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RunItTw1ce

233 points

$280 buyin / 72 entrants
Payout
1st $5220 + $350 Voucher
2nd $2880 + $350 Voucher
3rd $1810 + $350 Voucher
4th $1190 + $350 Voucher
5th $1190
6th $930
7th $790
8th $710

Eight players remaining, two other short stacks, one in Cutoff seems to be waiting out other short stacks trying to ladder up. One in MP about 3 hands away from BB, has about 50k.

6000/12000+12,000 bb ante.
utg1 (100K) folds
mp1 (600k) opens 36k
LJ (400k) folds
HJ (50K) folds
CO (80k) folds
BTN (100k) folds
SB (60k) folds
Hero BB (71k +12k bb + 12k ante / 95k (8bb) total to start the hand) KhJh ???

When I plug this hand into SnapShove app it gives me the following range
44+
A2s+, A8o+
K7s+, K10o+
Q9s+, QJo+
J9s+
T9s+

What range are you reshoving here given you have no fold equity against this player? He is opening wide range for big sizes all the time 3-5bb. There are two other short stacks, not really worried about laddering up, trying to win, but what is the correct reshoving range. Seems like the reshove range is a bit light given zero FE.

Hand #2
Blinds 4k/8k ten handed at the time (two tables of 5 each) Top 12 paid out, so already ITM.
UTG shoves 38k (4.75bb)
Hero (119k) A9o ?
BB (49k)

I am guessing this is easy reshove spot as utg is going to be shoving a wide range here.

Sept. 7, 2019 | 10:52 p.m.

I mean the 4 bet narrrow's his range where he shouldn't have all pairs and all flush draws in his range. Similar to how Koon mentioned block betting the turn, the 1/5th sizing still applies in some 4 bet pots on Axx and Kxx boards. Flush draw is very narrow part of his range.

Sept. 3, 2019 | 9:39 p.m.

Thanks Belrio42. Really solid advice. I dropped down levels from 500nl to 300nl today and definitely no need to 3 bet any SCs or Axs hands in this game. Just looking for pure value hands as you listed above with AJs+ KQs+ TT+ basically. Vs LP i'll go a little wider for value, but just going to be all linear pretty much in this game. Mostly shallow stacks it seems, so I need to be high card and suited heavy.

Sept. 2, 2019 | 9:53 a.m.

Respect live players 3 bets and barrels despite their cbet sizing or turn sizing. They are not paying attention to the pot, but a lot of players have a very low bluff frequency. I like to use a standard 4bb+1bb sizing as my opens, then a 3.5x multipler for 3 bet sizing. Embrace multiway pots because they are unavoidable in a live setting. Throw balance out the window, once they call the flop on Q63 board they probably have Qx and are not folding, so don't need to bluff a lot of turns unless you improve to better than Qx or have KQ+ yourself, then just value bet. Can often times get 3 streets with KQ where online might only get 2 streets. Just play really face up pretty much, I won't worry about doing any type of range bets for 1/3 sizing as my cbet. 1/3 sizing as bluff works fine, then 50-66% with value and good equity hands. There is a video where Patrick Sekinger plays 50NL six max hudless where he does this with a lot of hands. Just play really face up and people often times just don't care or adjust. They are calling 7bb opens with hands like T7s, J4s, J10o and A2s etc. If they have a suited ace, suited broadway, or 77+ they are calling your 3 bet. If they 3 bet you they have AA-QQ and about 25% of the time AK. I wouldn't cbet MW unless you have value or good equity. Don't worry about betting 2/3 pot or using a polar sizing. Just bet an amount you think they will call and often times with the nuts just bet big because they think big bet means you are bluffing, so again just play your strong value range really face up for large sizings and multiple streets. It's fine to donk bet sets if the PFR is in LP and you have field callers in the middle. Trap all that dead money in the middle and if the PFR has an overpair, now he is likely to stack off because pot is so big! "Too much in the middle" as the say, "Nothing I can do." Then just be nice to people, let them have a good time, don't complain about a bad beat or do any type of coaching. Check your ego at the door, don't let them know you are good at the game. Just have fun! Don't be afraid to socialize, leave your ear phones in your bag. Also wearing a hoodie, glasses, ear phones, etc kind of hurts your EV! No one likes playing against a tag who isn't have a good time.

