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Will I be able to play at launch in China? Sick of collusions in App based sites already! Also curious about deposit and withdrawal methods regarding China if I was able to play cuz it’s usually a pain in the ass in most cases when I played on other sites

Nov. 23, 2018 | 7:48 a.m.

If I may ask what’s my options regarding deposit and cash out as a Chinese player? I know how it works in weatern countries cuz I used to live abroad but in China it seems the only way to cash out on Pokerstars is playing their live mtt using the money in your account.

April 13, 2018 | 12:21 a.m.

Even I’m from China where we invented all those poker apps I can’t wait to play on your site Phil! Long live poker!

April 13, 2018 | 12:10 a.m., what an announcement. It will start after...well...3 days. I think Hyper Tubro HUSNG players suffer the most. Their action has already been screwed by Spin&Go and now this. And we can say goodbye to the profitability of any low stakes HU battle, either in HU tables or empty 6-Max tables.

Moreover, I think low stakes PLO is probably no longer worth playing at all. According to another thread earlier,, the winrate in PLO regular tables is only slightly better than that in NLH regular tables of the same level while the winrate in Zoom PLO is absurb...Even North Korean people can earn a better hourly rate than Zoom PLO25 players. And that's all before the change. So it is reasonable to guess that after the change the winrate in, say, PLO50 would be the same as NL50, if not less.

So here comes the question. In finance people measure the performance of a portfolio by Sharp Ratio, which equals risk premium divided by volatility. Basically it means you need to consider both reward and risk when you judge an investment. Thus the question is, if we can only win the same in both NLH and PLO, why do we bear the much bigger variance? For fun? Yes PLO is way more fun than NLH, but if you are a serious player who is trying to make a living playing poker. Fun should not be your priority. George Soros, one of the best hedge fund managers, if not the best, said once, "Good investing is boring". In this case, good investing refers to NLH.

Any thoughts?

Oct. 30, 2014 | 11 p.m.

Post | Moonwalker posted in NLHE: Facing Random Shove

Hi all,

I wonder what's your calling range facing random shove from unknown players, would the range be slightly different if you open normally and villian makes a 40x 3bet compare to the guy just open shove his stack ?

May 11, 2014 | 10:44 p.m.

Hey Carl,

I think I would like to put this specific hand into my x/c range to pretect stuff like AK or AQ, your opponent's entire range has at most 2 outs on you expcet 22, which I doubt he'll defend in sb at the first place if he's a reg. By checking you keep them in the pot and give them chance to hit something with their air which then might pay you off for one street or two. I will x/c two street and mostly likely c/r river unless I have some very strong reads that I was outdrawed.

May 8, 2014 | 11:41 p.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

Sure it does! If that is the case I would move up once Pokerstars stop screwing me. BTW mind reveal your own winrates?

May 8, 2014 | 10:08 p.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

BTW I bought leak buster and it gives me an A grade regarding my whole NL25 sample. Does it mean something when I evaluate my poker skill?

May 6, 2014 | 1:55 a.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

I think 2 digits winrate @ a regular table might be possible but in zoom games you have to share every fish with the whole player pool. Can't imagine someone who dominates that hard stays in that level.

May 6, 2014 | 1:49 a.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

That's what I assumed...I always think that 5bb/100 was the limit @ any zoom games. Anyone with a better winrate than that would be moving up already. I didn't move up because as I said before, my "evbb" was 4bb+/100 but my actual winrate was only 2bb+/100 so Pokerstars screwed me pretty hard. In April I played only 28k hands yet ran 18.5 bi under ev. Can't believe it's a NLHE downswing, if I was playing PLO I probably gone broke already. Anyway thx for your reply

May 6, 2014 | 1:47 a.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

Seriously? How many regs are able to do that? IMO 8bb/100h rake make it mission impossible.

May 4, 2014 | 9:42 p.m.

Yes Christoph Vogelsang is a German but currently located in London as he studys Finance as a masters student in LSE, The London School of Economics and Political Science. I like him so much because I am a masters student major in Finance myself but in a much less famous university and play much lower stakes poker.

BTW if you had watched the whole episode of that EPT High Roller, you would have learnt what I know :-)

May 4, 2014 | 2:38 a.m.

26071985=Tight-Man1=Christoph Vogelsang,he shows up in live circuit recently and I have a lot of respect to this guy. He plays the highest stakes online and meantime studys in LSE for master degree in Risk and Finance. How could you do those two things at the same time?!

May 3, 2014 | 10:02 p.m.

I have to defend Mush and NoHubris here. They are the most keen members of the forum and I am one of those who benefits from their posts. There is nothing unusual if they give hearts to each other's posts so frequently since they do post more frequently than others and those posts are usually helpful. Also it's understandable for someone to give a lot of hearts to certian people just because he likes the other guy. For example, if Phil post something, anything, it would be highly likely to recevie hearts from everyone who reads it. However I find it abusrb for OP to receive hearts from those ridiculously meaningless post as NoHubris showed us. IMO if the post is pointless poker wise then in order to deserve a heart it should at least contain something funny like a picture or whatnot.

May 2, 2014 | 4:54 a.m.

FYI I've watched every single NLHE video on RIO, so really appreciate your work:-)

May 2, 2014 | 3:17 a.m.

