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30 points

I hadn't thought of going for the double x/r, but that's an interesting idea. And then if he checks back turn, I could even overbet pretty much any non-diamond river.

July 29, 2019 | 5:54 p.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in MTT: 2-pair facing ~25bb turn jam
Blinds: t150/t300 (9 Players) CO: 9,385
BN: 14,608
SB: 11,648
BB: 15,253 (Hero)
UTG: 9,582
UTG+1: 11,742
MP: 8,724
MP+1: 7,408
MP+2: 13,228
Villain from Brazil playing 13/9 over 45 hands.
Preflop (450) Hero is BB with 6 A
5 folds, CO raises to 600, 2 folds, Hero calls 300
I considered 3betting but it's shitty if I get jammed on so decided just to flat
Flop (1,620) 6 A 8
Hero checks, CO bets 535, Hero raises to 1,650, CO calls 1,115
Turn (4,920) 6 A 8 J
Hero bets 3,000, CO raises to 7,105 and is all in
Not sure what the optimal sizing is here. I realize the problem started with my flop x/r sizing, but either way I'm going to have an awkward SPR on the turn. Open to recommendations in terms of sizings. Anyway villain jams and I want to call but in hindsight I actually don't think I beat much that he plays this way, apart from a monster combo draw. Getting a great price though.

July 28, 2019 | 7:01 p.m.

Good standard call pre, well played postflop too. His ~ 1/4 pot sizing on the turn suggests he's got a monster in all likelihood, perhaps AA.

July 24, 2019 | 8:37 p.m.

My first session playing 10nl on ROI there was an $80 Splash Pot. It led to a 5-way all-in pre and I was forced to put my $15 in the middle pre with like J8o, sigh.

July 18, 2019 | 5:40 p.m.

devwil "Obviously, the drier the flop the smaller I bet; ditto if I'm at a range disadvantage."

This is something that confuses me because I feel like I've learned contradicting things about it. On the one hand it seems logical, as you say, to bet smaller when at a range disadvantage simply because we're exploitable if we routinely put too much money in the pot with weak hands. The corollary of course being to bet larger on boards where we have the range advantage.

On the other hand, how will we get value if we're sizing up with a range advantage? Like say in NLHE if CO opens, we 3-bet from SB and CO flats IP, and the flop is A74r, we have the clear range advantage. But I feel like in this situation we need only bet small (hence the popular strategy of c-betting 1/3 or 1/4 pot) because our range advantage compensates for our small bet size and allows us to win the pot very often. Unless we're against a calling station, why would we ever blast it there?

July 18, 2019 | 4:53 p.m.

Blinds 100/200, no ante
Hero: 12k
UTG+2: covers (I think he had no more than the starting stack of 20k)

UTG calls 200, UTG+2 calls 200, folded around to Hero in SB with 8c8s who raises to 1500, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls 1500. (Pot: 3200)

Flop: 2h2s4h

Hero bets 1500, UTG+2 raises (quickly) to 5k. Hero?

No reads on villain, only 2 hours into tournament. He's a 30-something white guy who's mostly limped when VP$IPing but sometimes opens to like 4x.

July 13, 2019 | 10:16 p.m.

I realize I'm bumping an old thread but here I go. In the 65s hand, it seems to me that we're horribly imbalanced towards bluffs in the range PIO advocates x/r'ing. For value we have 65s, A5s, and 55. That's only 7 combos of value. But then we're raising many of our 7x, gutshots, medium PPs, and even a few A- and K-high hands. Vs a range like that, villain should just ship all his hands 99+ and AJ+, forcing us to either call off crushed or fold a ton of equity.

July 10, 2019 | 4:22 a.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in PLO: Bad turn OOP in 3-bet pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $43.15
SB: $58.35 (Hero)
BB: $114.92
UTG: $31.87
MP: $25.00
CO: $12.50
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with J T Q 9
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.05, BB folds, MP calls $1.45
Flop ($4.35) 5 T J
Hero bets $4.17, MP calls $4.17
Turn ($12.69) 5 T J 9
Hero checks, MP bets $8.51

July 9, 2019 | 1:39 a.m.

