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Demondoink Appreciate the reply as well.

Vaccine Requirements - These are not in place for anything outside of a few select public health positions (working with immune compromised patients, etc). I got two vax doses but did not receive any boosters and this is not a concern at all for me if I leave poker.

Free Speech / C16 - These are the spots gender identity were added to the constitutional amendment:

First: It was added to the Canadian Human Rights Act, joining a list of identifiable groups that are protected from discrimination. These groups include age, race, sex, religion and disability, among others.

Second: It was added to a section of the Criminal Code that targets hate speech — defined as advocating genocide and the public incitement of hatred — where it joins other identifiable groups.

Third: It was added to a section of the Criminal Code dealing with sentencing for hate crimes. If there’s evidence that an offence is motivated by bias, prejudice or hate, it can be taken into account by the courts during sentencing.

So I guess personal preference about finding any of these objectionable but this does not happen:

"Personally I think it's ludicrous to get jailed or indeed receive a big fine for words that you have said. If you are threatening someone or inciting violence then of course, this is completely different. But to criminalize 'hate' (who on earth is morally superior enough to even define what is hate and what isn't?) is Orwellian imo."

It is only considered hate speech when it is inciting violence or threatening (or discrimination in tangible way).

I do appreciate that you gave a full reply because you clearly have well thought out views. It just frustrates me as a Canadian to hear the right-wing talking points (and the "centrist" views you talked about are all coming from Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Douglas Murray, the Weinsteins, etc etc etc, so maybe you don't define this as right wing) infecting the conclusions/views of smart folks in other countries.

I don't mean to offer criticism of your conclusions so much as challenge some of the underlying assumptions. I will say that there are a few very good reasons not to move here, but I'd argue they center around cost of living (especially housing).

Happy to continue this over discord if you'd like, or just kill it here if you've made up your mind on Canada as an option. Cheers

April 11, 2024 | 6:18 p.m.

"I always liked the idea of moving to Canada, as I really like the people there and it's a really nice, scenic country too. But Trudeau is a nut job and their laws are even worse than ours- so unfortunately that is off the table."

Curious what laws you think would affect you if you moved to Canada.

Trudeau has become a weird talking point for right-wing US media, but in Canada there has been very little change (if any) for 99% of people from the past administrations.

April 3, 2024 | 11:56 p.m.

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