disco5tu

i dislike flatting pre from the sb with pretty much anything, unless you have reason to keep the bb in the pot. 

i don't like leading turn. i don't really know what range you would be representing? ye you fold out some of his 2 overcard hands, but i don't think that is enough incentive to lead into his 3-betting range. don't really know what we're supposed to do ott but i try to avoid these situations where we're oop by playing differently pre. make a range for him and do some maths.

If players behind are not very aggro(particularly BU) then i think pre is fine, given the value of the fish. 

Post: i call down, unless you have some super super strong read

+1 to pretty much everything chael said. if you think he's aggro spewy then i'd be inclined to call QdQx. the higher the pair, the fewer cards we need to be 'scared' of. for instance if he has KdJx for example, when have TT he has any K/J to hit a higher pair than us. aswell as any A/Q being a card we are unhappy about. However, when we have AA, we are not scared of any of these cards making him better pairs. 

if you believe that he would raise/gii with 99-JJ and maybe some 8x or something then there could be more of an argument for jamming as there could be some turn cards that kill our action, but it depends how that portion of his range weighs up against the other portions.

i think 3-bet sizing is fine if not slightly large, unless you are exploiting a tendency to not fold to 3-bet.

why do you think KK particularly, but also QQ/AK are in his preflop calling range?

i think we can mix up our play on the flop a bit. We can't really go bet/bet/bet and get 3 streets, so really we're looking for 2 streets of value. i think checking the flop sometimes is ok as our hand doesn't need protecting at all. if we're going to bet on this flop, we should bet a lot smaller imo

3-bet is slightly too big imo, given villain stack size and we're IP. 

I probably check back flop. If i bet, i bet smaller. As played, we have too good a price to fold.

the hand is well played imo. 

what would the purpose of the flop raise be? for value, to get called by worse hands and draws? if so, would you also be raising KcTc? and if not, why not?

i would probably shove, given stats

if you know what all of your stats are and you use them, then it's fine obv.

I personally don't have that many because i wouldn't use them so they just get in the way unnecessarily.

x/c could have some merit, but in general i prefer just b/f.

wp

am i reading this right?

we have a pair+FD+OESD and we're getting almost 3/1........

ya don't fold. i think you got in op. with a larger 4-bet, sticking it in is probably best. however, as he makes it quite small, calling is probably slightly better.

you wanna explain the 3-bet? i'm not a fan, but if you're gonna do it then surely make it bigger?

not really sure what the best turn line is really. hand gets really weird when he raises. i don't really know what range to give him, but cba to get into it. 

i guess i think betting is ok coz i don't expect people to raise their Ax

then i guess we fold river, but i'd love to have a bit of info on his line

i think pre, flop and turn are all fine imo. i don't think we need to be 3-betting much from BB, but i probably would from the SB. Postflop: we have some SD value so i think just calling is fine.

river is pretty close. i doubt it matters too much, but i'm not very good with the folding, so....

pre is standard.

dislike the lead. given the spr, we can easily get stacks in in 2 streets. our hand doesn't need protecting. this hand fits much better as a check imo

standard, wp.

i probably gii pre. 

as played, i'm not folding

i like b/f in general. folding out his "air hands" isn't really a bad thing. we protect our equity from 6 outs and possibly more ott

i think i probably should've 4-bet a bit bigger pre, but not much. it's a back 4-bet IP, so i don't think it has to be huge. 

Fish

I don't really have any reads on the fish other than i had him labelled as a fish. this makes it pretty difficult to assign him a range. if we assume he isn't too bad, then he probably doesn't jam J9/sets, but he probably doesn't jam toooo many bluffs and stuff. if we assume he is bad, then he may have some crazy stuff, but i think it's also more possible for him to have good stuff.

Aggro Reg

I think his range is a looooot wider than what you have given. i think he probably can have KK-88, so he can have quite a few sets, which is the main problem for me. his range is wider in general though so it also gives him a few more hands that we will be beating. I'm not sure we can just call/fold because i think he's just about crazy enough to stick it in with stuff we beat so i think we'd have to call it off vs a shove because we would be getting a pretty sick price.

ok. thought it was pretty close coz pretty near the top of our range other than flushes i guess. 

how do you guys play sets/2-pairs otf? and if you're flatting sets, are they gonna be folds otr aswell?

also, say the 7s comes on the river and villain jams, we call or fold?

thanks

meh, vs such a small bet i think i'm just gonna call. #lolpotodds

i agree that this would be too thin. i think i might go to some KT because we clearly do have quite a lot of potential bluffs

ye flop raise makes me wanna be sick 

i don't think the TT jam is that bad. i think it's pretty close. you never know what people will call you with until you give them a chance. why do you think he would fold 33/66? you need to bluff more!

jamming 99 doesn't make any sense to me. what better hands are we folding out? if he's played AA like a mong, he's probably not gonna fold.