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foldnowpls

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Bet flop you lose value against worse hands and draws. As played I would call turn based on general population reads at this limit.

Feb. 2, 2017 | 11:30 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: NL 25 Bluff in 3bet Pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $33.60
SB: $56.69
BB: $39.87
UTG: $11.79
MP: $82.74
CO: $37.42 (Hero)
Villain on the looser side running 37/21 and 3 betting 9% out of BB
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with 8 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.35, Hero calls $1.60
Pre i think calling is good at this stack depth
Flop ($4.80) 3 T T
BB checks, Hero checks
Not a great flop to start bluffing as we dont have much equity and a lot of his hands will check call at least once.
Turn ($4.80) 3 T T J
BB checks, Hero bets $3.00, BB calls $3.00
Once he checks twice and we pick up draw i think betting makes sense. As mentioned above think we should bet twice to fold underpairs and A high hands plus we can rep some Jx hands
River ($10.80) 3 T T J T
BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50
On river I went for this sizing as it looks a bad spot to bluff and so I may be trying to tempt A high or weaker hands to call. This seems more of an exploitable tactic and maybe I should be sizing up so I can bet more bluffs?
Final Pot BB wins and shows three of a kind, Tens.
CO lost and shows three of a kind, Tens.
BB wins $18.91
Rake is $0.89

Aug. 17, 2016 | 6:31 p.m.

The next unusual resource I would recommend taking a look at is a long essay called Principles by Ray Dalio. In particular the first thirty or so pages has some practical ideas about identifying your strengths and weaknesses and the need for constant feedback and reflection in order to show a marked improvement.

I found a number of applications for poker in this short piece such as when he says that you have to be honest with yourself and be able to confront your own weaknesses because only through understanding and accepting them can you begin to improve. To me this refers to situations where too often you blame variance or bad luck for your recent results rather than putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation and taking the time to review all the mistakes you made during the session.

The sooner you confront your shortcomings and do something about it the faster you can start to improve. Anytime you feel uncomfortable or unsure of yourself at the tables make sure these are the spots you review after the session. Look for patterns or themes to the mistakes you make so you can correct the high level issues.

In order to improve you need to know your own game inside out so if at the moment you don’t feel your game is any good then accept this reality and do something about it.

Aug. 1, 2016 | 12:29 p.m.

The second book that I would recommend to anyone that currently plays poker and is looking to improve is The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin. This book is a fantastic account of his experiences playing high level chess and then competing in the world championships as a martial artist.

While the story is entertaining in itself the real value comes from understanding his approach to learning a new skill.
The book is crammed full of insight and so I would recommend picking up a copy but here are a few ideas that could be useful. The best way of learning something is to try to understand the core principles that underlie every situation.

With regards to poker I take this to mean try to understand the theory of poker itself and spend the most time analysing the spots that arise the most often.
He talks of situations where he spent hours breaking down chess games on his own and with a coach to try to understand exactly what is happening at every stage of the game. In order to truly understand something you have to be able to see a problem from every angle?

Next time you review a spot ask yourself questions like:

Why did I choose to make this play?
Are there other ways that I could have accomplished the same thing?
What would villain’s best response be to this strategy?
Was there something I neglected to notice at the time of the hand?

July 7, 2016 | 1:37 p.m.

Post | foldnowpls posted in Chatter: Multi Disciplinary Thinking

Recently I have been spending more time reading and studying strategies and learning techniques from disciplines other than poker. In doing this I hoped to make myself a more effective learner and strategist in general which hopefully will benefit me at the tables. Decided to start a thread here to share some of the ideas I have found useful so others can benefit as well. Hope to use this as a bit of a sounding board and would encourage others to post any thoughts or book recommendations as well.

So to start this off I have recently started reading Poor Charlie’s Almanack which is written about the investor Charlie Munger who along with the more widely known Warren Buffett runs Berkshire Hathaway. One of the core messages of the book is that you need to have a good knowledge of the main ideas in a variety of disciplines in order to be a more effective problem solver. One idea is that of inversion originally taken from Mathematics where in order to solve a problem you try to look at it from the opposite perspective.

