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Can anyone math inclined tell me what a +1bb out of every turn bet that followed a bet and a call on the flop mean in terms of bb/100?
More exactly +1bb out of every 30bb+ POT. I don't know math formulae. My reasoning was as follows:
Vpip 25, flop is like 25% to go to the turn maybe, bet-calls + c-calls? then you got 44% barrel so 11% of the time out of 25% of 100 hands is 2.75 hands. And i figure you win about half of those. So 1.3 out of every 100 hands you lose 1-2 more bb?
Thanks in advance!

Oct. 11, 2021 | 12:08 a.m.

Hey Sauce! If you'd like to make some assumptions on a series of paired boards for example 664, 775, 884, 998, 996, how would you create a general strategy with a group of hands and what would you consider relevant to create separate rules for? for example on 775r, an overpair +gutshot might be bet 50%, 65% with nut oesd and 80% with 2nd nut oesd, but the percentages would slightly differ if the board were 776 or 997. Also (again on 775r) do you do stuff like - run through all groups of hands without 2 bdoor fdraws or a 5, then rerun them again with to see if they are relevant blockers/added equity?

Dec. 18, 2019 | 6:11 a.m.

Left out a tiny itsy bitsy detail out :D - PLO

Dec. 13, 2018 | 12:45 p.m.

It would be nice to know for psychological reasons, perceiving 30 stacks lost as 15 turns from downswing to normal day.

Dec. 11, 2018 | 6:12 p.m.

Hi! I was wondering if you have the same winrate short stack as deep stack, do you require the same amount of buying for broll management or should you half it for ss?

Dec. 11, 2018 | 3:36 p.m.

So no, you can't.. unless you're some poker prodigy which i ain't. Oh well, farewell pokerstar dream.

Jan. 16, 2015 | 10:38 a.m.

How are the games looking from last year if you don't mind? :D

Jan. 15, 2015 | 11:47 p.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in Chatter: Can you run it up in anymore?

Given the rake changes, players getting better, idk, economy crumbling... is starting online poker with let's say some medium knowledge even worth trying? Or the best you could do is end up with about the same money you make from an above average job and no pension? I mean can you actually build a sizeable bankroll and is it wise to try and do it? Watched joeingram and the biggest winner according to him was +500k and a ton of awesome players were losing.

Jan. 15, 2015 | 11:23 p.m.

I was thinking if I potted turn I would need to call any river except hearts and I guess I didn't want to do that... he was completely unknown

Jan. 15, 2015 | 9:56 a.m.

Are you trying to make a nice graph 1 tabling 25 zoom by any chance? :D

Jan. 14, 2015 | 11:25 p.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in PLO: Horrible river 50 hu plo

Jan. 14, 2015 | 4:11 p.m.

You're definitely playing the wrong game mate :D You can get this multiple times in a day.

Jan. 14, 2015 | 12:34 a.m.

c/f, imo doesn't feel all that difficult, maybe you were just attached to the pot :P nobody is really folding AA here since they block A3 and your cold calling range contains more 5678+ than 63* A3*

Jan. 10, 2015 | 6:27 a.m. initial 3bettor is unknown, hj is a fish
is donk potting the better play?? Or the risk of running into AAdd or AQ+dd is too big?

Jan. 7, 2015 | 1:06 a.m.

Thanks for taking the time to make me a tougher player for free :P

Jan. 6, 2015 | 6:04 a.m. turn???? yeah I know my flop raise size is bad I was madly tilted
My instinct was to checkfold but my hand was too fast

Jan. 6, 2015 | 12:14 a.m.

Erm... no HH sorry but simple enough hand
I open JJ44ds HJ, unknown calls from CO, nit squeezes btn I call CO calls flop is T75r with 1 of my backdoor flushdraws, I check, CO pots with 2x effective SPR, nit folds Hero ?

Dec. 23, 2014 | 5:33 p.m.

Or you can always c/c c/c c/jam cards smaller than a ten and hope he doesn't have AT quads or a big heart. But without a fish there's no way you're making money with this hand from sb.

