# Hoothoot

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Great videos so far Kevin, I appreciate your teaching style. One thing I struggle with in (live) MTTs is taking antes -- usually BB ante -- into account when calculating stack size. It often effectively doubles the size of the BB. If, say, the blind level is 50/100 with a 100 BB ante, do we simply consider the BB to be 200 when we calculate our stack size?

### March 20, 2024 | 2:20 a.m.

At around the 19:00 mark, I'm trying to figure out why the solver says KT, KJ, and QJ are calls but AT and AJ are almost all folds. Something to do with unblocking villain's bluffs, I assume. Please explain if you can.

### Feb. 15, 2024 | 1:11 a.m.

Thanks Peter, fantastic video. My question regards how bet sizing is supposed to change based on range advantage. My thinking was that the player with the range advantage gets to bet larger, however in the hand where you have KK on QQ56 facing a ~1/3 pot barrel, I believe you're saying that villain's range advantage lets him bet on the smaller side. Could you please clarify which approach is correct so I can better understand the proper theory?

### Oct. 16, 2021 | 5:24 p.m.

Hi Owen,

Random question: When people talk about taking different bluffing lines and say things like BXX, BXB, XXB, do those 3 letters refer to each street or just each players action? For example, does BXX mean c-bet flop, then turn goes x/x? Or does BXX mean c-bet flop (call), x/x turn, x river (then bluff)?

### Nov. 21, 2020 | 6:19 p.m.

Great video, I've long been hoping for SNG content on ROI. It's amazing to me how fishy even \$30 SNGs are; they don't seem much tougher than the \$7 level. Now I just need to bink a tourney so that I can get the bankroll to move up stakes instantly lol.

### June 2, 2020 | 3 a.m.

That's a good point. I guess my XR leaves me only with QJs, AsQs, KsQs for Qx on the turn.

### April 21, 2020 | 2:29 p.m.

Blinds: \$0.10/\$0.25 (6 Players) BN: crysler1: \$43.92
SB: professor_xxxx: \$25.48
BB: Hero: \$48.43 (Hero)
UTG: Melifaru: \$52.97
MP: Fedor_Holzzz: \$76.91
CO: BÃ„NGi: \$25.00
Preflop (\$0.35) Hero is BB with T T
Melifaru folds, Fedor_Holzzz raises to \$0.55, 3 folds, Hero raises to \$2.20, Fedor_Holzzz raises to \$5.25, Hero calls \$3.05
Flop (\$10.60) 9 T K
Hero checks, Fedor_Holzzz bets \$5.00, Hero raises to \$15.00, Fedor_Holzzz calls \$10.00
I almost considered not 3betting this hand given how deep we were, for precisely this reason lol. I'm not really sure if I'm supposed to XR a set on the flop when we're this deep either. I thought about it and decided to go for it since villain has a lot more combos of AA and AK than of KK. Then again, a bunch of AK combos probably check this board back or c-bet smaller.
Turn (\$40.60) 9 T K J
Hero checks, Fedor_Holzzz checks
Turn is interesting because he has QQ pre but I don't think he c-bets 1/2 pot with it. AQ prob doesn't 4bet pre either, and I have AQ, QQ, and occasionally KQs, so I def have the Qx advantage. But I don't know what I'm supposed to do cause I have a bluff catcher at this point, but I could potentially turn my set into a bluff if I think V is capable of folding top set (not likely).
River (\$40.60) 9 T K J 5
Hero

### April 19, 2020 | 10:14 p.m.

Blinds: t150/t300 (9 Players) MP: 17,328
MP+1: 18,996
MP+2: 4,543
CO: 19,840
BN: 40,008
SB: 11,620
BB: 20,512
UTG: 23,230 (Hero)
UTG+1: 23,923
Preflop (450) Hero is UTG with 8 9
Hero raises to 660, 2 folds, MP+1 calls 660, 5 folds
Flop (2,130) 7 5 8
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 950, Hero calls 950
Turn (4,030) 7 5 8 7
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 2,450, Hero calls 2,450
River (8,930) 7 5 8 7 3
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 14,896 and is all in
Hero?