Sounds great you say but how can this help you?

Well the way I started applying this was when reviewing my sessions or when watching videos I spend time focusing on the villains play in any hand rather than our own.
Ask yourself questions like:
What does villain think our range looks like in this spot?
How are they trying to adjust to our play?

Another way I have tried this is by thinking through hands in reverse so looking at the river play and the working backwards. Give it a try you might be surprised what you pick up by thinking about a problem from a different angle.

June 29, 2016 | 7:58 p.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: 99 in 3bet pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (3 Players) BB: $48.97
BN: $25.65
SB: $28.48 (Hero)
New game so not many reads villain has been quite aggressive pre so far but we are playing 3 handed
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 9
BN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, BN calls $1.75
Standard 3bet not sure i would ever do anything else
Flop ($5.40) 3 8 5
Hero bets $2.58, BN calls $2.58
Flop I think we still want to bet to protect our hand, think maybe i could bet larger though.
Turn ($10.56) 3 8 5 T
Hero checks, BN bets $7.05, Hero folds
Really not sure whats best on this turn, we could definitely bet again for a medium sizing but I checked with the intention of check calling. However when he bets this size it makes it more awkward as we will then get a great price to call river but there are no real good river cards for our hand. Does anyone just shove turn when he makes it this large?
Final Pot BN wins $10.08
Rake is $0.48

June 23, 2016 | 9:13 p.m.

If you bet that size which I think makes sense what would you then bet on river with about 1.5 pot behind

June 17, 2016 | 8:31 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: NL25 Turn Spot with Trips
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BB: $13.55
UTG: $25.00
MP: $30.71
CO: $7.57
BN: $26.92 (Hero)
SB: $27.04
Villain is quite aggressive over small sample running 29/24 and three betting 15% from SB v BTN
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BN with T 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB raises to $1.75, BB folds, Hero calls $1.25
Think call is only real option here
Flop ($3.75) T 2 3
SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
Interesting that he makes quite a large bet on this texture but could just be his normal sizing
Turn ($8.75) T 2 3 T
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB folds
What is our best sizing when checked to on turn? Seems we always have the best hand when he checks here but as well as Tx we have quite a few pairs that want to bet to get protection against AK/AQ type hands and we could also have a few floats that now decide to bluff. Would you prefer this small sizing I used and the make a larger river bet with a more polarised range or make a larger bet on turn and just check back our medium strength hands instead?
Final Pot BN wins $8.36
Rake is $0.39

June 16, 2016 | 8:03 p.m.

Comment | foldnowpls commented on TPNK Turnplay

I would fold turn with this hand with the four straight on board. We have no good rivers and aren't good often enough on turn.

June 1, 2016 | 4:21 p.m.

Just because he stabs the flop with a wide range does not mean he three barrels every bluff combo.
Your call is not terrible if you had more reads but I would also consider the fact that the q blocks some of his gunshots and blocking a heart as well I would definitely fold this combo on river

May 23, 2016 | 12:26 p.m.

Not sure what you achieve with turn raise on this texture. Not sure you get enough folds as his double range is likely strong in this spot. I prefer calling and getting to play river in position.
Once you do raise think you have to fold to the shove unless you are very optimistic about his range.

May 19, 2016 | 6:19 p.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: Overpair in 3bet Pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $25.00
SB: $25.72
BB: $31.70
UTG: $28.35 (Hero)
MP: $39.90
CO: $69.11
Villain is a good reg running 23/19 with an 8.7% 3bet and has 3bet 1/8 times v UTG open
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO raises to $2.10, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.35
Pre I think calling is best as his value range is likely very tight but he prob has a few bluffs we want to keep in his range
Flop ($4.55) 7 2 T
Hero checks, CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00
Decent flop for our hand and range think calling is best.
Turn ($10.55) 7 2 T 5
Hero checks, CO bets $6.90, Hero calls $6.90
Turn is close would expect him to be quite polarised on this turn, not sure if he ever checks overpairs with or without clubs. Think calling makes sense especially with Qc but not a great situation
River ($24.35) 7 2 T 5 8
Hero checks, CO bets $14.88, Hero folds
Having reviewed the hand I noticed a couple of interesting points depending on villains strategy. If he is betting AA/KK on all three streets as well as flushes he has very few bluffs and so we should fold. However if he checks overpairs on turn or river which seems reasonable at least some percentage of the time suddenly his value range shrinks quite substantially. As a standard without more reads would anyone do anything different?
Final Pot CO wins $23.25
Rake is $1.10

