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Any tips or materials you'd recommend for live PLO? I've just started with PLO very recently and I'm hoping it plays similarly to 10 nl, where it has been super easy stacking worse hands

Eg I found Aesah's old posts on 2p2 to be helpful and am going through the content available for micros here, Galfond and Nick Johnson both have some training videos on PLO micros

Jan. 10, 2019 | 3:59 p.m.

Great to have some recent micro/live-player pool PLO content. Also found your 3 part intro series on PLO to be valuable. Are there additional resources you'd recommend?

Jan. 10, 2019 | 12:09 a.m.

I found these ranges to be very helpful when I was focused on MTTs. Are there any similarly well constructed ranges you can point to for limpy/weak pool cash games (similar tendencies to live)?

Dec. 29, 2018 | 7:01 p.m.

Looking for a quality set of preflop ranges (opening vs limpers, overlimping, overcalling, bb/sb defending) for full ring games that are similar to live with lots of limpers

As an example of why standard ranges aren't suitable, suited connectors aren't great when you have limited fold equity and you don't need board coverage because no one will notice. On the other hand, suited aces are more valuable given the highly multiway pots and implied odds

There have gotta be some solid ranges for this out there

Dec. 29, 2018 | 5:46 a.m.

Thanks for your response. Any training materials you could recommend on crushing these types of live player pools (lots of limping/calling, some maniacs, little risk of being exploited)?

Dec. 17, 2018 | 4:24 p.m.

Right, I misspoke, 3 bb open raise with multiple callers and we're in position. Thanks for correcting me

Overlimping and overcalling ranges for these sorts of pools

Dec. 16, 2018 | 9:45 p.m.

Thanks for the response

I'm trying to figure out just how loose I can profitably overlimp in these live player pool types of situations - any ranges you'd suggest?

I was used to playing TAG on ACR and I wouldn't even begin to consider Qxs limping in there haha; live type players are just a different animal

Dec. 16, 2018 | 7:23 p.m.

Post | discr3tion posted in NLHE: Optimizing combo draws

Playing on Global (similar player pool tendencies to live). Thinking through semi-bluff raising vs calling in different spots. One consideration is that people rarely bet fold in this player pool so fold equity is low. For the same reason, our implied odds are good

Global doesn't allow HUDs so I have to share links to their replayer:



Separately, I'm figuring out just how loose to limp/call along pre on Global/live. A couple strategies from Jonanthan Little for live games that I've found to work well are to limp along with suited hands and occasionally make pot sized raises with offsuit junk in position over all of the limpers. I was starting to possibly over-adjust, limping too much suited junk, and now I'm thinking mainly to limp Jx+s, SCs, s gappers, after other limpers

Dec. 16, 2018 | 6:29 a.m.

Those are a lot of the key stats to keep an eye on. Some other key ones are x/r and bet when missed cbet frequencies across streets. Here's a good albeit really old article on the topic: https://dissectingpoker.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/the-thin-red-line-episode-1/

Feel free to jump into our study group discord; we were actually just talking about some of these stats the other day: https://discord.gg/HxFaHs4

Nov. 21, 2018 | 4:55 p.m.

In addition to stats, be sure to take notes on people when they make questionable plays. Once you have a confirmed bad player, give them a color marking; then you can see which tables have the most players with that marking.

This way you already know how you're going to exploit people when you jump into a good table

Also, there are a lot of very exploitable players who are just following preflop charts so their vpip/pfr stats look solid but their postflop frequencies are out of whack

Nov. 21, 2018 | 6:42 a.m.

The one preflop stat that has helped my game by keeping track of it and working on it has been 3bet%. Getting it up to 9% has basically printed money. It also helps keep me in check so I don't go overboard

I know on Hold em Manager they color code folks' frequencies - e.g., orange is kind of the sweet spot; red is generally too tight; and green is generally too lose

Other than that, I recommend Lacriola's preflop video on taking each decision as it comes based on the tendencies of the players at your table rather than focusing on following a chart or playing some specific frequency, which just can't factor everything in

Nov. 12, 2018 | 1:23 a.m.

Just realized I hadn't mentioned that this is a FR table (now I've edited OP)

My PFR for MP is 15%

Nov. 10, 2018 | 2:45 p.m.

Right, and opening from EP no less, then facing the 3bet. So you would suggest folding pre in this scenario?

Nov. 10, 2018 | 6:40 a.m.

Thanks for the reply. I actually bumped up my open raising size from 2.5x to 4x based on Galfond's suggestion in a recent video review of a low stakes NLHE player of avoiding rake by raising to 4x to take down more pots pre

Nov. 10, 2018 | 6:20 a.m.

Strong analysis - appreciated

Nov. 9, 2018 | 11:11 p.m.

