peter89
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90% of the time i'll check here till river ,what you think ?
stats : 25/19 / raise sb 38% . fold 3bet : 43% , wtsd was around 27%~
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SB: $57.75 (115.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $53.09 (106.2 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $124.22 (248.4 bb)
CO: $50.38 (100.8 bb)
BTN: $67.02 (134 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J
A
4 folds, SB raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $3.60
Flop: ($10) 9
5
3
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.34, SB calls $3.34
Turn: ($16.68) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.50, SB calls $9.50
River: ($35.68) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $35.25 and is all-in
March 18, 2016 | 4:10 p.m.
Thanks , you mean blockers as AK / KQ ? yeah.. i miss that ingame
March 17, 2016 | 9:09 a.m.
CO : 32/21 , CO OPEN 40% , fold to 3bet 20% ,
river bet 31 , fold to cbet 3bet pot 40% .
400hands
River odds 27% ,
if we add KQs (+4combos) we still have 31% ,if KQo then we behind . i'm not sure about KQo . If i have KQs or KQo or AKo as CO here , should i check it too on the turn ? if yes why ?
flopzilla : 
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Hero (SB): $129.17 (258.3 bb)
BB: $52.62 (105.2 bb)
UTG: $58.40 (116.8 bb)
MP: $12.53 (25.1 bb)
CO: $321.72 (643.4 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $7, BB folds, CO calls $5.50, BTN folds
Flop: ($16) 2 K 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8
Turn: ($32) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($32) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19
March 17, 2016 | 12:10 a.m.
41% equity vs AA,77,22,98s,54s , the problem is i don't think he gonna play SET like this or two pairs. vs 98s,54s we have 50% .
River i need 38% , so probably here is no FOLD . who agreed?
March 13, 2016 | 5:50 p.m.
CO : 1.6k hands , 19/17, co raise 26% , cbet OOP 38 /50 /50, river bet 34 , WTSD 24 WWSF 47
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SB: $137.53 (275.1 bb)
BB: $63.76 (127.5 bb)
UTG: $113.82 (227.6 bb)
MP: $46.60 (93.2 bb)
CO: $53.67 (107.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $177.08 (354.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 6
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.25) A 7 2 (2 players)
CO bets $2, Hero calls $2
Turn: ($7.25) 6 (2 players)
CO bets $9.34, Hero calls $9.34
River: ($25.93) T (2 players)
CO bets $41.08 and is all-in, Hero ??
March 13, 2016 | 7:31 a.m.
Found one guy , have 3k hands on him , maybe upswing but not sure . he have 33bb/100 for 3khands. but the weird thing he have 43 WWSF LOL
Also another guy who won for 4k hands . ands wwfs 52 . saw him on 200 zoom and 100 too .
Dec. 2, 2015 | 7:57 p.m.
I saw a lot of ppls open 17-20% from UTG . how profitable it is ? depends on skill ?
Dec. 2, 2015 | 6:36 p.m.
depends how he play , i dunno . But if so then yes
Dec. 2, 2015 | 6:35 p.m.
I think you can just mix it with x/r and donk bet . Depends on raiser open range and flops . Also here CO is nit i guess and maybe he cbet only with HAND when fish in pot ...then you have no FE and you need bluff turn + river = cost a lot of money . but he can fold on river with all his Top pairs. i think also depends on you , if you aggro maniac in his eyes and here is no flush on river ,he more likely call you..
Donk bet looks more ez to play i think ,he gonna fold all his air right now + you still have FE , you will not donk with trash vs TWO ppls in pot .
Not sure why you worry about balance on 50nl ? i mean just don't go crazy and dont BETbet bet only nuts
Dec. 2, 2015 | 6:26 p.m.
Looks like here is no value on river vs reg . Also if we add 99 then we are dead.
But i think flop bet and turn bet is good .
So probably bet/bet/ check/fold river?
Dec. 2, 2015 | 6:16 p.m.
hm a bit confused but i understand the idea , confused because in my exp when i play "equity style" no air bluffs and stuff , my redline go to WC . but i'm not sure..
I don't use global strategy.. If i know villain cbet XXX board 100% of the time i can call with anytwo and then take it on turn. You know what i mean? but not every time ofc...only where and when i'm sure about it .
