Thanks to both of you for your feedback. Upon further reflection I think the best line is actually to check turn. Much of his range apart from Qx and sets will check back and give me a free river, which if I brick I can think about bluffing vs a capped range. If he bets I can call getting a terrific price. I think my lack of SD value is actually less damaging than I first thought. It's my lack of fold equity that really makes betting a worse line, I think.
June 22, 2019 | 2:36 p.m.
So I recently played a live 1/2 hand where I got into a tricky spot. Admittedly I should have folded pre with this hand, but I had been playing very tight up until this point and there were no strong players at the table, so I got a bit fresh. Anyway, the action went like this:
Hero in HJ, ~90bb: Opens $7 with Jh4h
Villain (old Asian man) in CO, ~100bb: calls $7
BB (white man in his 30s w/ shortstack of ~40bb): calls $7
Flop: Qc 5s 3h
BB checks, Hero bets $10, CO calls $10, BB folds
Hero bets $30, CO raises to $85, Hero?
I'll stop here because the turn is the main decision point. I was done with the hand after being called on the flop, but then I turned a FD + OESD. I decided to barrel pretty large because a) I picked up a bunch of equity, and b) I have next to no SD value, so x/c seems really bad. But in hindsight I'm not sure how much fold equity I have, given that villain's got a decent amount of Qx here, and his other hands like 77, 65s, 76s, and Ax wheel draws won't fold.
Villain's raise is for like half his stack, and calling another $55 would leave me with only about $70 behind. But I don't think jamming is good since he's got no bluffs in this spot, and I'd be getting it in bad. At least by flatting and seeing river I can save myself $70 if I brick. Plus I only need like 25% to call, which I'm more than getting.
June 21, 2019 | 3:43 p.m.
MP: $55.97 (Hero)
June 20, 2019 | 5:19 p.m.
For the 2nd hand with KK, I get that we check the A turn because villain may have some Ax hands and we don't want to value-own ourselves, plus even if he doesn't have Ax, it kills our action. But my question is this: would it be a legitimate strategy to c-bet the turn ultra small, like 25% pot, in order to squeeze value out of worse hands on an earlier street than giving him a free river? A tiny c-bet might even induce some bluffs from villain, though not very often since the A is better for our range than his. Granted there aren't many bad rivers for our hand, so there's not much downside in checking, and it's not great to bet with a hand that has become a bluff catcher OTT. But I wonder about this anyway.
June 20, 2019 | 2:47 a.m.
UTG: $137.76 (Hero)
June 8, 2019 | 9:04 p.m.
soutaz89 Polar means 3betting your strongest and weakest hands, and flat calling with your medium-strength hands.
Linear means 3betting with strong hands plus some medium-strong hands, then folding the rest and not having a flat calling range at all, usually.
June 5, 2019 | 2:52 p.m.
SB: $54.25 (Hero)
June 4, 2019 | 5:02 a.m.
Maybe it's ok to x/f my hand exact hand because I don't have a club, but normally I would think that a c-bet is useful to put pressure on his hands like 66, 78s, and 88-JJ. The Q hits him plenty, but I still have a decent range advantage on this board. I take your point about K and A turns having negative implied odds for me, though.
May 29, 2019 | 3:21 p.m.
SB: $80.26 (Hero)
May 28, 2019 | 12:58 a.m.
It's interesting that live poker is so limp heavy, since the rake in live cash games is often quite steep, which in theory incents agression preflop to avoid the rake. I guess it just goes to show how fishy live poker is in most places. (Unless of course OP was playing in a home game.)
May 23, 2019 | 12:16 a.m.
I wonder what would be harder, a pro writer transitioning to pro poker, or a poker pro transitioning to professional writing. This being a poker website filled with people know know how tough poker can be, I have no doubt that there's a bias toward saying poker is harder. Although I'm not a professional at either activity, I have a lot of experience in both fields, however, and imo it's a coin toss. Getting published is very hard.
May 22, 2019 | 10:09 p.m.
You weren't able to copy and paste the hand history into the hand converter? I don't think the suits of your hand were relevant in this specific hand, but often they can be useful info. Also, stack sizes are always relevant, so you need to include those too. Yet another reason why the actual hand history is helpful.