May 19, 2016 | 6:06 p.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: AJo 3 Barrel Bluff
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $59.44
SB: $56.98 (Hero)
BB: $49.25
UTG: $91.78
MP: $62.71
CO: $136.21
Villain is opening wide from CO over small sample but think AJ is an ok 3bet pre
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with A J
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BN folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, CO calls $3.00
Flop ($9.50) 8 6 Q
Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50
Fairly connected board that hits his range fairly well so not sure I like my cbet in hindsight
Turn ($20.50) 8 6 Q 4
Hero bets $12.50, CO calls $12.50
At the time i felt he would not have many two pairs as the board is quite disconnected and sets and some flush draws may raise flop so with decided to barrel turn and shove blank rivers.
River ($45.50) 8 6 Q 4 5
Hero bets $34.48 and is all in, CO folds
After playing round with ranges this river play seems profitable if he folds all but his very best Qx hands. Not sure about this or the line in general think I end up overbluffing quite a bit.
Final Pot SB wins $43.50
Rake is $2.00

April 25, 2016 | 7:20 p.m.

Think this or maybe 88 would make be the bottom of my cold calling range.
on turn his range will be quite polarised and I would expect someone competent to bet most rivers after barrelling turn because of how strong his range looks.
Without any postflop reads think folding turn is good.

March 7, 2016 | 9:40 a.m.

Don't hate a call given we don't block any bluffs and he can have a lot of missed draws on this run out especially bvb.

However at these limits and on this particular river I think a lot of villains give up too often so think making an exploitable fold it best.

Feb. 29, 2016 | 10:34 a.m.

Comment | foldnowpls commented on aqs xc/xc/xs

I think it's difficult to criticise your line as it looks very strong and most villains will be value betting and potentially bluffing quite wide on this run out.
However none of your reads are more than assumptions and so it seems an expensive way to find out how he responds to this line. What hands are you playing this way for value ?

Feb. 29, 2016 | 9:25 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: Facing weird line in 3 bet Pot NL 50
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) CO: $58.11
BN: $60.84
SB: $60.68 (Hero)
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.68
MP: $54.82
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with 2 A
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BN folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, CO calls $3.00
Villain was opening very wide and so decided to 3 bet this hand.
Flop ($9.50) K 3 4
Hero bets $4.53, CO raises to $9.50, Hero calls $4.97
Normally would just fold but villain seemed very aggro and raising this texture did not make sense to me so I elected to call and see a turn. This board connects with our range so dont think villain should have a raising range here if he wants to avoid being exploitable.
Turn ($28.50) K 3 4 T
Hero checks, CO checks
On turn I think we could lead unsure what to do if he bets again potentially x/r though this is up for debate.
River ($28.50) K 3 4 T 8
Hero bets $15.50, CO calls $15.50
On river once we call flop I think our range looks quite strong and value heavy given the lack of draws possible on the flop. Thought he may have some better Ax hands or maybe some tx hands he bluffed with on the flop so decided to bet. As our range is quite strong didnt think I would need to bet much to get the job done. Think this hand is pretty questionable on every street so wanted a sense check really to see if my play is decent or not.
Final Pot CO wins and shows high card Ace.
SB lost and shows high card Ace.
CO wins $57.00
Rake is $2.50

Feb. 24, 2016 | 8:31 p.m.

Comment | foldnowpls commented on NL 50 Turn X/R

Thanks guys if I do decide to bet turn what rivers would you continue on assuming we miss or if you don't want to be specific what factors should i consider when deciding whether to bluff on rivers?

