# shorshi

75 points

Hi guys,

I was wondering if there is easier/more effective ways to study how people react to certain actions i take.

A very simple example:

For example i openraise BTN and i want to see how often i get 3bet on average. What i can do is i filter for "hands where i open the button" and lets say it shows 100 hands. then i filter "i open the BTN and i faced a 3bet" and the result shows 10 hands, which means i get 3bet 10% of the time i open my BTN. There HAS to be a more efficient way to do this.

Or, example number 2, i wanna see how often people fold to my x/r on the flop. i will have to filter "hands where i x/r" and it shows me 100 hands again. and then i filter "hands where i x/r and a) we see a turn or b) i x/r/f" to only filter out the times they fold. not it will show 60 hands so i know they folded 40% of the time.

This is a very hard way to achieve something very easy, and theres many more examples where i feel like i have to take this complicated route to get the results i want.

any tips?

Thanks :)

### Dec. 31, 2018 | 7:20 p.m.

super shady shit going on there, botrings and multiaccs confirmed... golden days are over :(

holy shit that video wtfff

### Oct. 20, 2018 | 7:35 p.m.

Hey guys,

Lets assume the following situation. We play a live midstakes Game, 8 handed, 200bb deep effective. We open 3bb from UTG and get 3bet to 9bb by UTG1, following a 4bet from us to 28.5bb, a bit on the larger side since we are oop and deep.

What is our 4bet range and why?
What is Villains call-4b-range and why?

He calls our 4bet and we go to a flop of

Qs Jh 8s,

what strat do you propose? SPR at this moment is roughly 3:1, the pot is 58.5bb and we have 170bb behind. I have done some work on this and will provide some insight later, if anyone is interested.

/shorshi

### June 12, 2018 | 1:46 a.m.

sry kids i have to repeat, we are currently NOT looking to add any new members to our group. to be honest though i can see from the amount of requests we are getting that demand is defnitely there, so i would advise people to start their own threads and form some new groups :) gl my dudes

### May 13, 2018 | 5:57 p.m.

the rake structe should be important. What do you mean the 5 - 10 games are without rake?

### April 15, 2018 | 12:56 a.m.

Comment | shorshi commented on \$25/\$50 HUNL and PIO

oh its just strategy I see, thanks, thought it was the EV difference, which would be interesting to see.

### April 14, 2018 | 1:48 p.m.

@30:25 KK Hand
We have to use a polarized cbet strategy on this board, with bigger sizing and lower Cbet freq. If villain defends correct against your pre sizing, he has a big nutadvantage (K7o, K6o, 67o and a ton of draws 98o, 56o). Because of that fact good Villains will x/r more than 100 combos on the Flop against a 33% range Cbet, which results in a big EV loss given the wide ranges.

@2:50 I think its fine to squeeze to about 32\$ in that spot OOP. Most people dont have elastic defending ranges vs different 3bet/Squeeze sizes. The SPR gets lower which is also beneficial for playing OOP. I think 4betting AK is better than TT, cause AK has less implieds postflop in a HU 3betpot.

@7:00
The 3 on the Turn is a slightly better Card for Villains Range which includes 43cc, Q3s, but yeah dont want to be too fussy :P

I would prefer to use 56s/57s/67s (w/o spades/clubs) as a 3barrel bluff, cause of less blocking effects of Villains folding range (T9o, J9o,JTo...)

Also when the Board Texture doesnt change, and it goes complete blank Turn and River, we want to have bluffs in every scenario, especially if we have a uncapped range and villain has a capped range to some frequency.

@18:44
KQo I always open in that position as a default, I would only explo fold if there is unconventional high 3bet agression behind us or maniac. But in this case, we even have a super wide and passive 63vpip/1pfr player behind us, which is quite +EV if he calls us. If we get 3bet we can 4betbluff to some frequency, because of good blocker effects.

### April 4, 2018 | 11:39 p.m.

Post | shorshi posted in Chatter: PT4 help, cap HUD to 99% ???

Hey guys, can anyone help me with my PT4 HUD? I want to cap stats to 99%, just like in HEM2, to save space on my screen. is that possible? thanks!

anyone? :)

HEM2, sry

### March 22, 2018 | 2:04 p.m.

Post | shorshi posted in NLHE: looking to buy a good HUD/Popups

hey guys, i am looking to buy a good HUD with popups for midstakes nlhe, as i cant be bothered to put the hours into making one tbh. not looking for something super massive with 7000 stats but should go beyond the casual HUD wizh 15 stats.

nice-to-read popups are actually more important. hit me up with anything, we can discuss pricing if i am interested. feel free to PM.

thanks
/shorshi

### March 22, 2018 | 2:03 p.m.

Comment | shorshi commented on 100NL Bluff HU 3betPot

I have a linear range, and I think the big sizing is good against the population.