### March 28, 2020 | 5:54 p.m.

In the first hand where you have KK, I'm surprised you give villain all the sets when you two are only ~25bb eff. I thought flatting small PPs is really only a thing when you're deeper -- I don't know what stack depth would be the threshold but let's say like 35bb+. You can tell me if I'm wrong about that.

### March 27, 2020 | 6:31 p.m.

To what extent does stack size influence minimum defence frequency? You mentioned in one of the hands that hero needed to defend light vs a small bet size, which makes sense. But it got me thinking, what if hero was short stacked such that villain's small bet still represented a significant portion of hero's stack? Does hero still need to defend at the same frequency in that situation as when he was deeper?

### March 25, 2020 | 9:04 p.m.

Peter do you think opening size matters much? I see you're opening about 2.4x, but I've seen others embrace a larger opening size like 3x at low and micro stakes in order to try and win more pots preflop and avoid rake by discouraging callers.

Also interested by your choice of c-bet sizing in the 4-bet pot at around 25mins. I would think we would want to bet range with a larger sizing on a board where we have not only the range advantage on balance, but the nut advantage.

### March 24, 2020 | 11 p.m.

Blinds: t150/t300 (9 Players) MP: 17,328
MP+1: 18,996
MP+2: 4,543
CO: 19,840
BN: 40,008
SB: 11,620
BB: 20,512
UTG: 23,230 (Hero)
UTG+1: 23,923
Preflop (450) Hero is UTG with 8 9
Hero raises to 660, 2 folds, MP+1 calls 660, 5 folds
Flop (2,130) 7 5 8
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 950, Hero calls 950
Turn (4,030) 7 5 8 7
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 2,450, Hero calls 2,450
River (8,930) 7 5 8 7 3
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 14,896 and is all in
Hero?

### Jan. 13, 2020 | 12:05 a.m.

I hadn't thought of going for the double x/r, but that's an interesting idea. And then if he checks back turn, I could even overbet pretty much any non-diamond river.

### July 29, 2019 | 5:54 p.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in MTT: 2-pair facing ~25bb turn jam
Blinds: t150/t300 (9 Players) CO: 9,385
BN: 14,608
SB: 11,648
BB: 15,253 (Hero)
UTG: 9,582
UTG+1: 11,742
MP: 8,724
MP+1: 7,408
MP+2: 13,228
Villain from Brazil playing 13/9 over 45 hands.
Preflop (450) Hero is BB with 6 A
5 folds, CO raises to 600, 2 folds, Hero calls 300
I considered 3betting but it's shitty if I get jammed on so decided just to flat
Flop (1,620) 6 A 8
Hero checks, CO bets 535, Hero raises to 1,650, CO calls 1,115
Turn (4,920) 6 A 8 J
Hero bets 3,000, CO raises to 7,105 and is all in
Not sure what the optimal sizing is here. I realize the problem started with my flop x/r sizing, but either way I'm going to have an awkward SPR on the turn. Open to recommendations in terms of sizings. Anyway villain jams and I want to call but in hindsight I actually don't think I beat much that he plays this way, apart from a monster combo draw. Getting a great price though.

### July 28, 2019 | 7:01 p.m.

Good standard call pre, well played postflop too. His ~ 1/4 pot sizing on the turn suggests he's got a monster in all likelihood, perhaps AA.

### July 24, 2019 | 8:37 p.m.

My first session playing 10nl on ROI there was an \$80 Splash Pot. It led to a 5-way all-in pre and I was forced to put my \$15 in the middle pre with like J8o, sigh.

### July 18, 2019 | 5:40 p.m.

devwil "Obviously, the drier the flop the smaller I bet; ditto if I'm at a range disadvantage."

This is something that confuses me because I feel like I've learned contradicting things about it. On the one hand it seems logical, as you say, to bet smaller when at a range disadvantage simply because we're exploitable if we routinely put too much money in the pot with weak hands. The corollary of course being to bet larger on boards where we have the range advantage.