I've been guilty of all these things at one point in time. I speak from experience. The crushers encourage the fish to play bad by telling them nice hand or good play etc. Oh, last but not least, people are generally very honest. Don't be afraid to talk at the table, just ask them questions "You hit your flush huh?" A genuine smile usually gives it all away.

A bit of an unorganized rant, but a lot of good info in there.

Good luck at the tables!

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:52 p.m.

I think with aggro image, Can down-bet even smaller on the flop for like 1/5th sizing. The 4 bet already condensed villains range a ton, so no need to do a standard 1/3 sizing with everything. Do you think he is really folding QQ or JJ here? Hand seems ok in theory, just not sure about the cbet sizing.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:37 p.m.

Hand I played last night ($2/$5 game) Effective $500 (me) Recreational covers
Weaker some what passive recreational opened $15 in HJ,
I 3bet 9s8s in CO to $45,
BTN cold calls $45
HJ calls $30.
Flop ($140) Tx6s4x
Rec leads out $30
Hero calls $30 (gut shot + bad door flush draw)
BTN raises to $80
Rec calls ($50 more)
I call $50 more. [good or bad?!?!?!....$50 to win $330 immediately, with $375 behind after I call effective.]
Turn ($380) Tx6s4xQx
HJ leads $115
Hero ($375) calls again getting 4.3 : 1 with 8 outs, so 18% needed, but have some implied odds. Problem is I am not closing the action!!!!
BTN calls $115
River ($725) Tx6s4xQx2x
HJ leads $120
Hero ($260) folds.
Co Min raises to $240
HJ calls $120 more.

HJ shows TT for flop top set, Btn mucks (no idea what he had).

I have been watching a lot of the six max videos by Henry Lister and other pros like Patrick (psek1) & Peter Clarke, where they seem to 3 bet a lot of SCs IP both vs regs and recreationals. Is this a thing in live environment considering the open sizings are a bit bigger being 3-5bb opens? I am sure at $10/$20+ it makes a lot more sense where stacks are much deeper, being they are generally uncapped. I am not sure about live environment being 9 max, shallower stack, and ranges tend to be more value heavy when people raise and more trash when they limp. As you can see from this one example, given the BTN cold called, only have about a 3 SPR, where I am not how well SCs do in this spot.

I have the ground up series with Peter Clarke, I think 3 bets are mostly TT+ and AQ+ based on the videos I watched, but this is beginner level work. Just wondering in terms of max exploit and when someone should start 3 betting SCs? I am guessing need to be about 200bb deep in a live environment.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:29 p.m.

Hi Henry Lister in a live environment are you 3 betting your lower / middling SCs as well or flat calling / folding vs the opens?

Hand I played last night ($2/$5 game) Effective $500 (me) Recreational covers
Weaker some what passive recreational opened $15 in HJ, I 3bet 9s8s in CO to $45, BTN cold calls and HJ calls as well.
Flop ($140) Tx6s4x
Rec leads out $30
I call
BTN raises to $80
Rec calls.
I call (good or bad?!?!?!) $50 to win $330 immediately with $375 behind after I call effective.
Turn ($380) Tx6s4xQx
HJ leads $115
Hero ($375) calls again getting 4.3 : 1 with 8 outs, so 18% needed, but have some implied odds. Problem is I am not closing the action.
BTN calls.
River ($725) Tx6s4xQx2x
HJ leads $120
I fold
Co raises to $240
HJ calls.

HJ shows TT for flop top set, Btn mucks (no idea what he had).

Sept. 1, 2019 | 11:18 p.m.

Thanks simonfrost681 & DNegs98 the people I talked to are on the same page. One guy said he is not 5 betting, but flatting the QQ in this spot given stack depth to keep fish in then evaluate post flop as AK shouldn't shove 3 ways.

In game H#1 BB had TT & H#2 BB had JJ... I think 90% of the time here I run into KK-AA though. Just happen to have them crushed these two times.

Sept. 1, 2019 | 1:01 a.m.

Hi Owen Shiels I just started watching your videos and I play in live tourneys and cash. There is one hand in particular I am not sure how to play it towards the end game as well.
Top 16 cash, 127 entered. Down to final 30 people.
I'll have roughly 20bb in both hands.