Yes on the flop I have a polarized approach going for a big sizing and low cbet frequ., making it a 2 street game postflop with my nutequity/bluffs.

Betting and x/r QTs,99, 88, QQ, AJ. Bluffs I would fill up with low FDs,NFD low kicker, KTs

x/c on flop with JJ, AA,KK, AJhh etc.

### March 17, 2018 | 10:22 a.m.

Hand History | shorshi posted in NLHE: 100NL Bluff HU 3betPot
Blinds: \$0.50/\$1.00 (3 Players) BB: \$50.00
BN: \$108.90
SB: \$159.83 (Hero)
Preflop (\$1.50) Hero is SB with T K
BN raises to \$2.50, Hero raises to \$11.00, BB folds, BN calls \$8.50
Flop (\$23.00) J 9 8
Hero bets \$15.18, BN calls \$15.18
Turn (\$53.36) J 9 8 A
Hero checks, BN checks
River (\$53.36) J 9 8 A 3
Hero bets \$36.50, BN folds
Final Pot SB wins \$52.36
Rake is \$1.00

### March 17, 2018 | 8:04 a.m.

Hand History | shorshi posted in NLHE: [nl100] legit river bluff ??
Blinds: \$0.50/\$1.00 (6 Players) BN: \$203.88
SB: \$100.00 (Hero)
BB: \$202.46
UTG: \$100.00
MP: \$114.17
CO: \$201.68
Preflop (\$1.50) Hero is SB with A 3
2 folds, CO raises to \$2.52, BN folds, Hero raises to \$11.00, BB folds, CO calls \$8.48
Flop (\$23.00) Q 7 J
Hero bets \$6.77, CO calls \$6.77
Turn (\$36.54) Q 7 J T
Hero bets \$23.50, CO calls \$23.50
River (\$83.54) Q 7 J T 5
Hero bets \$58.73 and is all in, CO folds
Final Pot SB wins \$81.04
Rake is \$2.50
Villain was regular

### March 13, 2018 | 2:20 p.m.

Hand History | shorshi posted in NLHE: [nl100] legit river bluff ?
Blinds: \$0.50/\$1.00 (5 Players) SB: \$102.22
BB: \$120.50
UTG: \$107.35
CO: \$100.00 (Hero)
BN: \$47.68
Preflop (\$1.50) Hero is CO with J A
UTG raises to \$3.00, Hero raises to \$9.00, 3 folds, UTG calls \$6.00
Flop (\$19.50) 9 4 T
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn (\$19.50) 9 4 T J
UTG bets \$9.63, Hero calls \$9.63
River (\$38.76) 9 4 T J K
UTG bets \$13.26, Hero raises to \$81.37 and is all in, UTG calls \$68.11
Final Pot UTG wins and shows a straight, Nine to King.
CO lost and shows a pair of Jacks.
UTG wins \$199.00
Rake is \$2.50
villain was regular , (have no PIO at the moment, computer is out for repair)

Get well soon!

### March 10, 2018 | 4:56 a.m.

@sorrymom i need ur whole discord handle to add you, with the number :) or just add me under shorshiii#4928

### March 8, 2018 | 7:57 p.m.

people have been asking this since 2008. Every year, many players make their living from this game. If you have the brain, the work ethic, and the motivation to do it you can do it. There will always be worse players.

### Feb. 27, 2018 | 11:24 a.m.

Comment | shorshi commented on zNL5 - 3Bet pot SBxBU

very well played imo. exactly what katon said.

solving atm

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 6:08 p.m.

did you by any chance put the spot through pio? would be fun to see, might do it later tonight if u havent

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 5:33 p.m.

i highly suggest checking range on T55 board oop, easy x/r with A5 and all overpairs except AA for strengthening my x/c range, not fearing overcards like with QQ. dont really like the overbet ott, paired boards usually are not the greatest to do so, as we give Villain easy decisions and we dont have clear range-advantage here.

Same on river.

You didnt include further action, but from ur writing i guess Villain jammed? Obviously you can never fold your nut-trips in this situation, you would be overfolding like a madman.

Imo this hand is a perfect example how hard it is to play oop, to be fair (and no insult meant lol) i kinda think you missplayed this hand quite a lot. my line would be x/r flop, bet 2/3 turn, jam riv.