On the other hand, how will we get value if we're sizing up with a range advantage? Like say in NLHE if CO opens, we 3-bet from SB and CO flats IP, and the flop is A74r, we have the clear range advantage. But I feel like in this situation we need only bet small (hence the popular strategy of c-betting 1/3 or 1/4 pot) because our range advantage compensates for our small bet size and allows us to win the pot very often. Unless we're against a calling station, why would we ever blast it there?

### July 18, 2019 | 4:53 p.m.

Blinds 100/200, no ante
Hero: 12k
UTG+2: covers (I think he had no more than the starting stack of 20k)

UTG calls 200, UTG+2 calls 200, folded around to Hero in SB with 8c8s who raises to 1500, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls 1500. (Pot: 3200)

Flop: 2h2s4h

Hero bets 1500, UTG+2 raises (quickly) to 5k. Hero?

No reads on villain, only 2 hours into tournament. He's a 30-something white guy who's mostly limped when VP\$IPing but sometimes opens to like 4x.

### July 13, 2019 | 10:16 p.m.

I realize I'm bumping an old thread but here I go. In the 65s hand, it seems to me that we're horribly imbalanced towards bluffs in the range PIO advocates x/r'ing. For value we have 65s, A5s, and 55. That's only 7 combos of value. But then we're raising many of our 7x, gutshots, medium PPs, and even a few A- and K-high hands. Vs a range like that, villain should just ship all his hands 99+ and AJ+, forcing us to either call off crushed or fold a ton of equity.

### July 10, 2019 | 4:22 a.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in PLO: Bad turn OOP in 3-bet pot
Blinds: \$0.10/\$0.25 (6 Players) BN: \$43.15
SB: \$58.35 (Hero)
BB: \$114.92
UTG: \$31.87
MP: \$25.00
CO: \$12.50
Preflop (\$0.35) Hero is SB with J T Q 9
UTG folds, MP raises to \$0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to \$2.05, BB folds, MP calls \$1.45
Flop (\$4.35) 5 T J
Hero bets \$4.17, MP calls \$4.17
Turn (\$12.69) 5 T J 9
Hero checks, MP bets \$8.51

### July 9, 2019 | 1:39 a.m.

Blinds: \$0.25/\$0.50 (6 Players) BB: \$123.63
UTG: \$61.19
MP: \$158.56
CO: \$77.69
BN: \$80.33 (Hero)
SB: \$61.03
Preflop (\$0.75) Hero is BN with J A
UTG calls \$0.50, MP folds, CO calls \$0.50, Hero raises to \$2.75, 2 folds, UTG folds, CO calls \$2.25
Flop (\$6.75) 9 4 A
CO bets \$6.50, Hero calls \$6.50
Turn (\$19.75) 9 4 A 5
CO bets \$6.50, Hero calls \$6.50
River (\$32.75) 9 4 A 5 K
CO bets \$4.50, Hero calls \$4.50
Final Pot CO wins and shows a flush, Ace high.
CO wins \$39.75
Rake is \$2.00

### July 4, 2019 | 4:04 a.m.

I understand that as OOP 3-better we're betting more often on dry boards and checking/betting polarized on FD boards since IP caller has more suited combos than we do. What I don't understand is why we're overwhelmingly checking the Axx boards that have a FD. Wouldn't we be giving IP a free card when we have a range advantage, and letting villain realize his equity?

My confusion extends to boards like T9x and JTx, which I would assume is better for IP's range and thus demands more checking from OOP, but if I'm not mistaken I see quite the opposite in your chart.

### July 3, 2019 | 12:14 a.m.

Yes I've watched that video a few times, it's helpful alright. I'm just seeking clarification on this one technicality rather than watching it again.

### June 29, 2019 | 8:53 p.m.

Post | Hoothoot posted in Chatter: Theory question about 1-A

When you are calculating 1-A in order to determine what portion of your range you must defend against a bet, do you reevaluate the calculation on every street? Or is it for your starting range for the whole hand? As an example, here's a hand I played where this came into question.

I open 77 from CO, BB 3-bets, I flat IP.

