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D Negs! Thank you. That's a nice little trick to add to the bag with the bluff of a bluff.

Jan. 28, 2020 | 9:59 a.m.

I've been a near exclusive live player and am curious about what adjustments online players make for live games.

For example: watching videos where players open for 2.5x clearly leaves tons of money at live games where people open for at least 4x all the time and can often open for more. I'm curious to what extent watching online training could actually hurt live game if adjustments aren't made.

Jan. 21, 2020 | 9:06 p.m.

Seems like QQ is one of the most likely holdings and someone with wrap or straight draw flush draw.

What hands are they supposed to have that would have Q5 or Q7?

What are they supposed to put us on? QQ? AA?

Unless I have a read on donk bettor as someone who would bet something like AQT9 or something random, I think calling is the move. Tank calling.

Jan. 15, 2020 | 12:57 a.m.

Where specifically are these games? Yeah swings are greater in PLO but edge is greater too. Just play nutty hands and you can win.

Jan. 15, 2020 | 12:49 a.m.

I wouldn't recommend it in general. What game are you playing?

Jan. 15, 2020 | 12:46 a.m.

I like it. Worst case you're semi-bluffing.

Jan. 15, 2020 | 12:45 a.m.

As a live player, I prefer to see live games. Would be great to see live at the bike analysis as well.

Also, I was thinking with the Ben Lamb hand where he bets QJJx on the xxKA3 board I was thinking he does block AQ and AJ so perhaps that's part of his reasoning.

Jan. 1, 2020 | 4:30 p.m.

Played 80/160 mixed at Bellagio. Guy 3 bet all in with K522 rainbow versus Mark Gregorich's open pot bet. There was a $1600 cap on it as well so there's absolute 0 chance of getting a fold.

Jan. 1, 2020 | 3:01 p.m.

Bay area california. Lucky Chances, M8trix, and Graton.

Jan. 1, 2020 | 2:57 p.m.

Post | nothingfancyhere posted in Chatter: Shuffling at Home Games

Hey are there solid inexpensive shuffle machines? Should we just hire a dealer? I have a bunch of people that could play a home game, but haven't sorted logistics. I'm thinking it will be mostly regs/pros and basically not have rake.

Oct. 18, 2018 | 5:36 p.m.

Post | nothingfancyhere posted in NLHE: The Biggest Live Leak

The biggest leak is when you speak at the table about strategy with someone you respect.

You might think it's not a big deal, but the fact is poker is a learnable game and you can turn a big loser into a near break even player pretty simply. They just learn to fold more hands. They learn to think.

PLEASE STOP DOING IT

If you're at a high limit table, don't make it intimidating.

People are willing to gamble. They want to play blackjack and pai gow and all that stuff.

If the poker table was fun instead of a bunch of silent nitty pros, we'd have more money to go around.

So stop bringing the focus on playing better.

When you talk about how to make decisions and different betting lines or equity or ranges etc... you are guaranteed losing money not only there but in the long term. 

People will learn. People will evolve...

BUT

People still play blackjack and looove craps and will love shit like that forever. So let them associate poker with that. Maybe we should even stop telling people we play poker professionally or brag about it being a skill game. Just don't tell or act like you're just lucky. That way people are less apt to think about it as a serious thing and can just go and have fun.

People go to have fun and lose at slots and baccarat and all that.

If you can make the poker game seem like that, we'll have way more fun.

GIVE PEOPLE ACTION

I'm sure you already do this, but if there's a guy who likes to go all in nearly every hand, maybe give him some action? Push your 5% edges. Make the game more interesting.

Also, stop being assholes. You know who you are. Be nice damn it. 

One guy at a high limit table was speaking another language to his friend across the table and clearly talking about the hand he had played.

STOP DOING THAT

That is shady and unethical first of all and second of all IT'S SHADY AND UNETHICAL

Why do I care? A. Because that could be cheating B. and more importantly, it can make tourists and newcomers uncomfortable.

I know that for me, first coming up to games like 10-20 I was very intimidated. It's a different atmosphere people show way more focus and attention and are clearly more into the game and the power dynamics. You really are risking being made a fool of in this context. People should feel welcome. In fact there was an old pro that was quite a shark that really made me feel welcome in the game, that feeling of welcome and relaxed playfulness may have cost me some money :)

But it's not about me, the point is to make poker fun. To make it a fun social event. People looove craps they think it's so much fun.Poker should be like that. People should come hoping to risk their stacks not hear nothing but silence for 30 minutes and then someone talking about range merging.

You can be playful and still make great poker decisions. You don't have to be all stiff all the time and show such obvious deliberation. Maybe that's good when you're against a great player and want to hide your tells, but when you're with a tourist, loosen up. Make their enjoyment a priority.