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 5:22 p.m.

Hey guys :) i have accepted both ur requests, Flopstarr and Greed. Get back to me whenever you find time.

So far we are 7 grinders in the group, with quite the mix going on. We have 3 players currently battling at the 100nl tables, one of them is an oldschool grinder who is getting back in the game, with huge success up to 3knl in the past, the other 2 are me and my friend who started the group with excellent background and a great highstakes-beast coach and friend who is preparing us for highstakes glory ;)

Then we have another player who plays 400nl-1knl at the moment with many years as a fulltime pro under his belt.

The remaining two guys are the young guns of the group, we have a transitioner from MTTs to 6max cash. he is currently located at 25nl but we hope we can improve him quickly, he brings useful content into our discussions everyday.

Our last member is really one of a kind, from what i have seen so far in my pokercareer. He is an Asian 20yo kid with one of the funadementally and theoretically most profound pokerminds i have seen in a long time. He is playing 2nl right now because,well, i dont know why to be honest :D but he has the approach of mastering the game first in his mind and then conquering the tables. He talks about poker like a GTO bot from the future, has all the solutions and crazy strategic insight on just about every aspect of the game, and a brilliant mathematical mind. I am seriously baffled by this kid everytime we talk poker, and he plays 2nl at the moment. i would NOT be surprised if he makes it to 200nl by the end of 2018 and 1knl in 2019.

I am very happy with how "my" little group is developing, theres good exchange every day and some interesting discussion going on around the clock.

Sooo yeah, just by the nature of how exchanging content and ideas work, i would ask anyone who is playing lower than 100nl to please NOT add me on Discord... We are shooting for midstakes players atm because we dont wanna "wash down" the group as a whole. I hope that didnt sound to douchey.

/shorshi :)

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 3:36 p.m.

Nice Video , but Sir... "as far as your Piosolver update is concerned"

15th of October 2016 was your last update!

my son is born on the 15th of October, so you might keep it for the good run.

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 4:24 a.m.

Nice video! about how much bb/100 is the rake at nl500z ?

### Feb. 26, 2018 | 4:02 a.m.

AK5 in 3bpot i like going for a polar betting approach so not betting range like Samu suggested. In a polar approach i think AJ should be checked as we cant really go for 3 streets anway and way have a lot of better hands on this board.

So easy x/c imo, if checked we start betting turn and prob bet most rivs.

as played i agree with Samu, turn should always be a bet as the board is still dynamic enough and fitting V's range enough for us to need to deny EQ and obv just go for value. River has to be a snap, we are way too high up in our range to fold this, given our line.

### Feb. 23, 2018 | 12:10 p.m.

added you, looking forward to chat :) So far our group consists of 4 people and we just started to get to know each other, but i already like the mix of seasoned grinders and thirsty upcomers :)

### Feb. 18, 2018 | 10:38 p.m.

Hey guys, a good friend of mine and I are looking to start a studygroup to help push each other to becoming better poker players. You know how it is with motivation, the workload, feeling the need to discuss ideas etc but not knowing where to go.

Both of us are experienced grinders playing up to 100nl on Stars and up to 400nl on smaller sites, we have been working together as a duo for more than a year, looking to expand our circle. Everyone with a goal and work ethic is welcome, from 25nl to 1knl or beyond :)

We have acces to all the usual stuff like RIO elite, Pio, all other tools, etc.

Biggest problem i personally have is that i like playing far more than stuyding, but once i sit down to work i usually develop a passion for the problem faced. In the group we could do basically anything imaginable from discussing Books, to sharing Pio work, analysing RIO vids together, sweatsessions, etc etc.We really want to make this a useful group with dedicated grinders and a lot of exchange, not just posting a hand every 3 days to hear "ul, wp"

If you wanna have a look or chat just hit me up on discord under

shorshiii#4928

Cheers :)

### Feb. 18, 2018 | 1:34 a.m.

Comment | shorshi commented on Database Review

Would be nice to see your "River Call Efficiency". I would suggest most players with a 1-alpha river approach have less than 1.3 there. I feel in my limits that I should make more explo folds on the river, because people are underbluffing on most runouts. I know I still call abit too much OTR I have exactly 1.2 there

I've seen also 1.2 in a video of Tyler Forrester over a large samplesize.

### Feb. 11, 2018 | 3:28 a.m.

you know its gonna be a good video when you hear following phrases:

• "as far as sizing is concerned"
• "this hand is highly mixed"
• "with this particular combo we wanna bet"
• "a blockbet is usually just fine here"