First of all, fold QJo pre vs UTG open. As played, I'm just flatting river because what worse hands can villain have, opening from UTG, that will bet/call this river? Basically just QTs. Maybe AA and KK, too, if the SPR is low enough by the river. But unless he's clueless he's checking those down. Your hand is actually just a bluff catcher since you lose to all his value bets except QTs (Q9s, KQ, AQ all beat you).
May 22, 2019 | 1:03 a.m.
UTG+1: 180,226 (Hero)
May 20, 2019 | 11:58 p.m.
I was similarly wondering why hero elected to bet 2/3 pot on both flop and turn. Normally I'd expect that hero has a range advantage on a Kxx flop that allows him to bet more like 1/3 pot. But since it's a fairly wet flop I'm guessing that's why sizing is larger? Larger sizing makes more sense on turn I suppose, particularly given your Ah.
May 17, 2019 | 4:13 a.m.
CO: $78.05 (Hero)
May 13, 2019 | 10:06 p.m.
I suppose I don't have as much of a flop range advantage as I originally thought. I was thinking that I had TT, 89s, perhaps T8s, and then draws like QJs and J9s. But I guess his overpairs still crush my pair+draw hands. I just think I have a nut advantage on this board by the turn, though, cause although he's got TT and QQ, too, those hands are heavier in my range, while his range is weighted toward JJ+ and AK.
May 13, 2019 | 2:32 a.m.
UTG: $108.86 (Hero)
May 11, 2019 | 5:59 p.m.
Great video once again Peter. In regard to randomization, couldn't we just set up some system based on the suits in our hand? Something along those lines appeals to me as well because I can rely on it while playing live poker then, too. For example, only bluff certain spots when your unsuited cards are the same colour, ie. diamond and heart, or club and spade. This isn't a fully formed idea but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
On a different note, I've also heard you mention that you size up your 3bets when using a linear 3betting range. I find that confusing because I've typically heard that a larger size works better with a polarized 3bet range, while a linear range suits a smaller size because you're 3betting somewhat wider. Additionally, it makes sense to me to size larger with a polarized range because in theory if someone is responding correctly they'll be flatting vs a polarized range, and sizing larger makes them play larger pots while capped. Maybe you just mentioned that in a specific situation vs a specific player, because later on you sized up using a polarized range after all.
May 6, 2019 | midnight
CO: 12,698 (Hero)
May 5, 2019 | 7:22 p.m.
April 8, 2019 | 2:05 a.m.
April 7, 2019 | 6:43 p.m.
March 31, 2019 | 9:47 p.m.
UTG: $115.22 (Hero)
March 4, 2019 | 1:32 a.m.
I think the snap overbet is the biggest thing to consider here though. That is usually indicative of strength. It's tough for him to have worse trips than me since he overbet the turn as well. I suppose KT and T9s could do that, but not often. In other words, I'm looking to beat pure bluffs with which villain overbet twice.
Feb. 28, 2019 | 10:01 p.m.
BB: $90.40 (Hero)
Feb. 27, 2019 | 4:30 p.m.
Great video Ryan. A few questions:
Your results for MTT and both SNG formats appear to show that you play way more hands from EP and even the SB than you do from LP, which is pretty counter-intuitive at first glance. I can only imagine it's because you make a special effort to defend your blinds given the price you're getting, and for EP because you get to open hands more often whereas in LP you're forced to fold a lot because of people opening ahead of you. Am I correct in those assumptions? Sometimes I think I'm playing too tight from EP when I play in both MTTs and in 6max of either SNGs or cash games. Any pointers you might have here would be great, in terms of the EP opening ranges you use.
In regard to your checklist, could you clarify what "DATA POINTS!" means? And also clarify what you're talking about in the two bullets that mention off-suit portions of villain's ranges.
Thanks very much!
Feb. 23, 2019 | 7:13 p.m.
Haha well I've succeeded in starting a debate, that's for sure. As for the other part, I'm yet to hear a compelling counter-argument to my reasoning, which has only reinforced my belief that I made the right decision. So far I've heard two criticisms that I can easily refute.
Villain could have KQ.
Response: Equal combos as KK, and a less plausible line.
My fold is exploitable.
Response: I agree that it is, but that alone doesn't necessitate calling. Villain doesn't know what I'm folding, so there's very little chance for him to exploit me in the future.