from 46% checking to 50%. You can see some hands like K9o, Q5s, & K2s not bluffing any more, but not a huge shift. Both ranges were still betting 43-44 combos.
I expected the range construction to change a little more than this given the size is 3x smaller. Can you explain why the bet size 100% didn't have much of an impact on the range construction compared to 353%? Or was it because the solver was using 2 sizes 353 & 67 before? Where only 353% had 31 combos in it and 67% had the other 14 combos.
maxer I used to or still am obsessed with poker and just have a really good memory.
Dec. 3, 2024 | 2:46 a.m.