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D Negs! Thank you. That's a nice little trick to add to the bag with the bluff of a bluff.

Seems like QQ is one of the most likely holdings and someone with wrap or straight draw flush draw.

What hands are they supposed to have that would have Q5 or Q7?

What are they supposed to put us on? QQ? AA?

Unless I have a read on donk bettor as someone who would bet something like AQT9 or something random, I think calling is the move. Tank calling.

Where specifically are these games? Yeah swings are greater in PLO but edge is greater too. Just play nutty hands and you can win.

I wouldn't recommend it in general. What game are you playing?

I like it. Worst case you're semi-bluffing.

As a live player, I prefer to see live games. Would be great to see live at the bike analysis as well.

Also, I was thinking with the Ben Lamb hand where he bets QJJx on the xxKA3 board I was thinking he does block AQ and AJ so perhaps that's part of his reasoning.

Played 80/160 mixed at Bellagio. Guy 3 bet all in with K522 rainbow versus Mark Gregorich's open pot bet. There was a $1600 cap on it as well so there's absolute 0 chance of getting a fold.

Bay area california. Lucky Chances, M8trix, and Graton.

If he doesn't show weakness on the turn, why not just check the turn and try to hit a free five ball. If he checks the river to you then maybe he's got Ace high and you can make a judgment call about trying to bluff him or value bet if you hit a pair.

You could play 56 or 54 that way suited that way... or pocket 5s

Results?

agree

Nice I have been thinking about visiting Boston. How are the games at Foxwoods?

If you want to play 6 max play in the early AM (midnight on) when the game is dwindling down.

I know that a lot of places have strict regulation on the amount of tables they can have

Well, if you call turn, call river unless you think river hit his hand or makes it such that he would stop betting a bluff.

The pro can float call with anything. He can put you on air, see that the SB folds figure there's a good chance other fish has nothing or will fold and he'll have you headsup.

The fact that you made the raise with T6d makes it so that you are the type of player to raise with junky hands preflop and I'd assume you're good enough to fire continuation bets too, which makes playing back at you something reasonable to do if unafraid of sticky situations which is kind of what we have here...

There's a high likelihood that you are weak imo, therefor that puts a reasonable likelihood that someone is playing back vs. that with nothing. I wouldn't be too surprised about a gutshot.

BUT

When you call the turn, aren't you saying that you believe your hand is best - that pro is bluffing? So why would it be worst on the river?

It doesn't seem like such a bad spot to bluff. It's a dry board, it's tough for you to have much. If you had a made hand preflop it would be an overpair. Or Ts. Maybe pro has a T that he's turning into a bluff reasoning that you probably don't have a set..

I don't really know, but I feel like you should fold the turn if you don't want to call river.

Thanks

I'm currently in the SF Bay Area. Where are you? 

I'm sure that plenty of online coaches will coach live if you're in their city/can meet in vegas/la etc..

Tommy Angelo does a deal where you go with him to Vegas and spend a couple days with him http://tommyangelo.com/tiltless/

I could offer similar services.

There's a lot that a live pro can teach you that an online pro will not, and vice versa. Some things might be difficult to teach, but something I've had happen is players literally show me their hands in games as big as 10 20 for no reason other than perhaps how much time I take to make decisions.

There's a ton of creativity that happens through communication that cannot happen in online play.

Obviously I couldn't claim that coaching is going to get players to literally turn their hands over before showdown, but it's happened often enough to make an impact.

I had 77 on a 9 high flop in a 10 20 game with mostly regs. I check and the guy bets like $200 and I had maybe $800 behind. I hem and haw for a while until he just turns over a 9 so I fold.

Another time in a (2 3 5 game) I had 5s on some random board against a player who I think is bluff-happy, I ask him if I show him one will he show me one? He says yes and flips a queen. I ask if I show both will he show both and I flip the other 5 and he says okay and shows his 2nd queen.

There's stuff you can do that's more consistent like actually taking your time on the river to make a read. Are they seeming strong/calm by engaging in "fun banter" at first? Well how does their state change or does it stay the same. If they're bluffing, they probably will not have significant state change they will stay nervous, but if they have a medium strength hand they may move from uncertainty to confidence that their hand is best given the time it's taking their opponent - again something that's part of the dynamic of live.

More importantly, and perhaps undiscussed and undiscovered is how to welcome producers into your game and make them stay there and stay happy.

There are a lot of online pros that play live cash and give a very focused "game theory optimized" vibe while playing totally silently and naturally quite aggressively in a manner which could easily be described as a mix of intimidating and boring. Worse yet are when these pros start to talk about ranges, levels, and so forth. Or talk about how some player plays bad or talk about some other pros.

Anyhow, I am a very experienced live pro and am very good about minimizing tilt and staying focused throughout sessions being patient and not bored and having fun at the table while making good money around 10 bb's per hour across all games.

What are you looking for from a live coach? Are you already a winning online player?