gee... easy call. thanks!
Aug. 19, 2019 | 7:15 a.m.
48:45 Wondering what size river bet you'd consider calling here with third pair? Agree a J checks turn often but might also check river whereas a bet, check, bet line could be a couple of stabs no? I think a K often bets flop turn and checks river rather than bet flop and river. If there were more draws that missed would you give this more consideration of a call? Guess you block QT/AT/T9... hmmm. Without a T, maybe with a 67/68 hand, is that more worthy of a call?
Aug. 17, 2019 | 4:03 a.m.
Hey Pedro Madeira enjoying this series... particularly the idea of expanding value shove ranges and also expanding calling off ranges in PKO's. However, I did have a question at 24:10 - calling off 54BB with KJo. Man that seems loose. I get that (i) you have chance to pick up two bounties (ii) your stack is over 100BB stack (iii) if you lost you'd cover everyone but the guy to your immediate right (much better than doubling up someone to your left).
However, overall a flip is pretty much best case scenario isn't it? Going to be dominated often enough by AK, KQ, JJ+ that this is not a terrific spot for that price. Would seem really bad for the 54BB stack to shove all in with KT, QJ, JT. Thats about all you ahead of. I think more likely he has AQ, AT than any of those 4 hands. Much more likely again that he has AK, 99+. I guess you have been in this spot often enough to warrant call but wondering if you could show if it is close or easy call.
By comparison to the KJo hand for 54BB's both of the QTo hands seemed easy calls for 15-20BBs when you had 100-130BBs. You had more chips and it was much less to call. Really looking forward to seeing you work through this -all of the 13 hands you marked for review actually!
Thanks again for great series!
PS That phrase you couldn't quite get in the moment: I think its "Chips lost are worth more than chips won" - i.e. diminishing value of chips but how do we apply that in PKO's when we also widening our ranges?
Aug. 17, 2019 | 2:32 a.m.
Hey Pedro Madeira at 13:20 you'd call off last 10BB with T9o if folded to SB and he jams into you. Isn't that pretty close? Given its 9 handed, can't we wait for a better spot? Or is it likely with little FE our jam in a few hands might get called by 2 players? Something specific about this opponent shoving too wide in this spot? Or is it simply a vacuum call?
Aug. 17, 2019 | 1:11 a.m.
At 10:30 flatting A9 on 9 high board is a bit risky isn't? Any over card, except A, is awkward. You have 40BB, the SPR is 3-1. I'm wondering if larger stack size is better to slow play with this hand? I understand you inducing bluffs but wondering if a top pair of J+ might be better?
Aug. 17, 2019 | 12:33 a.m.
Hey Pedro Madeira , at 5:25mins, you don't discuss flatting 55 only 3betting or folding. Wondering why the flat call is not considered... too likely someone squeeze? If you flatted and one of the stacks to your immediate left (both under 20BB) jammed (and opener folded) then how would you proceed? The pot would have 25BB and you'd have to call 16.5BB. With your stack size seems an option(?). Also, what are your thoughts on occasionally flatting AA,KK here hoping for a squeeze? What conditions would make flatting a monster a good/bad idea?
Aug. 17, 2019 | 12:10 a.m.
Hey mate at 41:15 with 54o in SB v MP jamming 2.15 and BB having 7BB can you show why its a fold in a PKO. You have almost 22BB. It's only 1.65BB to call (pot has 3.65BB). I realise a BB jam would be horrendous but even calling that and losing wouldn't change the amount of opponents that you cover.
PS I'm not actually sure how much either bounty is worth. Doesn't that affect things significantly?
Aug. 16, 2019 | 6:29 a.m.
Hey Owen at 25:30 you have AQo on the button and talk about c-betting K87r... doesn't that board hit opp range better?
PS I wondered the same thing as JemLaBeatLOL re calling off 20BB with KQs given it was the first shove by opp. If he'd been open jamming a bit its different situ.
Thanks for the 55 ICM spot analysis.
Also in response to your request for feedback re final table: I am wondering if there are significant hands between other players that might be worth discussing. That would affect how you think about those players and how you play hands against them. It's always worthwhile to observe opponents... make notes etc
Aug. 15, 2019 | 12:25 p.m.
Thanks for the reply, I'll have another look, think about it some more.
No, board is A98 A 4 and goes check down
Ax is a clear check raise for value like 9x
I think we agree on this first point(?) but said it differently... our check induces a bet (me: opp either bluffs or bets a 9/8/4) which we raise (you: for value). I think most of our opponents see our line as a little odd, i.e. a bluff raise after we check/check/check raise and so they call off with a 9/8/4.
clear check raise for value like 9x Maybe K9/Q9 is a check raise but It's not terrible to check call with a 9, is it? How many worse hands call a check raise on this board? All 9's, most 8s, some 4's, some 77,66,55? (though these seem unlikely). Would be ugly to get jammed when we hold T9 for example. I mean it's possible our opponent slow played an Ace when we hold a 9(?)... less likely ip player slow play, but does happen. Pretty common for op player to lead turn if ip checks flop.
I don't play much heads up except against one friend, can't play online where i live. Don't play a lot of NLHE cash either actually. I play any tournaments/PLO Cash.
Aug. 15, 2019 | 9:41 a.m.
Totally agree with your final point re taking notes. I read this once many years ago and memorised it: "Writing is a neuromuscular activity that aids retention". Think same might be true of underlining things we read.
Aug. 13, 2019 | 9:04 a.m.
Hey Owen, I noticed re the KQs hand and the TT hand that you didn't go into odds to call. First hand it was getting close-ish to 2-1 and the second hand was 1.5-1
The first hand is a good price but position no good, too many to act behind. The second hand you close the action. Also neither hand would have resulted in a bust out if you lost. Isn't that a tournament consideration?