Flop: T83r, he bets 1/4 pot, I call. (Need to defend ~80%)

Turn: 8s, he bets 2/3 pot, I call. (Need to defend ~60%)

River: Qh, he jams for a pot-sized bet. Hero? (Need to defend ~50%)

So in other words, since my calling range becomes progressively winnowed down (eg. I lose bottom 20% of my range on the flop), I am calling turn with the remaining 60% of my range, and calling river with the next remaining 50%, correct? (Which is to say, much less than 60% and 50% of my preflop 3-bet flatting range.)

Thanks!

### June 29, 2019 | 6:34 p.m.

If you had bricked the turn on that very first hand with T8cc, would you check or bet again? And if you check and he bets, how do you proceed with such a monster draw against various sizings?

Also, in the very last hand with KJss, how would you react if villain had checked the river instead of jamming? I personally struggle with spots where I need to bluff to win vs his A-high hands and random underpair bluffs, but that I feel might be pretty transparent and that villain is likely to bluffcatch fairly often, so I feel cornered into making a suicidal bluff myself.

### June 29, 2019 | 12:28 a.m.

In the KK hand beginning at about 34:20, how would you play a value hand like AK or Ax suited (if you ever use those as 4-bet bluffs) that has become two-pair or the wheel straight? For the sake of balance I'm guessing you have to check all or most of those on turn and river in order to protect the times you have KK or QQ like in this situation. I was going to say that the only value hand I can imagine betting river with is like TT because it unblocks villain's Ax hands, except I don't think we're 4-betting TT pre.

### June 26, 2019 | 4:14 p.m.

Thanks to both of you for your feedback. Upon further reflection I think the best line is actually to check turn. Much of his range apart from Qx and sets will check back and give me a free river, which if I brick I can think about bluffing vs a capped range. If he bets I can call getting a terrific price. I think my lack of SD value is actually less damaging than I first thought. It's my lack of fold equity that really makes betting a worse line, I think.

### June 22, 2019 | 2:36 p.m.

So I recently played a live 1/2 hand where I got into a tricky spot. Admittedly I should have folded pre with this hand, but I had been playing very tight up until this point and there were no strong players at the table, so I got a bit fresh. Anyway, the action went like this:

Hero in HJ, ~90bb: Opens \$7 with Jh4h
Villain (old Asian man) in CO, ~100bb: calls \$7
BB (white man in his 30s w/ shortstack of ~40bb): calls \$7
(Pot \$22)

Flop: Qc 5s 3h

BB checks, Hero bets \$10, CO calls \$10, BB folds
(Pot \$42)

Turn: 6h

Hero bets \$30, CO raises to \$85, Hero?

1. I'll stop here because the turn is the main decision point. I was done with the hand after being called on the flop, but then I turned a FD + OESD. I decided to barrel pretty large because a) I picked up a bunch of equity, and b) I have next to no SD value, so x/c seems really bad. But in hindsight I'm not sure how much fold equity I have, given that villain's got a decent amount of Qx here, and his other hands like 77, 65s, 76s, and Ax wheel draws won't fold.

2. Villain's raise is for like half his stack, and calling another \$55 would leave me with only about \$70 behind. But I don't think jamming is good since he's got no bluffs in this spot, and I'd be getting it in bad. At least by flatting and seeing river I can save myself \$70 if I brick. Plus I only need like 25% to call, which I'm more than getting.

Thoughts?

### June 21, 2019 | 3:43 p.m.

Blinds: \$0.25/\$0.50 (6 Players) BN: \$80.69
SB: \$29.11
BB: \$56.56
UTG: \$50.00
MP: \$55.97 (Hero)
CO: \$61.64
Preflop (\$0.75) Hero is MP with T T
UTG folds, Hero raises to \$1.25, CO raises to \$4.00, BN folds, SB calls \$3.75, BB folds, Hero calls \$2.75
I could've elected to 4bet here and iso the fish in the SB, but 4bet/folding TT is a nightmare, and calling it off is gross too.
Flop (\$12.50) 8 8 9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets \$3.92, SB calls \$3.92, Hero calls \$3.92
I thought about x/r'ing here, but I felt like I'd be overplaying my hand, and folding seems bad too.
Turn (\$24.26) 8 8 9 J
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
CO checked back turn pretty quickly, which given the river action is pretty suspicious.
River (\$24.26) 8 8 9 J 3
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets \$24.89, SB folds