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Post | GMjunior posted in NLHE: 622r Heads Up 3-bet pot

We 3 bet 100BB deep in heads up. Flop is 622 rainbow. Solver basically uses all sizes. There are obvious arguments to play both polarized and equity-driven strategy so I don't know if I want to choose one size what would be preferred. I am leaning towards 33% with range so that I can effectively split on turns. Could also split range on this board putting my middling cards AK/AQ, 6x-TT in big bet and then everything else in small bet. it's actually going to be quite tricky to become unbalanced given how much turns change nut advantage.

April 12, 2024 | 2:51 p.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on GTO+ simsz

Thank you for help. I have decided to mainly just runs sims on turn ands rivers. In general I can guess which strategy I want to play on the flop and hopefully understanding turns and rivers better will help me be more creative on the flop. So I just tweak flop strats based on easily implementable solutions and see the solutions based on this. DO you think this is good idea?

March 21, 2024 | 10:20 p.m.

Post | GMjunior posted in NLHE: GTO+ simsz

I recently got GTO+ but the sims take too long/too much memory to load which basically means i can't do any nodelocking/experimentation etc. Anyone got a solution to this problem

March 15, 2024 | 10 p.m.

Ok so we need to be calling here. It's somewhat uncomfortable OOP of course but we'll just need to make some hard decisions later on. His 4-bet strat should not actually be to make QQ indifferent here. He should really be targetting your JJ-77 and you're bluffs. You should be 3-betting KQo, AJo+, many suited aces etc. We can not start folding QQ here. That being said the bottom of his value range will be QQ so we never want to jam this when he gets to call AK and QQ+ only. AK is better to both jam and to call than QQ. Personally I would favour a small 5-bet this deep with KK/AA/AKs/A5s and flat AKo/ and any pocket pair/suited connectory type hand.

Dec. 29, 2023 | 10:57 p.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on EVs of opening range.

I think I was trying to make myself indifferent to 0BB/100 when I should have been aiming for -50BB/100. So yeah basically SB is outragously profitable in my games. My winrate with RFI from the SB is 105BB/100 over 600 hands. Running marginally above all-in EV. My true winrate from the SB is -17BB/100. Think should for sure be expanding my opening range as it looks to be one of the most poorly defended nodes in the game tree. Might do some anaysis of BTN vs BB next

Sept. 7, 2023 | 3:27 p.m.

Im not so familiar with Pio but I was wondering if this sort of nodelocking approach affects previous streets. So for example if villain new that on flush completing runnouts you were never Over betting they could change their strategy accordingly OTF. Perhaps this is not the best example but I imagine this is the case that future simplifications could lead to pre-emptive exploitation.

Sept. 3, 2023 | 9:58 p.m.

Post | GMjunior posted in NLHE: EVs of opening range.

my pool stats SB vs BB are 30%call, 11% 3-bet and 37% fold to c-bet. 6% raise c-bet. Hence EV raise= (.11)(-3) + (1)(.59) + (.30)EVcall

EVcall = (6)(.37) -(5)(.06) + (.57) EVcontinue = - .93 assuming our worst 2 cards have 0 equity when called which is reasonable OOP.

EV raise = -.019.

We would I think also have to account for the EV of folding at zoom being positive. (Funniliy enough I think if you are losing at more than 1.9BB/100 it is higher EV to raise any 2 cards than to fold always).

Beyond this if we want to profit from any two cards EV continue must be more than -4.9 BB. I'm not really sure how to proceed. If we have 0% equity our EV is -5BB so how much equity do we need for it to be -4.9BB?

Another note is that I would suspect pool is relatively inelastic between 1/4 pot and 1/3 pot although this is speculation. This has also made me realise that there could be an error in my fold to c-bet stat as I believe people bet bigger than 1/3 at my stakes normally and perhaps my tracker is accounting for hands played between 2 villains even on zoom?I personally dont play big bets SB vs BB except on AKx boards. Ok so I think it is clear raising any 2 cards is not profitable. Am still interested in how to solve the question above regarding EV and equity though.

My guess is that (-5)(1 - W) + (5)(W) = -4.9
-5 +W +5W = -4.9
6W =1/10

I think we definitely win by the hand checking down 1/60 th of the time even with our worst 2 cards. Not sure if bets effect this because balance is kind out the window at this point so maybe we don't achieve this against someone who knows are strategy but I think people are overly passive at the micros. So we will auto profit if people are inelastic to flop sizing (not sure about the fold to c-bet stat).
Also EVfold >0 for a winning player so also less clear. Would be interested in any opinions/ corrections.

Aug. 31, 2023 | 11:37 a.m.

I would say that good regs are 3-betting quite aggressivly, probably need to get a better tagging scheme going.

Aug. 28, 2023 | 7:13 p.m.

Lets say that I decide to open 55% of my hands from the BTN due to population overfolding and under 3-betting. Can I continue the GTO defending range or do I have to defend my specific RFI range?

