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but doesnt change anyhting when i plug in the numbers again, still -0.44
but guess the last post is now the final right formula and i can start putting in some numbers for some rough estimations

So this is the right one?
EV (limpstab) = (DontIso x (FvCbet x 2BB + CallvCbet x -2BB)) + (Iso x -1BB)

As an example
Iso 30%
Fold2cbetwert 60%

(0.7 x (0.6 x 1.5BB + 0.4 x -1.5BB)) + (0.3 x -1BB) = -0.44
So our move would be making 0.06BB more compared to folding.
cheers

but when we limp 72o, the fish can iso,so he thinks, on the flop he can donk, so hethinks.
so every hand takes time. how can u be sure a limp stab with 72o is worth invest the time?

to your second point
this shallow therenominraise pots, so pot is usually limppot, so we cant bet 1/3, my std size is min, so 50%pot. if we bet 50%, we must win 33% or more. so if he folds 67% or more we have autoprofit, so my 70% fold2cbet is right? or doihave a thinking error?
cheers

Thanks BigFiszh, awesome post, love it <3
I did also some Flop Categoriation , like 85% flops in nl are 9xx und higher
Axx 22%,Kxx 18%,Qxx 15%,Jxx 12%, Txx 10%,9xx 7%
so i guess for axx flops u want the lowest drop in bb/100, which is kinda good, cause axx flops are often automatic very suited for simplyfication cause the range advantage.
lower flops like 678s or something are rare, but very bad for simplefication.
so i think i will just try to get 9xx+ flops to a max of 0.5% and lower flops 8xx and below maybe a max 1.5-2% on the flop. still no one can say me if this is good or bad, but at least ive got a startingpoint, that makes logical at least some sense.
the problem im a perfectionist and this is stuff, where perfectionist often slows u down and theres no solution possible and decision paralyze is a very dangerous and frustrating terrain.

BigFiszh
hey, thanks for the answer. really appriciate it, cause on this topic i feel, noone has a good answer. i will def search for your other answer.
but still your answer like 10bb/100 might be a gamechanger is still to vague for me, i still cant do a lot with this.

for example i study atm BTNvsBB 25BB deep, which happen in my format quite often, its like a bread and butter spot
the pot after btn mr , sb fold and bb call is 90 chips
lets take 9s 8s 2d,
IP EV(25,50,75,100) so 4 betsizings mixxed is 62.29
IP EV (25_100%) so 1/4pot 100% is 61.98
so the diffrence is 0.31
*100 = 31
1bb = 20 chips
so from playing a 4 betsizes higly mixxed strat on this board
to a 1/4 pot 100% cbet strat i loose 1.55bb/100
which seems not too much, so that i want to implement the 100% 1/4 cbet strat
but now when i took for example
9c 5c 2s
here is EV diffrence is 0.98
so 4.9bb/100 diffrence
so for this board, a 75% mixxed cbetstrat with roundings yields to a
better ev.
but still my question is kinda unsolved, where to draw the line in these spots
is 5bb/100 a big thing, is 8bb/100 a big thing, should i worry only if its >10bbb/100. so to ask a concrete question, in common spots, which bb/100 diffrence is a gamechanger?

So u mean 1% of EV diffrence? So for example if the pot is 90 chips and
strat A captures me 70EV and strat B captures 70.8, strat B is okay to choose if its much easier to implement?
also do u know which pro player said that? i can only remember nick howard said something like this when he was working with these bet all flops 33% simplefication in his video courses.