Hand #1
9 handed 1k/2k+2kbb ante
UTG opens 5.5k Semi tag maybe professional tourney player.
Hero (37k / 18.5bb) BTN A10o ?

Hand #2
9 handed 1k/2k+2kbb ante
A10o UTG (37k / 18.5bb) ?

Overall A10o just seems to be a problematic hand. I am not sure if I am over folding preflop but just folding in EP first 2-3 spots in the 15-20bb range. At 13bb or so I am just shoving all in. I am mostly a cash game player and A10o just becomes a fold vs EP raise. Not sure about tourneys.

Hand #3
9 handed,(1200/2400+2400bb ante)
28 people left / 16 cash.
UTG & utg1 folds.
Mp1 (75k) opens 6k
Hero BTN (32,600 /13.5) with 66 ?

The snap shove app I use has 13.5 bb reshove range as [77+, AJ+, A10s+, KQs]

At 13bb the reshove range is [66+, A8s+, A10o+, K10s, KQ+, Q10s+, J10s+]

is the half BB really that big of a difference in FE? Seems like the range drastically increases from 13% to 8%.

Any feed back on these three spots is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Aug. 31, 2019 | 10:32 p.m.

*Hand #1*
[TAG] CO ($800) opens $20
[TAG] BTN ($1K) JJ 3bet to $65
BB - 4 bet to $155 ($300 or so behind)

older Asian guy a bit unorthdox as i've seen him cold call 3 bets in the past with 88-JJ range and some AJs and AQo hands. Not sure what to make of his style, seems loose passive, but also spazzes postflop with top pair.

Co folds
Hero ?

*Hand #2*
BB is a bit nitty as i've seen him limp call from EP with AJs AQo hands and limps other hands as well Scs, 22-99 etc. His 3 bet range is usually JJ+ AKs with AKo being a mix.

HJ is unknown, but over the 1 orbit we played together, I raised AKs $20, he calls 88. SB 3bet to $65, I 4bet AKs to $240, and he shoves 88 in for $300, so a bit of a fishy player. Another hand he opens $15, gets 3 bet to $50, and shoves for $600 with JJ. Small sample, but seems over aggressive with most PP 88+.

3 folds
Hero ($1300) LJ QQ opens $20
HJ ($450) fish 3bets to $105
BB (2k) nitty 4 bets to $210
Hero QQ?

My thinking was, BB did a min 4bet to make sure action stays open incase I call and fish ships, then he'll have option to reship. In game I elected to fold in this spot, I am not sure what the correct play is long run at this stack depth or even at $500 stack depth (100bb) What are you doing with QQ?

Aug. 31, 2019 | 10:17 p.m.

Patrick Sekinger

20:22 mark you fold 99 HJ vs LJ 3bb open. LJ appears to be recreational given stack size. I am a little confused why you are folding in this spot.

Aug. 29, 2019 | 12:18 a.m.

Hi Patrick Sekinger

15:50 you fold A8s on the button. can you talk about your calling / 3 betting range in this spot? I thought maybe you fold because BB is short. I thought you might call because stacks are a little deeper. It's a spot I am usually calling in live games.

Aug. 29, 2019 | 12:12 a.m.

900k hands with 80k profit so about 4bb/100? Henry Lister

Thanks for sharing! Very impressive! Looks like your biggest downswing is about 25 buyins ($5k). Sound about right?

Aug. 27, 2019 | 9:29 p.m.

Hi Henry Lister

Can you discuss this fold vs 2.2x sizing? Mostly asking what is a rough guideline to your calling / 3 betting range here given 5 or the 6 including yourself are regs on this table. I am assuming you are folding because of this reason. How often would AJo be a 3 bet here HJ vs LJ open?

Aug. 17, 2019 | 11:32 p.m.

At the 25 min mark you elected to flat call 88 in SB because the villain uses a large 4 bet sizing in his strategy which puts you in a tough spot. On this 662 board, what are you really repping in this small blind cold call range besides 88 and 99? Doesn't seem like you have anything else in your cold call range and open yourself up for easy 3 bet.

Aug. 14, 2019 | 12:47 a.m.

EluSiVeMark did you show the cold calling ranges? Feels like its mostly 77+ and suited broadways, maybe a couple SCs.

Aug. 13, 2019 | 5:38 p.m.