Aug. 28, 2023 | 3:02 p.m.

exploitation is something I'm trying to stay away from just because it's so darn wishy washy and it can be hard to build reads without MDA and even with it, running sims and avoiding bias isn't something I feel worthy of investment at this stage of my career. Like I would want to be sure that enough EV is gained from overfolding to justify underdefending

Aug. 21, 2023 | 6:03 p.m.

I understand this. But how can I tell by what margin I should overfold. I would need to build confidence in my reads, run sims to test how much I lose by overfolding vs how much I gain vs suspected villain's range. If I know I have a strategy which wins overall but just happens to lose when facing a 5bet, how can I tell if it is justifiable to choose a strategy which loses less vs 5-bets. Like how do I do what I have to do. Node-locking isn't specific to every player and i would need to be careful that counter-exploitation isn't so severe

Aug. 21, 2023 | 5:58 p.m.

Facing a 5bet jam should we fold a call according to sims if we suspect spot to be underbluffed? I am really trying to become more theoretically focused but getting consistently stacked preflop while following charts is massacring my winrate. Is it worth deviating or do I just have to wait for variance to even out. For example calling 8s-JJs vs BB 5bet jam BB vs SB

Aug. 21, 2023 | 2:24 p.m.

Great video, would like to see a video on the topic of when we get to overfold compared to MDF. I know it can have something to do with the EV of checks being high so we have to make their bluffs profitable and also as mentioned in this video when we bet ourselves and hence some folds act as "give ups". None the less I find it to be quite confusing and would be interested in seeing a breakdown similiar to this video

Aug. 9, 2023 | 7:39 p.m.

Try to think about youre range and how you would balance it. So say on flush draw turns, think about which flush draw combos you want to put in both ranges. I think consiously focusing on balancing certain hands through different lines helps. In general if you have a sizing strategy you should just be drilling though

Aug. 9, 2023 | 1:17 p.m.

I think you should randomize tbh

Aug. 8, 2023 | 5 p.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on Too thin?

I think it's a very bad check. Probably was 4-tabling and didn't realise BB had cold-called. HU its fine to check 10s I think because I don't want to range bet and need some protection. Multi-way probably I can mix checks low-frequency but I feel it makes a little more sense to just play in a vacuum

Aug. 8, 2023 | 11:44 a.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on Check this river?

If we assume villain never folds a straight, jam of course becomes the best option, which we would do with K10 only (obviously having no incentive to bluff.) However if we expect villain to always raise straights against small bets, betting small can become the best option. If villain starts calling vs small-bets we still only bet the nut straight. If we remove K10o from villains range, jamming becomes the preferred option given that he has to felt other straights more often. However if we assume villain always jams straights and sometimes calls bluffcatchers we should opt for a 1/3 sizing (where they don't have K10o). Bluffs are 0EV so getting more calls always outweighs being able to bluff more

Aug. 8, 2023 | 11:32 a.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on Check this river?

So I did the analysis and it's kinda bizarre. It centres around K10 being the nuts and also being a split, but also around ggpoker not raking postflop. Basically what it means is that villains raises should be K10 ONLY!!! In fact if I go 75% villain is meant to start folding A10, and if i go 120% villain is meant to pure fold A10 and mixing with his other 10s. I'm also only betting K10 for this size using AK and Kx of diamonds as bluffs. My sets and even straights want to pure check. Given that the nuts is a chop and pretty evenly distributed (technically he shouldn't have K10o but he has Q10o in game so i gave it to him for the sim.) With SPR still being relatively high and ranges being reasonably shallow what it basically means is that when we felt for a jam it's filtered to just K10. So basically I want to go a size which makes his straights indifferent and I can either make his A10 indifferent or his other straights indifferent. I would imagine if we don't think villain ever folds we should be jamming. Should also run sims where he doesn't have K10o and also where SPR is lower.

Aug. 8, 2023 | 11:07 a.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on Check this river?

Also I don't mind the 1/2 pot. Like according to Freenachos, I can just go the size I want to with my hand here if I don't think I'll get bluff-raised. Maybe 1/3 makes sense though, I need to bet a size which will induce raises with my 10x, but this is slightly contradictory to thinking pool won't bluff-raise. Like If that is the case i would rather go 1/3 with sets and 3/4 with straights. Or if we do think they will bluff-raise maybe we can go the opposite, so 2/3 with sets and 1/3 with straights. Probably it's correct to go 1/3 with both though. If we do that I think we should mix sets into bet and check in a way where we make villain indifferent to bluffing given that we want to pure-fold sets. Otherwise I guess we can bluffcatch sets but it seems suspicious

Aug. 8, 2023 | 10:26 a.m.

Comment | GMjunior commented on Check this river?