Feb. 22, 2016 | 3:36 p.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: NL 50 Turn X/R
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $50.00
SB: $50.25
BB: $50.00 (Hero)
UTG: $106.93
MP: $71.55
CO: $114.64
Villain is tight running 17/12 over small sample but has not folded to a 3bet yet.
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, CO calls $2.75
Flop ($8.25) 3 T 2
Hero bets $4.00, CO calls $4.00
Turn ($16.25) 3 T 2 9
Hero checks, CO bets $11.32, Hero raises to $42.00 and is all in, CO calls $30.68
Up till turn I think is fairly standard though feel free to comment if you think otherwise. Turn is not a card he folds on often if we double barrel as it hits his range more. For this reason I decided against barreling though potentially it becomes profitable if we shove on a variety of rivers to get some of his pairs and draws to fold.
I could check call which in hindsight may be better though I thought by check raising i was trying to take advantage of a population tendency at these stakes to bet turn wide as a bluff and for protection. I think all three options are viable on the turn so was interested in more opinions on what to consider when deciding between them.
River ($100.25) 3 T 2 9 5

Feb. 17, 2016 | 8:36 p.m.

Your analysis after the fact seems spot on to me. I dislike bluff catching as think fish rarely gets to this spot with many hands they would consider bluffing with.
I like a small bet here on the river as he can still have some 2 pair hands we can get value from.

Feb. 12, 2016 | 10:07 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: 50NL Tough Spot with our Range
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) SB: $50.25 (Hero)
BB: $67.32
UTG: $49.70
MP: $50.00
CO: $50.00
BN: $64.80
Opener is Tag running 22/19/ 7.3 and BB is a weaker player
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with K J
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BN folds, Hero calls $1.00, BB calls $0.75
Flat pre as villain in BB is a weaker player so think our hand is strong enough to defend
Flop ($3.75) Q 2 J
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, BB folds
No real debate on flop think check call is best way to proceed
Turn ($8.25) Q 2 J J
Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50
On turn I choose to lead as I think this card hits our range more and he also had a high flop cbet of 79% but this dropped to 36% on the turn.
River ($13.25) Q 2 J J Q
Hero checks, CO bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00
Bad river for our range as we never really lead any Qx hands on the river. We can play some draws like KT and 9T this way as well as Jx and 22. He can still have all his Qx hands as well as some draws and overpairs like KK/AA. Assuming this is the range we get to this spot with does bet folding using a smaller betsize make sense on the river as we mainly have medium value hands or should we be check calling sometimes in this spot as well?

Feb. 3, 2016 | 9:46 p.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: NL25 88 in 3bet pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $22.78
SB: $21.35
BB: $25.00 (Hero)
UTG: $24.65
MP: $37.29
CO: $44.42
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN calls $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.00, MP calls $2.25, BN calls $2.25
Pre I could just flat but villains were both passive and have a very wide range here so felt I could get value from squeezing.
Flop ($9.10) 3 7 6
Hero bets $4.50, MP folds, BN calls $4.50
Decent flop considering they both defend dont really like my sizing think it should be larger based on my reads. Anyone like x/shoving flop with this hand?
Turn ($18.10) 3 7 6 K
Hero checks, BN checks
Turn i dont think i get called by worse and we have just under pot so betting another sizing seems awkward. Felt he might perceive this as a scare card and shove with his draws.
River ($18.10) 3 7 6 K Q
Hero checks, BN bets $8.75, Hero folds
River was slightly confusing as he had not value bet thin on river before so I think that rules out qx and he would not turn pairs into a bluff. I thought Kx and his flush draws may shove turn so he suddenly represents quite a narrow range. Possibly overthinking what should be a very straight forward fold against passive opponent but was confused so thought I would post to get some more opinions.
Final Pot BN wins $17.29
Rake is $0.81

Jan. 21, 2016 | 10:22 p.m.