Dec. 22, 2014 | 1:09 p.m.

don't think you should 3bet these junk kings unless he's really bad and passive postflop, you can either bet like 33-45% or whatever is gto in this spot or bet larger and just use your brain to calculate x amount on flop + x amount on turn = potsize on river

Dec. 20, 2014 | 4:28 p.m.

Comment | JerryZRivii commented on 400bbs deep 25 PLO yeah flop call... was playing from bed and couldn't be bothered. I hate money.

Dec. 20, 2014 | 4:19 p.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in Chatter: no stop button from plo

I didn't feel like playing, killed it last 3 days and felt I was in for some massive sucking outs but I did start playing and soon enough they would start turning top sets on disguised bricks and fulls even when I flopped quads, not that I minded that one and after 4k hands I found myself 100bbs short of breaking even on ev line, I was down like 1000 on green but I don't care about that one. So even though I had a fever, hadn't eaten in like 10 hours, was awake for 18 and was running unimaginably bad I just couldn't stop playing. And that stupid cough wouldn't stop, IT JUST WOULDN'T STOP! Every single surprise i was shown had to come together with a spasm that would knock me out my fkin chair. Ended up playing 3 more hours, dumped about 200bbs from tilt and finally closed poker stars from the X button. Anyone else has this problem? I've got 0 problems stopping when I crush. :| And just now I realize that I slept 5 hours and think about playing again.

Dec. 19, 2014 | 3:59 a.m.

Comment | JerryZRivii commented on 25 plo cooler?

Thanks for reply, felt I was gonna get shown JJ quite a bit and maybe should've called turn and fold on blanks and 2s and 6es and call straight J 9 but seemed really stupid and was pretty tilted this sesh.

Dec. 19, 2014 | 2:57 a.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in PLO: PLO 25 autocall river? it sucks that I block the lower part of his club+ str draw and not the KK and A high clubs which aren't as likely to turn showdown value into bluffs nor just call flop. And what do you guys think about turn betsize?

Dec. 19, 2014 | 2:55 a.m. no reads, no hud, I was like, if you have aces why not bet bigger and win a bigger pot against 2x t2 tt by the river, stuff that anyways just calls on blanks except maybe the case ace if you hit quads and well if you have AT by the turn, there's 0 point in giving up so many draws and I blocked AT + diamonds and well A2 wants value from AK and so on.

Dec. 19, 2014 | 2:48 a.m. he bet in like 5 secs on the river

Dec. 19, 2014 | 2:45 a.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in PLO: 25 plo cooler? did I do anything wrong? besides questionable preflop

Dec. 18, 2014 | 10:04 p.m.

Comment | JerryZRivii commented on 400bbs deep 25 PLO

So no bluffing in plo 25?

Dec. 18, 2014 | 11:56 a.m. 50 zoom he was playing 18/16 but opening 57% from the btn, is that even possible? fold to cbet 50% and I folded, I regret it a lot but had no timebank, he's representing KQ and K8 exclusively right, QQ should only call? But the idea of gii 120bbs drawing almost dead didn't seem that Or should I just call and let him realize his equity with JTQ + clubs, only 13 outs but still..

Dec. 18, 2014 | 2:02 a.m.

I like c/r turn

Dec. 18, 2014 | 1:55 a.m.

Post | JerryZRivii posted in PLO: 400bbs deep 25 PLO
My plan was to float twice and shove river, the squeezer was 16/9 and the UTG player 28/18 so I figured the squeezer is auto folding turns and any competent player would read my hand as QQ by the river, nobody is retarded enough to try this out at these stakes and it is zoom so main villain would view me as random unknown reg with 335 hands, if he even has a hud. I think there's quite a decent chance the queen river convinced him i've got a worse 4 (even though i never do in this particular case against that betsize) so... do you think he would've shoved blanks or was he check folding without and maybe even with boat? Or is it just a dumb idea to try dumb stuff like this even against "regs"?

Dec. 17, 2014 | 10:39 a.m.

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