Pretty spot on to my exact thoughts. On the last hand though, I figured live players are really bad at bubble play as I saw someone reshove KQo vs 4bb utg open 8 hand with KQ for like 12bb, utg only had A8s to my surprise as a short stack.

I did end up cashing as after I.folded the AJ i made the money, but 2 hands into the money (2 others busted immediately) I was BB again at 4k\8k +8kbb ante and only had 21k total to start the hand. I shoved KJ hand before and chopped vs KJ.

It sucks not knowing the other stacks in the tourney, I tried to glance at the other two tables and there were a couple 50k stacks, so I was likely the shortest, but since they have less than 10bb always a chance they bust.

I still think min cash then play for the win is best as short \ medium stack, big stacks should punish the bubble. Guess ill go watch some tourney videos.

Aug. 13, 2019 | 5:35 p.m.

Down to the final 3 tables with 20-22 people left and top 19 people get paid. Question is when should I over fold and when do I play for the win?

Will post 3 hands below either directly on the bubble or 1 off the bubble.

Hand #1 3k\6k + bb ante 6k
Currently 21 people (2 away from ITM).
Seven handed
HJ (150k) opens 16k
Co folds
Hero btn (46k) KcJc ?
I chose to fold here rather than take a 60\40 spot at best imo.

Hand #2
Ep opens 15k
HJ calls 15k
Hero (46k) AJo ?
Same as before I chose to fold still 21 people.

Hand #3 bubble
20 people left
3k\6k+6kbb ante
Sb shoves 100% (200k+)
Hero BB (28.5k) 6k bb + 6k ante (16.5k behind) AJo.
Here still 3 tables cant see the other stacks but we are hand for hand. Likely to cash ($670) if bubble burst next 6 hands or so. Is this a 100% fold? I chose to fold here and wait for ITM and basically hope for the best spot.

Just a question of playing ftw or min cash then try and chip up after. Like going 5bb to 10bb how much is it actually worth? Or 4bb to 8bbb etc.

Aug. 13, 2019 | 1:29 a.m.

This is only 2nd level of the tourney, with starting stack of 15,000. BB ante starts at the very first level 100/100 +100 bb ante. This was 10 handed to start the tourney. I said Villain is 'unknown' in terms of being active because its the beginning of the tourney with only 15 minute levels. Also its only 45 bb effective at BB 200, and effective stack only 9,000. I don't think hero should ever open limp unless its with a strong hand and I see someone is about to raise. I think the TT+, AJs+ AK range is better considering its EP vs EP 3bet. Most players are not out of line, so I should proceed with a really tight range. Not sure if KQs and KJs are calls as they will be in my opening range as well from UTG. Shallow stack depth favors high cards.

Aug. 10, 2019 | 3:41 p.m.

I also like to punish those players who use small sizing for thin value on river spots. So you open yourself up to be bluffed here as well. Just depends on how strong your pool is, not very common for players to bluff raise.

Aug. 9, 2019 | 12:41 a.m.

imo if you are betting 55 here then you can also bet AK for value to target weaker Ace high. I am just saying 55 is likely good, but its standard to check back.

Aug. 9, 2019 | 12:39 a.m.

Villain is unknown small $180 buy-in tourney.
Blinds (100/200 + 200bb ante).
Hero (T$covers) UTG 88 open 500
UTG1 folds
MP1 (9000) 3 bet to 1500

What is the calling range here given the shallow stacks?

Aug. 9, 2019 | 12:35 a.m.

Standard check imo. Bet 9x+.

Aug. 8, 2019 | 12:51 a.m.

Yes, to both of your inquires. Just call jam. Then bottom of range to defend KT+. I think you may be able to defend some QsJs hand given bdsd with it. But fold 98s and 87s.

Aug. 8, 2019 | 12:47 a.m.

I am not even considering folding here. Plenty of Axs hands he could have.

Aug. 8, 2019 | 12:43 a.m.

Preflop I would 3bet to around $80. 3x raise over a bet and a call being oop is just really small. You want to create a low SPR and make it a 2 street game. I would lead flop for about 66-75% sizing and call off as you unblock clubs and obvious draws like KQ. With straddle on $60 (10bb) would be good for IP, $72 is good for oop (12bb), would go $80+ with the caller. If you dont get action for $80 that is fine, just keep expanding your 3 bet range. Dont be scared of monsters under the bed.