Dec. 2, 2015 | 6:06 p.m.
So should we shove on low cards ? like 2 3 4 5 and 100% shove on high cards ?
Oct. 18, 2015 | 2:25 p.m.
why call for 4 outs is default ? vs check/raise
Oct. 18, 2015 | 2:17 p.m.
145 combos PRE(can be more) , we have blockers , since he getin only with 30-35 combos , 4bet is +EV situation vs 11% .
So we get around 12bb/100 for hand without any problems (if my calculations is right).
for me as low skill player its best ! because im 0 in postflop games...
Also in stove we have 52% vs 11% lol i thought AQ have more ..
Oct. 1, 2015 | 10:11 a.m.
you call river? problem is he can have 'cc' flush in his range too coz we dont know for sure if he bet it on flop (not 100% time but some time..) and what if he never bluff with 'dd' fd? but i think he should at least with some combos...but even then not sure if we have 30% , probably no?
About back raise Pre , i will do it with QJ/KQ/KJ/AJ/AK JJ+
I think AQ is strong vs his range since he have all broadway cards and Ax
but if i'm right your idea mean you can get money more ez from preflop ?
like i check calculator of 4b and we earn around 12bb/100 without postflop
And then the question is can we earn more if we call? Maybe but it will be a bit harder to play ...
and also i miss action that SB call... then yes probably its better 4b...
Every time i miss this things (kinda small things but they are not too small) when im playing..
Oct. 1, 2015 | 10:06 a.m.
BB : 24/21 3bet over 207h is 16% but i dont think so i turn it down to 11-12%(should be fair and i think so it right) and also MP open 25% .
I did some calculating and thinking how he will play and i assume :
11% ~ 145 comb
flop :
his bet range on flop i assume will be :
value: 32comb
semi bluff FD : 9comb , 6comb GS
(75comb) , if we remove some BDFD , his bet range around 58combs
check:
70(comb) Ax,high Broadway.
Turn : when he bet turn i think his range now :
14 combos : AdQd, KdQd, AdJd, KdJd, QdJd, AdTd, KdTd, QdTd, JdTd, Ad9d, Kd9d, Qd9d, Jd9d, Td9d (FD)
I'm not sure about broadway cards coz he can just cbet with it on flop(especially with BDFD) , we also can add TT-JJ?
23 combos if we add TT-JJ
river : 9combos of fd miss , 5 combos of Tx and also , 9 combos JJ-TT
and if he checking miss FD with Ax (3combos) and bluff with the rest + shove Tx and JJ-TT then we have only 30%
on river we need 32% . if he checking more than 3fd combos we dead here..
my thinking process right? Also i'm not sure about his range because as you can see player A ) can bluff with all FD's here then we are good to call , and player B) can check all miss FD because he assume i have overpairs here and will not fold(like 88+).
How should i train my thinking process/logic in spots like this ?
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SB: $81.43 (162.9 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $60.78 (121.6 bb)
MP: $122.60 (245.2 bb)
CO: $79.38 (158.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $65.81 (131.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB raises to $7.50, MP folds, Hero calls $6, SB folds
Flop: ($18) 5 3 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($18) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10
River: ($38) T (2 players)
BB bets $32.50 all in, hero ???
Oct. 1, 2015 | 3:08 a.m.
Steve Paul , wow thank you ! do you think its important to have 4bet call in formula ?
JJ+,ak,aks 40combos yeah maybe i miss it and about 9% 3bet i think a lot of zoom players have at least 9 and higher so thats why i put 9% (checked equilab 9.20% 122combos). and most of them go 5bet shove only with 40-46combos(TT+,AKo,s) and also i notice a lot of players call all broadway cards vs 4bet OOP(sb or bb) , talking about 50nl and kinda same on 100nl zoom a lot of 4bet calls if we check 100nl vs 50nl .
about google docs , i just copy it and working fine..
Sept. 29, 2015 | 7:17 p.m.
Good as always , can you explain thing about river bet ? like 20-30 no bluffs and 35-40 higher thin value and bluffs ?
Also question(standard and maybe a bit stupid) how you work on your game?
Sept. 29, 2015 | 1:44 p.m.