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BB: $123.63
UTG: $61.19
MP: $158.56
CO: $77.69
BN: $80.33 (Hero)
SB: $61.03
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BN with J A
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, 2 folds, UTG folds, CO calls $2.25
Flop ($6.75) 9 4 A
CO bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50
Turn ($19.75) 9 4 A 5
CO bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50
River ($32.75) 9 4 A 5 K
CO bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50
Final Pot CO wins and shows a flush, Ace high.
CO wins $39.75
Rake is $2.00

July 4, 2019 | 4:04 a.m.

I understand that as OOP 3-better we're betting more often on dry boards and checking/betting polarized on FD boards since IP caller has more suited combos than we do. What I don't understand is why we're overwhelmingly checking the Axx boards that have a FD. Wouldn't we be giving IP a free card when we have a range advantage, and letting villain realize his equity?

My confusion extends to boards like T9x and JTx, which I would assume is better for IP's range and thus demands more checking from OOP, but if I'm not mistaken I see quite the opposite in your chart.

July 3, 2019 | 12:14 a.m.

Yes I've watched that video a few times, it's helpful alright. I'm just seeking clarification on this one technicality rather than watching it again.

June 29, 2019 | 8:53 p.m.

Post | Hoothoot posted in Chatter: Theory question about 1-A

When you are calculating 1-A in order to determine what portion of your range you must defend against a bet, do you reevaluate the calculation on every street? Or is it for your starting range for the whole hand? As an example, here's a hand I played where this came into question.

I open 77 from CO, BB 3-bets, I flat IP.

Flop: T83r, he bets 1/4 pot, I call. (Need to defend ~80%)

Turn: 8s, he bets 2/3 pot, I call. (Need to defend ~60%)

River: Qh, he jams for a pot-sized bet. Hero? (Need to defend ~50%)

So in other words, since my calling range becomes progressively winnowed down (eg. I lose bottom 20% of my range on the flop), I am calling turn with the remaining 60% of my range, and calling river with the next remaining 50%, correct? (Which is to say, much less than 60% and 50% of my preflop 3-bet flatting range.)


June 29, 2019 | 6:34 p.m.

If you had bricked the turn on that very first hand with T8cc, would you check or bet again? And if you check and he bets, how do you proceed with such a monster draw against various sizings?

Also, in the very last hand with KJss, how would you react if villain had checked the river instead of jamming? I personally struggle with spots where I need to bluff to win vs his A-high hands and random underpair bluffs, but that I feel might be pretty transparent and that villain is likely to bluffcatch fairly often, so I feel cornered into making a suicidal bluff myself.

June 29, 2019 | 12:28 a.m.

In the KK hand beginning at about 34:20, how would you play a value hand like AK or Ax suited (if you ever use those as 4-bet bluffs) that has become two-pair or the wheel straight? For the sake of balance I'm guessing you have to check all or most of those on turn and river in order to protect the times you have KK or QQ like in this situation. I was going to say that the only value hand I can imagine betting river with is like TT because it unblocks villain's Ax hands, except I don't think we're 4-betting TT pre.

June 26, 2019 | 4:14 p.m.

Thanks to both of you for your feedback. Upon further reflection I think the best line is actually to check turn. Much of his range apart from Qx and sets will check back and give me a free river, which if I brick I can think about bluffing vs a capped range. If he bets I can call getting a terrific price. I think my lack of SD value is actually less damaging than I first thought. It's my lack of fold equity that really makes betting a worse line, I think.

June 22, 2019 | 2:36 p.m.

So I recently played a live 1/2 hand where I got into a tricky spot. Admittedly I should have folded pre with this hand, but I had been playing very tight up until this point and there were no strong players at the table, so I got a bit fresh. Anyway, the action went like this:

Hero in HJ, ~90bb: Opens $7 with Jh4h
Villain (old Asian man) in CO, ~100bb: calls $7
BB (white man in his 30s w/ shortstack of ~40bb): calls $7
(Pot $22)

Flop: Qc 5s 3h

BB checks, Hero bets $10, CO calls $10, BB folds
(Pot $42)

Turn: 6h

Hero bets $30, CO raises to $85, Hero?