(I snap the TT in a cash game)
In a tournament I think it through a bit more (and still call). Maybe sigh call if he's tight but theres still more big A's in his range than pairs. I know many tight players that would ship 77+ in this spot. If price is down around 1.25-1 then a fold is more prudent against a tight player.
Is it because effectively solver took the odds into account that you didn't go over it? I play live (not in online jurisdiction) so am used to making these calcs myself.
Aug. 13, 2019 | 8:52 a.m.
I agree with more content on shove fold ranges by position and stack sizes. There may be some vids already. Hopefully essential, this sounds like essential stuff. A lot of it should be second nature but i haven't learnt them yet. How & when do we tweak these a little - ie bubble, opponent tendencies, table dynamics (stack sizes), icm, game flow etc
Aug. 13, 2019 | 8:40 a.m.
JJ no spade on a T62 high mono flop is a 98% c/f on the turn (offsuit 3). that surprised me... but i guess opponents range in 3bet pot supposed to be a high freq of two overs and a fd (15 outs) plus made flush, TTT, JJ+, maybe some low freq AT, 99, maybe sc some other suit or AK/AQ no fd that is dbl barrel bluffing. I guess we're not doing too well against that range.
so... when we ip we dbl barrel this spot with atc?
How different is this spot if its not a 3bet pot?
Aug. 13, 2019 | 6:02 a.m.
in addition to 98 being a weak bluff, as you mentioned, because over cards to J like KQ are better, couldn't 98 be bad bluff because in addition to hitting a 9 or 8 make us lower full, but also if we hit a Q to make a straight we lose to a QJ, KQ, AQ full house.
Aug. 13, 2019 | 4:39 a.m.
I was surprised that the A4o hand was a high frequency call. Is that because solver figures op player has whiffed str draw most of the time? Which we unblock. Or maybe that he is bluffing one pair, naked Ks?
Interesting idea, glad to hear it, that solver play needs to be considered against populations we play in.
Aug. 13, 2019 | 3:51 a.m.
A6 A7 blocks the semi bluff hands. Given opponent didn't bet flop or turn it seems unlikely opponent has a 76, T7 type hand. Ideally opponent has a 9, 8 or K high.
A6 A7 block value hands like 97, 96, 87, 86, 74, 64 so I guess betting A6 A7 is for purpose of getting K high, Q high to call? These hand likely check behind on river.
We check the A2 A3 hands to induce a bluff or incentivise a 9 or 8 (or maybe even a 4) to lead river. If we check raise it looks like a bluff raise given we checked flop and turn.
Aug. 13, 2019 | 3:22 a.m.
agree about the live games with commentary, thought processes in the moment, are great. i guess i also agree re live cash, NLHE and PLO (but MTT's my fav form of poker). living in a place where we can't play online really blows... can only watch so many vids with huds.
i'm also wondering if some kind of quiz format vids might be useful. we get dealt xx in pos y, there may or may not be an open in front, do we A or B or C? the flop is xxx, do we A or B or C.... etc
Aug. 12, 2019 | 5:04 a.m.
More live play MTT esp (NLHE main events; and PLO) vids would be great for those who can't play online. I mean there is so much online content... I skip a ton of it. Don't think I can justify elite membership without more live content.
Aug. 11, 2019 | 4:40 a.m.
i like raising more pf when antes.
c/c flop/lead turn always interesting... i need to do some work on that. any vids or forum discussion ppl can recommend?
runout much better for BB range. believe it or not i think solvers advocate for checking behind sometimes here, ie on low connected board (which is counter intuitive).
Aug. 10, 2019 | 8:10 a.m.
9 handed? how much does hero cover? how active is MP1? Can you tell us anything about MP1? (third level already? pick up anything?)
Mostly call with AA, KK, AK. Sometimes raise those. Always call with TT, and prob 99.
Raise QQ - sigh tank with AQo (fold), Call w AQs, JJ
88... is awkward. Set mining in this spot: 1,000 to call w 7,500 behind. Not right price but your UTG raise might not mean a whole lot in future... meta game considerations?Consider limp calling pf w 88? If flop comes 7 high getting 180bb in w 88 isn't great... either leading flop and getting jammed or c/r flop and getting snapped.
Aug. 10, 2019 | 7:45 a.m.
I much prefer to complete for 100 and try get a full double up (or win a big pot with 888) rather than risk getting 4bet off this hand by BB or either limper. A set here would be a disguised hand which is great, more likely to get paid off. tid pre flop, gaining 700chips doesn't mean a whole lot.
As played now you're in a tough spot against a player who might think you whiffed w AK (and has a smaller pair but thinks its good) or has a FD. For this reason stacking off w 88 doesn't seem awful as played. getting 60bb in with 88... i dunno I prefer better spots, a FD and over cards is flip right? Also a flip against Ah5h or Ah3h. In bad shape v 44 (which closed action pf) or TT/99 that flatted behind utg open and again closed action p/f. Agree with sexton some juicy spots live. more conservative play/llower variance play this early better imo.
Aug. 10, 2019 | 7:07 a.m.
generally agree re jamming ourselves rather than calling a jam... if biggest stack aggressive and competent he may not want to call an all in and risk losing 30bb and becoming the short stack himself. however, once he makes it 7.5bb he has to call 22.5bb to win 61bb. so we should expect him to call. standard shove at these stack sizes.
Aug. 10, 2019 | 6:42 a.m.
weekend flights have more recs, flights same day as high roller tournaments have less pro's...