So I assume you would prefer using a hand like JT without diamonds as a 3 barrel instead in this spot

Jan. 15, 2016 | 9:32 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in NLHE: NL 25 3 Barrel in 3 bet Pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $121.36
SB: $33.37 (Hero)
BB: $48.79
UTG: $60.44
MP: $40.33
CO: $31.24
Early days but villain was opening wide on BTN and folding to three bets a decent amount
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with 7 9
3 folds, BN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, BN calls $1.65
Pre is close but justifiable based on above read I think
Flop ($5.25) Q K 5
Hero bets $2.50, BN calls $2.50
Good flop for our range and we have decent equity so standard barrel
Turn ($10.25) Q K 5 6
Hero bets $6.00, BN calls $6.00
Again good turn which gives us more outs so think betting again is correct
River ($22.25) Q K 5 6 4
Hero bets $22.37 and is all in, BN calls $22.37
On river we have the bottom of our range and can have all the nut hands on this run out so bluff seems fine from a GTO standpoint. However exploitably I think a lot of villains at this limit call with quite a narrow range on the turn so maybe we dont get enough folds on the river. Thoughts or am I overthinking this one?

Jan. 12, 2016 | 10:10 p.m.

Comment | foldnowpls commented on Hand vs tricky reg

Pre I would normally just fold even against someone who 3bets a lot.
Flop I don't mind the check I think you are right that most people don't check fold these boards often as pfr so you should either check now or fire multiple barrels.

Once you do check flop though I like the way you played turn and river though think you could mix up your play and occasionally raise turn as well.

Jan. 5, 2016 | 9:45 a.m.

Flop seems close between bet and check though may lean towards betting because of how passive so we are unlikely to get raised.

On turn think betting again is good as he can call with ax of pair and draw type hands but I would fold to the raise.

Don't think he shoves with worse and a lot of his diamond draws have a pair of some sdv as well and this type of villain is much more likely to just call again.

Jan. 4, 2016 | 11:31 a.m.

In hindsight outdated is not the best description but I found the chapters in post flop play very basic and certainly in online mtt's currently will be quite ineffective. I also think a lot of the preflop stuff does not cover a lot of the adjustments you can make.

For example there is a lot of emphasis on Nash shoving ranges but there are a lot of edges to be had not following these precisely and raise folding or making other exploitative plays instead.

Dec. 30, 2015 | 3:58 p.m.

Agree that we should be 4betting pre here most of the time as most regs will 3bet wide enough for us to get value and they are more likely to call a 4bet this deep.

Postflop on this texture there is no need to pot this flop but as played I would fold to this massive raise and not think too much of it.

Dec. 4, 2015 | 10:51 a.m.

Hand History | foldnowpls posted in MTT: 6 Max PSKO BVB
Blinds: t125/t250 (6 Players) BB: 5,568
UTG: 3,495
MP: 7,792
CO: 1,705
BN: 8,365
SB: 4,765 (Hero)
Just moved to a new table villain running 41/23 but sample is quite small.
Preflop (375) Hero is SB with A 8
4 folds, Hero calls 125, BB checks
Pre Im still unsure of best plan in a vacuum with these sorts of hands. I have started limping as BB can shove pretty wide in these situations and not much we can do to counteract it. Against unknowns it may be better to just raise fold until I know I am being exploited here though.
Flop (680) 4 K 5
Hero checks, BB checks
Flop is a weird spot as it likely hits neither of us but we never get anything better to fold and cant really barrel any turns with our hand so decided to check. Could be way off here though.
Turn (680) 4 K 5 K
Hero checks, BB bets 500, Hero folds
Turn again see no reason to bet once we check flop but when he bets this large I was somewhat confused. I think pocket pairs and good Kx raise pre and most of his air is likely to stab flop so I just decided to fold. Think I could have played differently on every street though so interested in any feedback.
Final Pot BB wins 680

Nov. 25, 2015 | 9:04 p.m.

Agree that just completing or making it bigger pre is best what's the reasoning behind betting larger on the flop? I made it small as I think most hands that fold against a cbet are pretty weak and so will fold regardless of the size.

Nov. 21, 2015 | 9:53 a.m.

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