As someone who plays NL25 frequently, I think a reasonable reg here would donk both strong draws and sets, but they usually don't going to details on flop texture with this coarse balance strategy, since 77 is the only set combo possible here and 7 fell on the turn. I think this is a must call. However if you have specific reads things would be different. There are tons of fish in NL25 who are totally unpredictable. Something with a 7 won't be out of the question and you do need to worry about stuff like KQ. But overall I still think it's a easy call since your hand is too strong to fold and the turn is perfect for you.

May 2, 2014 | 3:10 a.m.

Regarding your stack size I think you should 4bet larger or just fold. With this price plus the implied odds and position I'm defending with my entire 3betting range here. It creates too good of a spot for CO to 5bet light, or, if he's calling, his range either got you dominated or play well against you in position. There's nothing you can do with both of you are deep and he's got relative position on you, it is part of the game when good opponents take advantage of you under this kind of situation, and at the end of the day, KJs does belong to the bottom of the UTG opening range.

May 2, 2014 | 2:55 a.m.

This is one of the most helpful videos I've watched on RIO!Cheers Nick!

May 2, 2014 | 1:01 a.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

Yea I am aware of that. I wish I could have your winrate at zoom games lol ;-).

May 1, 2014 | 4:12 a.m.

Graph of April, game is NL25 zoom

Didn't play much due to mid-term exams. Got straight As so good run at exams. But hell I ran like shit in poker. 28k hands and ran 18.5 bi under ev. Miss those days I played live in my homeland China and never had a losing month or even a losing streak in 2 years. btw anyone can offer me some help regarding my other thread? Appreciate any useful information

May 1, 2014 | 4:03 a.m.

Comment | Moonwalker commented on Zoom winrate

Hi mush,

Thx for your reply. As a matter of fact, I have read this whole thread before I posting here. His ev winrate is 5bb/100 actually. But first of all, I'd imagine this guy to be the very best player in the player pool. Secondly, it's been a year so the game should be tougher nowadays. Rake at NL25 is 8bb/100 which sucks. But it's nearly the same in NL50, therefore if I can't beat NL50 for at least 2bb+ it's meaningless to stand the higher variance. Is a 4bb/100 good enough winrate to consider moving up?

April 30, 2014 | 9:30 p.m.

Post | Moonwalker posted in Chatter: Zoom winrate

Hi all,

As an amateur player who used to make decent money from soft live games in my hometown, I recently move aboard for studying and in the city I live there is no live poker rooms. Therefore I have to start grind online if I still wanna earn myself some pocket change from poker. But anyway it's still way better than serving dishes in a restaurant right? I chose zoom as my main game cuz it's easier to 4 tabling zoom on my laptop than opening 12 regualr tables. So I would like to learn something about winrate in zoom games from you guys who are more experienced players. From NL25, which IMO is the lowest level you can make some reasonable spare money, to NL500, which is the highest zoom games regularly running these days. What kind of winrate could be consider as standard for an average reg? And what kind of winrate could make you confident enough to move up? Is a 100k hand a big enough sample for players to evaluate their winrates? I am currently a 4 evbb winner in NL25 for about 100k hands but as I said before, I have earned a bit from the days I played live so bankroll won't be a problem when I consider if I should move up. But I would love to make sure that I am skilled enough before testing the water.

April 30, 2014 | 4:17 a.m.

Hey Felipe,

A coach from other site said that in NL200 zoom and below, all balance requried is that you have both bluff and value in every spot, nothing more than that. This concept even applies to most NL500 cases except facing top pros. Do you agree?

April 25, 2014 | 2:02 a.m.

Hi all,

I've noticed that there have been more than one thread where people discussing RIO's subscription policy, obviously a lot of essential members, myself included, want more materials than the current essential plan offers, willing to pay more of course, maybe double the $10, maybe triple it but defintely can't afford 100 bucks every month.

Meantime, I strongly doubt if people watch every video they got access to. I mean, I'm a low stakes NLHE grinder, I probably watch PLO or MTT videos for fun at most once or twice a month. Mostly becasue it's Phil's video;-). And I suspect there are a lot of members just like me.

So, my suggestion is. Why not classify RIO subscription plans by the amount of videos you can watch every month? For example, RIO offers two videos per day, that's roughly 60 videos per month. If you subscribed a $10 plan, you can get, say, 10 access to all RIO's videos per month. If you paid $100 obviously you get yourself a "buffet" plan. RIO could offer multiable options in between. And There could still be difference between essential and elite videos with essential videos requires 1 access if you want to watch and elite videos requires 2 or 3. People would have the chance to choose whether they want to spend their money on a really helpful video at the stakes they play for improving or take a peek at the nosebleeding action for entertainment.

Just some personal thoughts. Welcome to discuss!

April 24, 2014 | 11:43 a.m.

IMO running sims is trying to find the best line possible to defend your estimation of villain's range, which based on the information you collected. Say if we could take a peek at our opponent's actual hand, we would be able to decide our best line within seconds, which in fact is running the sims using our brain, because it's easy to do that with the narrowest range possible. So the most important thing is still how you estimate your opponent's range, with either HUD, tells or some specific reads. The narrower range you can put villain on, the better result you would get by running sims. However running sims is only helpful if you put your opponent on a range which towards the right direction in the first place. If you get the range totally wrong, you are making mistakes anyway with or without running sims. That being said, I don't like running sims myself cuz I feel that every single spot is unique, it is too hard to run into the same spot again even if you learn something from the sims. Plus it's really boring lol. Just some personal ideas.

April 18, 2014 | 5:46 a.m.

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