  1. I'll stop here because the turn is the main decision point. I was done with the hand after being called on the flop, but then I turned a FD + OESD. I decided to barrel pretty large because a) I picked up a bunch of equity, and b) I have next to no SD value, so x/c seems really bad. But in hindsight I'm not sure how much fold equity I have, given that villain's got a decent amount of Qx here, and his other hands like 77, 65s, 76s, and Ax wheel draws won't fold.

  2. Villain's raise is for like half his stack, and calling another $55 would leave me with only about $70 behind. But I don't think jamming is good since he's got no bluffs in this spot, and I'd be getting it in bad. At least by flatting and seeing river I can save myself $70 if I brick. Plus I only need like 25% to call, which I'm more than getting.


June 21, 2019 | 3:43 p.m.

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $80.69
SB: $29.11
BB: $56.56
UTG: $50.00
MP: $55.97 (Hero)
CO: $61.64
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is MP with T T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO raises to $4.00, BN folds, SB calls $3.75, BB folds, Hero calls $2.75
I could've elected to 4bet here and iso the fish in the SB, but 4bet/folding TT is a nightmare, and calling it off is gross too.
Flop ($12.50) 8 8 9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $3.92, SB calls $3.92, Hero calls $3.92
I thought about x/r'ing here, but I felt like I'd be overplaying my hand, and folding seems bad too.
Turn ($24.26) 8 8 9 J
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
CO checked back turn pretty quickly, which given the river action is pretty suspicious.
River ($24.26) 8 8 9 J 3
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $24.89, SB folds

June 20, 2019 | 5:19 p.m.

For the 2nd hand with KK, I get that we check the A turn because villain may have some Ax hands and we don't want to value-own ourselves, plus even if he doesn't have Ax, it kills our action. But my question is this: would it be a legitimate strategy to c-bet the turn ultra small, like 25% pot, in order to squeeze value out of worse hands on an earlier street than giving him a free river? A tiny c-bet might even induce some bluffs from villain, though not very often since the A is better for our range than his. Granted there aren't many bad rivers for our hand, so there's not much downside in checking, and it's not great to bet with a hand that has become a bluff catcher OTT. But I wonder about this anyway.

June 20, 2019 | 2:47 a.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in NLHE: 2-pair on river facing huge raise
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $281.03
SB: $80.14
BB: $93.37
UTG: $137.76 (Hero)
MP: $56.85
CO: $31.27
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 3 A
Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BN raises to $4.38, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.13
Flop ($9.51) A 6 K
Hero checks, BN bets $2.35, Hero calls $2.35
Turn ($14.21) A 6 K 3
Hero checks, BN checks
River ($14.21) A 6 K 3 4
Hero bets $7.02, BN raises to $35.40

June 8, 2019 | 9:04 p.m.

soutaz89 Polar means 3betting your strongest and weakest hands, and flat calling with your medium-strength hands.

Linear means 3betting with strong hands plus some medium-strong hands, then folding the rest and not having a flat calling range at all, usually.

June 5, 2019 | 2:52 p.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in NLHE: 2nd nut flush facing gross runout
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $251.17
SB: $54.25 (Hero)
BB: $46.64
UTG: $51.25
MP: $57.39
CO: $277.88
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with K T
3 folds, BN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.00, BB calls $0.75
Normally I'd 3bet, but villain is a huge nit so I'd rather not get 4bet off my equity with a hand that flops well.
Flop ($3.75) 2 J T
Hero checks, BB checks, BN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $7.00, BB folds, BN calls $5.00
Turn ($17.75) 2 J T 4
Hero bets $11.80, BN calls $11.80
River ($41.35) 2 J T 4 6
Hero checks, BN bets $15.55
Sized my turn bet as such to leave myself with < pot sized bet on river, except that the river is disgusting. No idea what to do.