Yeah I agree. I think if I can convince myself villain isn't going to jam as a bluff it's fine to bet. If I think pool finds bluffs here I think I should check. Likely this guy isn't finding any bluffs so bet-fold is correct play. From a theoretical standpoint I think maybe check is better. Villains range is quite 10 heavy. Having the Js is good because I unblock an additional J9 combo though I think it should fold river so maybe not relevant. I think it's a bet-fold vs pool though given they don't bluff enough (I don't have the stats to verify this but it seems to be the general consensus in such spots)

Aug. 8, 2023 | 10:19 a.m.

At 21.15 you said that if we remove OOP option to raise that we will always take a size which we want with our specific hand. I was wondering would the same be true if villains would never bluff-raise? I feel that this may be true as we would always fold and hence not lose any value anyway. As a further extension to this would villain only slightly under-bluffing with their raises cause the same effect?

Aug. 6, 2023 | 9:35 p.m.

everything is udnerbluffed at micros online. Thats just how it is. This line is probably value 95%

Aug. 6, 2023 | 8:01 p.m.

Hi so todays a little bit of a more advanced question so hoping that a pro could maybe shine some light. Range betting is offered as a good simplification by most coaches on the site but I was thinking about and was wondering if it's actually a lot worse than the videos suggest. So when we try to find out if range-betting is a good strategy we compare the EV of range-betting vs the GTO strategy and if the %pot lost is below a certain thresh-hold we consider it to be a reasonable simplification. But as I thought about it, I realised that the presented EV will of course come from the solver playing a minimally exploitable strategy against the range-betting strategy. However is they're a maximally exploitative strategy which actually causes a far greater EV difference? I feel as this could change strategies quite heavily from both perspectives.

Aug. 5, 2023 | 6:45 p.m.

Villains are more likely to 4-bet AJ/A10/KJ/K10 hence removing outs for 10s and JJs vs OPs. With 9s and 8s it is less evident. Could be straight over straights scenarios going on. with 9s 10JQK isn't that nutted but with 6s 78910 is much more nutted. not to mention 5789. I imagine this places quite significantly into the decision. The comment amount being dominated is very heavily related to MDF. We need to call so many hands to avoid being exploitable but if we call only broadways we can be easily dominated. e.g QJ can lose a stack to AQ 10J to AJ and the like. Therefore we choose to maintain MDF by playing lower hands. They are not profitable in and off themselves but they are essential as part of a balanced and unexploitable strategy.

Aug. 5, 2023 | 6:37 p.m.

Ok so the reason the solver plays these hands is 2fold. 1) Board Coverage 2) these hands tend not to be dominated. For example you will often see solver folding JJ-88 before 77-66. What I would recommend in most low-stakes field is to 3-bet these hands at a higher frequency due to people not 4-betting enough and being able to realise your equity later. Against 4-bets I think i would low frequency call. If you decide to 3-bet them at a lower frequency I would recommend you call them against 4-bets in most cases.

Aug. 4, 2023 | 2:44 p.m.

Yeah im going to be playing 33/50/75/150 in different spots. Normally i only play 1 size but sometimes i add 2 depending how depolarized i want to play and if i feel a spot will be overfolded. I really think i get a lot of folds and sometimes win when called but when I check villains likely have 12 live outs so I probably lose like 35-45% of the time. Also I'm pretty sure that the river is going to be outrageously underbluffed and I'll end up having to fold 66 to a bet anyway

Aug. 4, 2023 | 12:40 a.m.

Ok great insight. I think 66 I'm more inclined to bet multi-way than HU. I need more protection than usual and also villains are less likely to call with A high. I guess I felt some A high's would call B33 but probably that's a good thing,

Aug. 3, 2023 | 2:48 p.m.

If im playing B50/B150 I think its fine to bet 66 at least if i assume that players really dont protect theyre checking ranges. This mightnt be true on the board pairing 8 though. BB could still
have 10x and LJ 77/99. And probably villains play too face up 3-way OTR. Ok i should check for sure

Aug. 3, 2023 | 11:26 a.m.

The 7s hand is for sure a mistake. The 66 bet I'm more ok with. Also dont mind the 1/2 pot sizing. I think i basically get folds 80+% of the time here and protect my equity quite well. Can still get called by some draws and win with x/x OTR. Maybe 1/3 is better as i get called by A high but i dont see it being terrible to fold them out. I would be playing B50/B150, maybe B33/B150 is better

Aug. 3, 2023 | 11:24 a.m.

Well vs a recreational I assume he won't leverage his range equity OTF and will end up checking his giveups more than his marginal showdown value which I thought would make small bets overperform vs OBs. OTR i would play an OB/x strategy.

OC I dont normally defend J4. In general i tend not to focus on preflop so much although definitely my ranges are better now as ive been working on some flop strategies since recording this video. Like im fine making the occasional 1BB mistake pre if it means i stop makikg my 26BB mistakes OTR.

Perhaps this is the wrong strategy but I try to learn preflop from postflop rather than vice versa.

Anyway thanks Steve for the great video, definitely learned a lot. Adapted my game from some of the advice you had previously given me and now Im doing quite well at 10Nl.

Aug. 2, 2023 | 11:14 a.m.

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