Aug. 1, 2019 | 11:17 a.m.

300bb deep AJs is mandatory call vs 3 bet. Yes, they will have a tight range, I am surprised to see a hand like 99 show up here. You kind of lost minimum as villain IP took a BCB line. I would consider betting river for $60 into $187, which is about 1/3 pot (32%) to try and get a sticky call from TT-KK. Some live players, just hate folding KK even with Axx on the board. If villain is 3 betting 99 preflop, maybe he has some KQs, KJs, QJs, etc type hands as well in his range, which may take this line given you checked all three streets. Back door flush gets there as well, so idk if he turns QcQx or KcKx into a bluff. Seems some what standard.

Aug. 1, 2019 | 1:29 a.m.

What are the stack sizes to start the hand for you and CO? If stacks are deeper seems like CO has too narrow of a range for 76s and 87s to be his only bluffs. Do you think he is folding 75s-T8s preflop? In live poker value will out weigh a lot of bluffs, so I wouldn't use PIO so much. Also it is 3 way action, which PIO does not do, correct?

1) Do you have better hands to call with in your range? (Yes)
2) Is villain value heavy on A68r-5x texture with 75% sizing on the turn? (yes)

A6s (1), A8s (1), 66 (3), 88 (3), A5s (1),

would he bluff with a hand like A7s (2) probably not...

Would he be merged enough to have 65s, 86s, A6s, A5s for his over bet sizing?

I would just fold on the turn given you are only ahead of like 3-4 combos here and likely to face another barrel. I would say he can have some T9s (3) as well with bdfd on the flop in his range. Probably not a good bluff though given it blocks some of your weaker Ax hands.

I also think in terms of check calling the turn because it's your weaker Ax, that you should just be barreling off 1/3 most streets here and folding to aggression in a live setting.

Flop ($210) A68
bet $60
Turn ($330) A685r
bet $110
River ($550) A6853
bet $180

If you get raised it is just an easy fold in general. I think if you input 1/3 sizing on the flop turn and river PIO would prefer it with your hand.

July 29, 2019 | 2:22 p.m.

Post | RunItTw1ce posted in NLHE: JJ facing a 8bb open

$2/$3/$5 nine handed
2 folds
Mp1 ($345) opens $40
Mp2 folds
HJ ($1500) calls $40
Hero CO ($500) JJ calls $40

Flop ($130) 8h5s5c
MP1 bets $100
HJ calls $100
Hero all in $460

Mp1 older Asian lady can have all pairs here and AQs AK KQs etc. She raises big with most PP and strong broadway hands and usually fires a Cbet. HJ has been Loose aggro preflop and making some moves postflop. I am thinking I need some protection against the lady, if she has QQ+ so be it, but can get a lot of value from here 66, 77, 88-TT region. The HJ can have a lot of 97s, 86s, A8o, etc here. Yes, even for $40 open he has wide calling range. In terms of 5x he can have some A5s, 75s, 54s, and 65s. He is more likely to have 5x than anyone else in this spot, but it's hard to flop trips.

I am not sure if I should be 3 betting this vs a 8bb open because of the dead money in the middle or flat calling and avoid a flip / being crushed when lady stacks off. If I were to 3bet here, what would be best size given her stack size? I also want to deny HJ pot odds here. How do you play JJ preflop and postflop in this spot?

July 29, 2019 | 2:07 p.m.

SB is a unknown, but recreational player who just started playing NL. Has been loose aggro preflop with some marginal hands like J10o from UTG, playing about 40% of hands. He has also made some moves where he check raised As6c on 8s7s7h board from MP after a bet and a call. Very capable of bluffing.

six handed ($3/$5)
BTN ($400) limps $5
SB ($1500) raises to $15
hero BB ($1,040) Qs6s calls $10
BTN calls $10

Flop ($45) Qh-Td-6d
SB CB $20
Hero Qs6s raises to $70
BTN calls $70
SB 3B to $275
Hero calls $205 more.
BTN folds.

After the $205 call we have about $750 behind and he has me covered. What is the correct play on the turn if it comes a brick like 2c? Are we stacking off here or folding to aggro rec? Started the hand just over 200bb deep. Also is Q6s preflop a fold given a limp and 3bb open?

July 29, 2019 | 1:56 p.m.

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