June 4, 2019 | 5:02 a.m.

To clarify, you mean flop is a clear b/f, not x/f, right?

May 29, 2019 | 9:23 p.m.

Maybe it's ok to x/f my hand exact hand because I don't have a club, but normally I would think that a c-bet is useful to put pressure on his hands like 66, 78s, and 88-JJ. The Q hits him plenty, but I still have a decent range advantage on this board. I take your point about K and A turns having negative implied odds for me, though.

May 29, 2019 | 3:21 p.m.

Hand History | Hoothoot posted in NLHE: Hero call in 3bet pot?
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $76.85
SB: $80.26 (Hero)
BB: $73.94
UTG: $53.74
MP: $50.00
CO: $50.61
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with A K
UTG raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BB folds, UTG calls $4.00
Flop ($11.50) Q 7 2
Hero bets $5.68, UTG raises to $15.26, Hero calls $9.58
Villain is a Brazilian reg I believe. I got sticky here because it doesn't make much sense for villain to have a value raising range on this flop. Some of his QQ combos 4bet pre, and the ones that flat pre should also mostly flat this dry flop IP. Same with his other sets. Plus I don't block clubs draws.
Turn ($42.02) Q 7 2 5
Hero checks, UTG bets $32.98 and is all in
So the question is: continue being a hero or give him credit? I don't block hearts, either.

May 28, 2019 | 12:58 a.m.

It's interesting that live poker is so limp heavy, since the rake in live cash games is often quite steep, which in theory incents agression preflop to avoid the rake. I guess it just goes to show how fishy live poker is in most places. (Unless of course OP was playing in a home game.)

May 23, 2019 | 12:16 a.m.

I wonder what would be harder, a pro writer transitioning to pro poker, or a poker pro transitioning to professional writing. This being a poker website filled with people know know how tough poker can be, I have no doubt that there's a bias toward saying poker is harder. Although I'm not a professional at either activity, I have a lot of experience in both fields, however, and imo it's a coin toss. Getting published is very hard.

May 22, 2019 | 10:09 p.m.

Comment | Hoothoot commented on Did I punt the river?

You weren't able to copy and paste the hand history into the hand converter? I don't think the suits of your hand were relevant in this specific hand, but often they can be useful info. Also, stack sizes are always relevant, so you need to include those too. Yet another reason why the actual hand history is helpful.

First of all, fold QJo pre vs UTG open. As played, I'm just flatting river because what worse hands can villain have, opening from UTG, that will bet/call this river? Basically just QTs. Maybe AA and KK, too, if the SPR is low enough by the river. But unless he's clueless he's checking those down. Your hand is actually just a bluff catcher since you lose to all his value bets except QTs (Q9s, KQ, AQ all beat you).

May 22, 2019 | 1:03 a.m.

Blinds: t800/t1,600 (8 Players) SB: 17,710
BB: 54,621
UTG: 14,579
UTG+1: 180,226 (Hero)
MP: 34,407
MP+1: 49,838
CO: 38,356
BN: 66,263
Preflop (2,400) Hero is UTG+1 with T T
UTG folds, Hero raises to 3,520, 3 folds, BN calls 3,520, 2 folds
Flop (11,040) 8 7 Q
Hero checks, BN bets 5,520, Hero calls 5,520
Turn (22,080) 8 7 Q T
Hero checks, BN checks
I was going to c/r turn after I turned a set here if I had been given the chance.
River (22,080) 8 7 Q T J
Hero checks, BN bets 16,560

May 20, 2019 | 11:58 p.m.

I was similarly wondering why hero elected to bet 2/3 pot on both flop and turn. Normally I'd expect that hero has a range advantage on a Kxx flop that allows him to bet more like 1/3 pot. But since it's a fairly wet flop I'm guessing that's why sizing is larger? Larger sizing makes more sense on turn I suppose, particularly given your Ah.

May 17, 2019 | 4:13 a.m.

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