Ok, i just added everyone that posted in this thread and few players who sent me pms. Just a couple of things, i want to mention, first off the title "official" is only used to diferentiate this "study group" thread from the other i made a little earlier, nothing more.
Second thing is i ve got offered a great NLH staking deal that i believe will boost my income significantly, therefore as much as i loved playing and learning PLO i will go back to play NLH 90 % of the time and therefore will not be verry active in the chan.
I will still be there to keep adding people and be used as a relais if any problems may come up, however if someone more involved want to take charge of the group just let me know.
Aug. 21, 2013 | 8:42 a.m.
I m a 31 years old frenchman leaving in Italy. I played poker professionaly for the past 7 years and i recently switched from NLH to PLO. I usualy plays 0.5/1 and 1/2 PLO. I m extremly motivated and aim to be one of the top PLO players on pokerstars.it!!
Aug. 16, 2013 | 10:27 a.m.
Following the unbelievable enthousiasm on my inovating idea to create a PLO study group for runitonce memebers, i decided to go forward with it. Introduce yourself in this thread first then sign up by leaving your skype contact here or by PM.
Given the competitive nature of poker nowadays and the few feedbacks i had on the other thread, i wish to state that this group aim to be fairly serious and dedicated to hard working members who wish to help each other in order to take their game to next level. So if you looking for a social club then you ve got the wrong adress althought good spirit and humour are more than welcome obv.
Just a few basic rules (feel free to propose more or propose to eliminate some if you feel that they are inapropriates)
1- Courtesy (if you disagree with someone no need to tell him that he s a fkn monkey and need to go back to his banana three, they are other ways!!)
2- Post your hands in links format using liquidpoker,weaktight etc...
3- Keep the badbeat stories, brags and bash to a minimum
4- Keep active and try to help as much as you get helped
5- Disparities in levels should be kept to a reasonable standard so i think for this group to be working more eficiently we should set a minimum limit level of 0.10/0.25PLO (up for debate)
6- And the less funny rule...if more than 2 members complain about your lack of respect for those rules then a vote should proceed and if 50% or more agree with the complaints you will be thanked for your participation.
One last thing about the name of the group, i used all my creative skills and came up with RUNITONCE PLO, but if anyone has anything else to propose, feel free to do so in this verry thread.
Aug. 16, 2013 | 10:24 a.m.
I m up for this, same here btw only looking for a serious group, so probably need a few rules and a good basis to try to make it as eficient as it can be, but given the comunity on run it once i m sure it will be fine . Let see if more members are interested then start this topic?
Aug. 14, 2013 | 7:53 a.m.
Here is the diference with my stats; I consider myself super tight oop yet i play almost double of hands in the SB and BB, your WTSD is 3% lower and your turn agg is much lower than mine. btw i m a std tag 25/17/af 4 with 8% 3bets. hope that help point out possible leaks, althought i m far from an expert and i would take this analogy with a giant grain of salt.
Aug. 13, 2013 | 9:33 a.m.
(@ 37.20) Don t want to be result oriented here but does the fact that the 3 bettor has 0% 3 bet over 145 hands change your analysis completely and we can now just fold? It seems fairly obvious to me but since you did not even considered it, i wonder if i m being to nitty here?
Aug. 10, 2013 | 6:26 a.m.
Great read and it conforted me in my decision to switch over, i m sure there is lot of regs who are still "erring" (as you say) in a lot of spots and the fact that i m a hard worker will probably help in the long term maybe even more efficiently than in NLHE. Tx for taking the time to reply.
July 15, 2013 | 10:12 a.m.
Would you think using a software like InsuredPlay would be a good think for a player who can t take big swing verry well or the number of x you go all inx by the fee o this kind of product is not compensating the pain and the B game that follow?? I use this currently for NLHE and pay around 1buy in of fee every month for around 80k hands, for me it worth it a lot even thought i ran 6k above EV since using it (lol), but the otherway around would kind of feeel devastating while the current result only bother me just slightly. But if we go 3x as much all in in PLO (number pulled out right from my ass) i obv don t think it worth it. Any thoughts on that ??
July 14, 2013 | 5:18 p.m.
I know this is an old thread, but since i m thinking more and more about playing PLO (snowie effect...). I was wondering how diferent the variance was from NLHE, i mean how different is the ratio between the ALL in EV and the coolers compare to this same ratio in NLHE?? In tuitively i would think the ALL in ev ratio compare to the coolers ratio is much greater in omaha compare to NLHE. Amirite, ?sorry for the bad english and hope i got myself understood.
July 14, 2013 | 4:03 p.m.
Tx James, definitly a great video and things to keep in mind when playing against a verry though oponent who use this strategy. However i think it would be foolish not to use a mix strategy by calling some of the weaker part of the top of our range against most oponents at small stakes and even midstakes , lot of times calling 3 bets oop with TT,JJ AQ is > foldin or 4bets. Seems totally counter intuitive to use this kind of hands in our 4bet folding range when we could use other garbage to to that (unless vilain calls a lot of 4bet obv). Yes our range is kind of face up but it still pretty strong (hard to exploit with weak ranges) and all we need is to overcome a -300/bb 100. I realise my long rant is not perfect GTO and not based solely on range vs range, but the smaller the 3 bets are the more i would aim for an explotative style over GTO unless those vilains are really really good.
May 3, 2013 | 9:50 a.m.
March 23, 2013 | 3:32 p.m.
btw I like how you played the AQhh early on.
50.10 top left (109$), was verry sceptical about your fold and the verry tight range you assign to vilain,
especially given how much you seems to 3 bet in those spot, but even after running number against (88+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+,KQo) the plays is only making a verry marginal profit, so i kinda like the argument that follows to justify fold.
Overall great vid, love this format
March 16, 2013 | 1:44 p.m.
Feb. 16, 2013 | 1:04 p.m.
On a side note and this is a matter of opinions but on the 88 hand, i think his river bet sizing is kind of telling and that he willl be pretty unbalance in this spot and weighted toward hands that you beat, and as good of a player as you can be it s always incredibly hard to fold river spot like this ingame when you get a mirrion to one even tought in insight you supose to always fold .