Remember, it's not just about this pot. It's about them staying and playing in the long term.

Think about it.

There are rich businessmen that want to try poker they come and try it and see that it's bankrupt socially and boring financially. They leave. This could be different.

And no, I don't think that most poker games are boring or not good socially. I like them a lot. Poker games are extremely interesting.


Anyway that's all.


Sept. 5, 2014 | 9:18 a.m.

If he doesn't show weakness on the turn, why not just check the turn and try to hit a free five ball. If he checks the river to you then maybe he's got Ace high and you can make a judgment call about trying to bluff him or value bet if you hit a pair.

You could play 56 or 54 that way suited that way... or pocket 5s


Results?

Aug. 27, 2014 | 10:01 a.m.

Aug. 27, 2014 | 10 a.m.

Nice I have been thinking about visiting Boston. How are the games at Foxwoods?

Aug. 27, 2014 | 9:51 a.m.

Comment | nothingfancyhere commented on 6 Max Live?

If you want to play 6 max play in the early AM (midnight on) when the game is dwindling down.

I know that a lot of places have strict regulation on the amount of tables they can have

Aug. 18, 2014 | 3:30 a.m.

Well, if you call turn, call river unless you think river hit his hand or makes it such that he would stop betting a bluff.

The pro can float call with anything. He can put you on air, see that the SB folds figure there's a good chance other fish has nothing or will fold and he'll have you headsup.

The fact that you made the raise with T6d makes it so that you are the type of player to raise with junky hands preflop and I'd assume you're good enough to fire continuation bets too, which makes playing back at you something reasonable to do if unafraid of sticky situations which is kind of what we have here...

There's a high likelihood that you are weak imo, therefor that puts a reasonable likelihood that someone is playing back vs. that with nothing. I wouldn't be too surprised about a gutshot.

BUT

When you call the turn, aren't you saying that you believe your hand is best - that pro is bluffing? So why would it be worst on the river?

It doesn't seem like such a bad spot to bluff. It's a dry board, it's tough for you to have much. If you had a made hand preflop it would be an overpair. Or Ts. Maybe pro has a T that he's turning into a bluff reasoning that you probably don't have a set..

I don't really know, but I feel like you should fold the turn if you don't want to call river.

Aug. 18, 2014 | 2:45 a.m.

Thanks

I'm currently in the SF Bay Area. Where are you? 

Aug. 17, 2014 | 10:43 p.m.

I'm sure that plenty of online coaches will coach live if you're in their city/can meet in vegas/la etc..

Tommy Angelo does a deal where you go with him to Vegas and spend a couple days with him http://tommyangelo.com/tiltless/

I could offer similar services.

Aug. 17, 2014 | 8:05 a.m.

There's a lot that a live pro can teach you that an online pro will not, and vice versa. Some things might be difficult to teach, but something I've had happen is players literally show me their hands in games as big as 10 20 for no reason other than perhaps how much time I take to make decisions.

There's a ton of creativity that happens through communication that cannot happen in online play.

Obviously I couldn't claim that coaching is going to get players to literally turn their hands over before showdown, but it's happened often enough to make an impact.

I had 77 on a 9 high flop in a 10 20 game with mostly regs. I check and the guy bets like $200 and I had maybe $800 behind. I hem and haw for a while until he just turns over a 9 so I fold.

Another time in a (2 3 5 game) I had 5s on some random board against a player who I think is bluff-happy, I ask him if I show him one will he show me one? He says yes and flips a queen. I ask if I show both will he show both and I flip the other 5 and he says okay and shows his 2nd queen.

There's stuff you can do that's more consistent like actually taking your time on the river to make a read. Are they seeming strong/calm by engaging in "fun banter" at first? Well how does their state change or does it stay the same. If they're bluffing, they probably will not have significant state change they will stay nervous, but if they have a medium strength hand they may move from uncertainty to confidence that their hand is best given the time it's taking their opponent - again something that's part of the dynamic of live.

More importantly, and perhaps undiscussed and undiscovered is how to welcome producers into your game and make them stay there and stay happy.

There are a lot of online pros that play live cash and give a very focused "game theory optimized" vibe while playing totally silently and naturally quite aggressively in a manner which could easily be described as a mix of intimidating and boring. Worse yet are when these pros start to talk about ranges, levels, and so forth. Or talk about how some player plays bad or talk about some other pros.

Anyhow, I am a very experienced live pro and am very good about minimizing tilt and staying focused throughout sessions being patient and not bored and having fun at the table while making good money around 10 bb's per hour across all games.

What are you looking for from a live coach? Are you already a winning online player? 


Aug. 17, 2014 | 8:01 a.m.

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