Figuring out where I should have raised or donk'd here to try to get more value:

$5 NL full ring
Hero is in BB
UTG with VP of 59, PF of 9 min raises
CO with VP of 17, PF of 11 calls
Hero calls with KsQd

Flop of JsTh9s; pot of 35c
Checks to CO who bets 25c
Hero calls
UTG calls

Turn is Kd; pot of $1.10
Checks to UTG who bets 57c, call, call

River is a brick, 2c; pot of $2.81
Hero plans to check raise river but it checks through
UTG shows Kh8d (interesting line by this one :P) and CO mucks

Nov. 9, 2018 | 10:25 p.m.

I found Lacriola's preflop videos to be useful. Charts can be helpful to get started; however, there are too many different dynamic factors for charts to be very effective: targeting weak players IP; effective stack depth; bet size; RFI's range and stats on players left to act/squeezing tendencies

Nov. 9, 2018 | 9:51 p.m.

OOP: Hero is utg+2 and opponent is lojack

Nov. 9, 2018 | 1:49 p.m.

Post | discr3tion posted in NLHE: Study group discord

There was more interest than organization in a low/mid stakes NLHE study group, so created a new Discord server

Here is the invite link: https://discord.gg/jmJHyaZ

Update: really happy with our progress. About 10 active members so far working on hand analyses, sweat sessions, and having a good time chatting in general

Nov. 9, 2018 | 4:51 a.m.

Haven't heard back so I made a Discord server: https://discord.gg/kBzrDp

Anyone can feel free to join and hopefully we can get some regular chats going

Nov. 9, 2018 | 3:10 a.m.

$10 NLHE full ring

Seat 8 is the button
Seat 3: Hero ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 5: Player5 ( $20.26 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 0.5, Hands: 112
Player9 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
* Dealing down cards *
Dealt to Hero [ Qs As ]
Hero raises [$0.40 USD]
Player5 raises [$1.40 USD] - villain has 7% 3bet frequency and 3bet with AJo prior hand
Hero calls [$1.00 USD]
* Dealing Flop * [ Js, 8d, Ah ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [$1.35 USD]
Hero calls [$1.35 USD]
* Dealing Turn * [ Ad ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [$3.30 USD]
Hero calls [$3.30 USD]
* Dealing River * [ 2d ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [$4.00 USD]
Hero calls [$3.95 USD]
Player5 wins $0.05 USD
Hero shows [Qs, As ]
Player5 wins $19.15 USD from main pot
Player5 shows [Kc, Ac]

Acceptable cooler or at what point should I have gotten out of the hand?

Nov. 9, 2018 | 3:06 a.m.

Thanks, man! That's helpful. Would you mind elaborating on why we would bet all our range with small sizing / players in lower stakes not being able to adapt

Would you have put a small bet out on the turn as well or check/fold?

Oct. 31, 2018 | 5:02 a.m.

Oct. 28, 2018 | 11:30 p.m.

Post | discr3tion posted in MTT: First hand posting :-)

Enjoying the training videos on RIO and thought I'd try posting a hand where I screwed up:

Turbo MTT, 9max on ACR

Blinds 10/20
Lowjack: Hero ( 1570 / 79 BB)
Cutoff: Player4 ( 1420 / 71 BB) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 5, Hands: 19
SB: Player6 ( 1510 / 76 BB) - VPIP: 53, PFR: 16, Hands: 19

Dealt to Hero [ Ah 9d ]
Hero raises [50]
Player4 calls [50]
Player6 calls [40]

* Dealing Flop * [ Td, Ac, Kd ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [128] - Given how hard this hits the preflop raiser's range, going to see much of villain's range fold to a bet here. 3/4 pot cbet for value and hand protection with top pair weak kicker v flush draws, gutshots, lower pairs/kickers
Player4 raises [256]
Player6 folds
Hero calls [128] - I feel like an idiot for not folding here. If I call down here, I can't continue through future streets. Hands 2x raising here are made hands looking to protect against the flush draw. No worse hands are raising for value here; semibluffs can just float and bluff on a future street and if they were to bluff the flop, then they would make a larger raise

* Dealing Turn * [ Tc ]
Hero checks
Player4 bets [341]
Hero calls [341] - This call doesn't make sense in hindsight but I must have been thinking that Villain had more semibluffs in his range than made hands

* Dealing River * [ 7d ]
Hero checks - I don't think I should have gotten into this situation, however, given that I did, is this a shove on the scare card? Or just check/fold
Player4 bets [773]
Hero calls [773] - one of the worst calls I've made since getting back into the game
Player4 shows [Qs, Js] for the flopped straight

It was actually helpful just writing this out... too bad there isn't this more time in game to really think everything through

Oct. 28, 2018 | 10:16 p.m.

Really helpful and especially appreciate the exercises

Oct. 22, 2018 | 4:40 a.m.

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