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Post | zagarese posted in Courses Forum: Pro Poker Tools Hand Rankings

I would like some clarity on what Pro Poker Tools hand rankings mean.

I know it's addressed in some other threads but I'd like to focus on just that here.

The basic question is how or does the hand ranking correspond to a percentile strength for the hand?

For example, KhTd7s2s is cited buy Emty as a fold in the BB defense vs SB portion of the course This is a spot where one should (GTO baseline should :)) defend 56.6% of the time.

KhTd7s2s is ranked 81 in the 6 handed iterative.

KhTd7s4s is ranked 52 in the 6 handed iterative.

Does KhTd7s4s become a defend?

And if that is all true (ignoring nuances) this suddenly sounds like a fun over/under betting game.

April 19, 2021 | 5:38 p.m.

Comment | zagarese commented on How do you study?

I study in a very similar way to this but I also, where appropriate, build a google sheet on the numbers on the lesson.

For example, with cold calling in position I looked at the gto baseline as taught, compared it to my actual historical record and found two extremes:

I have called 7.15% MP vs EP which is way more than the GTO baseline of 4%. The sample size is not great but drilling down into the actual hands I've found a lot of QQxx that I should have been folding and a few other things. That becomes a heuristic for me to fold QQxx more often when it's marginal in that spot.

I'm also intending to build a HUD for each lesson and then do a focus session using only that HUD. I haven't tried this yet but I think it might be valuable.

For example, for Cold Calling in position, in that video at minute 13:34 I would build a HUD that shows only RFI by position and VPIP. No 3bet data, etc.

April 19, 2021 | 5:20 p.m.

Comment | zagarese commented on course study group

Am interested. Discord or here I don't mind.

April 19, 2021 | 5:07 p.m.

Comment | zagarese commented on Logic check


March 27, 2020 | 6:01 p.m.

Comment | zagarese commented on Logic check

Thank you for the answers.

I would love to see a HU solver solution.

My question, more clearly, is while I folded this and based strictly on hand strength vs a random hand this is a fold, is this a defend against this specific player.

March 25, 2020 | 12:46 a.m.

Post | zagarese posted in PLO: Logic check

This is not intended as a hand history. This is the first hand in a $1 PLO HU sit and go on 888/Pacific. I am planning to go through every hand in the sit and go and make decisions about what I should or should not have done at the time.

I have great difficulty figuring out if I'm right or wrong or more accurately, when I am right or wrong. I also have great difficulty figuring out if I am running bad or playing bad. So I'm going to go through these and try to understand every point along the way.

I would like criticism of my after-the-fact thinking here. The stats below are taken from HM2 and are for the entire sng. I would not actually have know these things about the player on hand #1.


a 42 88 52 33.3 22
z 42 48 17 18.2 100

888poker Hand History for Game 927392032
$10/$20 Blinds Pot Limit Omaha - * 23 07 2017 14:10:41
Tournament #106737628 $0.92 + $0.08 - Table #1 2 Max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: a ( $940 )
Seat 9: z ( $1,060 )
a posts small blind [$10]
z posts big blind [$20]
* Dealing down cards *
Dealt to z [ 7d, Tc, 5h, 3h ]
a raises [$40]
z folds
* Summary *
a did not show his hand
a collected [ $40 ]

My thinking:

A raises the button to 50 at blind level 10/20. So raises to 2.5 BB

Z folds 7dTc5h3h

Minimum defense frequency (MDF) describes the portion of your range that you must continue with when facing a bet in order to remain unexploitable by bluffs.

MDF = pot size/(pot size+ bet size)

Z should be defending with 37.5% of hands. (30/(30+50)*100)

ProPoker tools ranks this hand (7dTc5h3h) as 85% vs a random hand. AAJT is ranked 1.13 % so the 85% must mean it's bad - way down the list.

Based on that this is correctly a fold.

Propoker tools has this hand vs a 52% pre flop raising range as having 40.40% equity. Against that range this should be a defend.

March 3, 2020 | 7:32 p.m.

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