I will search formula with calls tomorrow ,because already spend 1hr about this one but obv it should take like 10mins and no more ( i had exp with that before ) but after year break im very slow as my brain. but if anyone want share some examples it will be great ..
Sept. 28, 2015 | 5:11 p.m.
Hi guys, let me know if i'm wrong .
4b EV :
50nl (blinds 0.25 / 0.50). we open(MP) 3bb($1.5) CO 3bet 9bb($4.5) , we 4bet 20bb($10) (pot 15,25)
Let's say his 3bet range is 9,06% (111combos) and 30combos(only value shove), to know what is 30 combos in % from his range we need
30 / 111 = 27%
73% of the time we get 4.5$ (his 3bet) + 0.75$ (blinds) + 1.5$ (our initial raise) = 6.75$
27% of the time we lose 10$(4bet)-1.5$(initial raise)= 8.5$
4BET EV = (Fold% * we get X$)-(Shove% * we lose X$) = 0.736,75 - 0.278.5 = 2,63$EV
few questions : did i miss something ? how to make formula in google excel where i can just put numbers? so next time i don't need spend a lot of time to calculate it or maybe you can recommend software for it ? CREV?
and can anyone share 5bet shove formula when we OOP? like BTN raise , we 3bet on SB , he 4bet and we shove .
Thank you.
Sept. 28, 2015 | 2:24 p.m.
Thank you guys and agreed about Q7 burning money ,i should go deeper in it to make call/3b range @ blinds. btw 15% linearly range have 56% vs btn range when he called 3b .(he open 60% , his fold to 3bet 50% ) so vs 30% we have 56% equity.
Sept. 27, 2015 | 1:04 p.m.
My question is how bad it is ? Should i bluff only with equity hands? like GS/BDFD etc... ? They also have 60% open on BTN and CO .
Can it be good exploit strategy cbet 50% turn and 55-60% turn(given math we need only 30% folds if we bet 50%) .vs players who open 60% and fold to 3bet is low like40- 50 % .
1)
Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $67.36 (134.7 bb)
UTG: $67.53 (135.1 bb)
MP: $85.68 (171.4 bb)
CO: $51.15 (102.3 bb)
BTN: $71.17 (142.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4, BB folds, BTN calls $2.75
Flop: ($8.50) 3 2 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4
Turn: ($16.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $9.50, BTN folds
2)
Hero (SB): $55.06 (110.1 bb)
BB: $34.75 (69.5 bb)
UTG: $49.50 (99 bb)
MP: $142.06 (284.1 bb)
CO: $199.90 (399.8 bb)
BTN: $17.88 (35.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 K
2 folds, CO raises to $1.14, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4, BB folds, CO calls $2.86
Flop: ($8.50) 8 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50
Turn: ($17.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, CO folds
3)
Hero (SB): $56.07 (112.1 bb)
BB: $111.81 (223.6 bb)
UTG: $60.16 (120.3 bb)
MP: $53.35 (106.7 bb)
CO: $75.25 (150.5 bb)
BTN: $93.63 (187.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 A
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, BB folds, BTN calls $3.50
Flop: ($10.50) 8 8 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.01, BTN calls $5.01
Turn: ($20.52) J (2 players)
Hero bets $12, BTN folds
Sept. 27, 2015 | 12:52 a.m.
vs 1 QQ,1 TdTh, 1 Js9s,1 9s8s, 1 AcQd we have 28% .but its impossible to say how many FD combos he have here coz i dont know . Maybe one then we have 18% , if two then 28%. so it just depends on player . then in vacuum its probably call since we bet. but given fact that he probably not cbeting sD value we need to check turn ?
Sept. 26, 2015 | 10:29 a.m.
anyone ? help please!
Sept. 25, 2015 | 11:24 p.m.
I was thinking few days about it and what if he will not cbet his SD value range , so only Good hands like TPTK,set's , two pairs . and some % of combos he will put in x/shove range? because it looks like Flush draw ? for example 1 combo QQ/2 TT and maybe 3 AQo(6 combos aq in total) . and maybe 1-2 combos FD? even vs that range i have only 20-25% . and yes as you said before he probably bet all FD because he should know that this FLOP is good for my range and im probably not folding Qx . so thats why he can easy put some nuts/strong combos in x/shove range? sorry for bad english!
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March 25, 2016 | 6:16 p.m.