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16:36 once we pot and villain raises there will be 153 in the middle with only 125 left so we will see < 33%. great video as always!

Oct. 18, 2020 | 12:35 p.m.

what should our RFI frequency be in a game with three blinds 1/2/4 structure when we are the button?

Oct. 13, 2020 | 12:37 a.m.

20:50

just thought this was a nice way to think about the hand, in terms of how many value bets we have on the river, and how that should dictate our bluffing frequency.

Oct. 8, 2020 | 8:29 p.m.

In terms of how we can study and benefit from GTO play, I don't think it is possible or recommended to try to emulate the machines. Instead we should try to understand what are the advantages of some of the things they are doing, and allow that to influence our own decisions. Are we never bluffing the flop in heads up pots while the machine is doing a ton of it? Then let's add in the most profitable bluffs and see what happens. We can observe trends, like the machine likes to "slowplay" (check back heads up in position for example) certain sets. We can theorize that this is so we don't get run over on turn bricks or just to penalize our opponent's turn aggression in some manner. Then we can observe that the machine likes to check back certain sets, those which have an additional board pair, blocking your chances of a full house, those which block your opponents GII or semi bluffing range. We can observe the machine likes to "slowplay" bottom set more than top set. And we can make some adjustments and see what happens.

Oct. 8, 2020 | midnight

Basically, solvers come up with complicated strategies that are "game theory optimal" GTO. Essentially, these are strategies that cannot be beaten, only tied. By bluffing, semi bluffing, value betting, checking, raising, calling etc. at just the right frequencies, any strategy which deviates from this GTO strategy will lose. If you don't bluff catch enough then the gto strategy will steal too many pots from you. Bluff catch too often and you will get value bet to death. Take too many check call lines to induce bluffs? Then you will lose value and lose pots which more aggressive play would have won / saved.

I imagine these machines are programmed to try all manner of different strategies and eventually one rises to the top. Not really sure.

Oct. 7, 2020 | 11:56 p.m.

Well I'm officially confused, because originally you said you were winning a lot on the button and losing in the BB (which is standard), and now you are saying you are talking about your overall winrate.

Oct. 7, 2020 | 11:50 p.m.

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i am losing 20bb per 100 at 5c/10c over 20k hands so you are right i would actually lose less folding every hand!"|

If you folded every hand, your loss rate in the bb would be 100 bb / 100. Your loss rate in the BB is only calculated based on hands you are actually in the BB. A loss rate of 20 bb / 100 in the BB is actually very good, we generally aim for a loss rate of 50 bb / 100, although in a game with lots of loose limpers you can do much better.

Oct. 7, 2020 | 10:32 a.m.

Comment | plolearnerguy commented on mid set

So that was basically my line of thought as well. Vision plays this hand as a turn check call, and I think the reason is we need to have some very strong hands in our c/c, c/c, c range or villain will be able to bet the river with impunity. So we take our worst very strong hands, those that will have the least equity if the money goes in (that don't have any OESD or flush draw basically), and we just call down with them (or that is one possible interpretation of why we could / should just call this hand on the turn).

And then the question is should I emulate this strategy?

If we are always raising all our sets and AJ before the river, then how frequently are we calling a third barrel on a brick?

And how much of villain's turn barrel range is high equity draws anyway? Against air, weak draws, and strong made hands we probably earn more by check call. And if villain does have AA, like he will roughly 10% of the time, we save a ton of money by c/cing (sometimes river will check through). This isn't a primary concern, but a nice tertiary benefit.

I agree pre is a three bet in a vacuum. I thought villain was a bit nitty so I just flatted, but probably better to still three bet.

Oct. 7, 2020 | 6:30 a.m.

10:06

874 rainbow flop. we are hu in position after flatting MP raise (villain is actually / also UTG 5 handed)

this flop doesn't really belong to either of us. we are blocking some of villain's continues or check raises, JT98, T987 etc. although we lack the important 9 blocker. Our hand is almost too strong to start bluffing with, although this is sort of a special case in that villain will quite often have an overpair, especially considering our hand, which unblocks kings and aces, and also blocks a large number of his broadway combos. vision didn't have this exact situation, but in a few analogous ones it looks like it is mixing hero's hand class.

Oct. 6, 2020 | 9 a.m.

Post | plolearnerguy posted in PLO: mid set

$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $31.39 (15.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $203 (101.5 bb)
MP: $421.21 (210.6 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $197 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ks Jc Jh Kh
MP folds, CO raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) Jd 4d As (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10.63, Hero calls $10.63

Turn: ($36.26) 9c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $34.25, Hero raises to $137

Oct. 6, 2020 | 7:13 a.m.

Yes, it is normal to lose a ton out of the BB (although if you are losing more than 100 bb / 100 you are probably doing something wrong). A vpip of 60% in the BB is probably too loose, unless you face a lot of minraising. We are supposed to VPIP less than that in the BB vs any open except for SB AFAIK. It does depend to a degree on how the people at your table are playing.

Oct. 5, 2020 | 7:40 p.m.

The section around the 5 minute mark was particularly helpful to me. Great video.

Oct. 3, 2020 | 9:33 a.m.

Comment | plolearnerguy commented on Basics

https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/transitioning-from-nlhe-to-plo-part-1/

Oct. 2, 2020 | 8:04 p.m.

Post | plolearnerguy posted in PLO: preflop question

playing at an anon table, but i've been there for an hour or so, so I've got some hands on these guys.

so the action goes like this,

utg limps (23/9) over 22 hands, Mp overlimps (83/16), and CO pots to $11 (26/21).

So we've got a tight guy limping, a loose guy limping, and then a tight guy raising.

My question is, what sort of range should we assign the tag who has isoed two limpers from the CO? And should I flat AJT9 suited to the J in the SB here?

Oct. 2, 2020 | 3:51 p.m.

11:56 this appears to be a standard three bet in BB vs SB w/ AK67 with the nut suit. Having the off suit king is important though, since it unblocks second best hands for your opponents and also might afford you some bluffing opportunities. Technically vision only three bets it if it is suited to the A6 but it is obviously right on the cusp anyway, and in the case of vision villain is opening at a significantly lower frequency.

Oct. 2, 2020 | 4:52 a.m.

Comment | plolearnerguy commented on Preflop ranges

yah, that is for MP vs UTG. for BU vs UTG it is call 13% raise 5%.

So u raise AA except worst combo no suit, no connectivity. then u raise a lot of ds stuff that is highly connected, esp. if it has high cards. that is tight three betting range. and some double pair double suit, the strongest ones. then u flat hands that are slightly worse than that. so u raise AKQT ds, but you flat AKQT with three clubs for example.

and the later the opener the wider you three bet, but still within reason.

Oct. 2, 2020 | 2:57 a.m.

Comment | plolearnerguy commented on Preflop ranges

generally you want to play quite tight vs a raise, it varies from position to position but only call about 5% of hands (Call 5% raise 5%.) will give u some more detail later im off to store right now.

Sept. 30, 2020 | 9:57 p.m.

Kh 4h 5d 6c
call
Jd Td 5s 5c
call
Td Tc 7c 2h
should not have opened in the first place
As 4s 8c 9h
call
As Js 4c 9h
call if suited to the ace as you are
4c 4s 3d 6h
not an open apparently (this one surprised me)

Why? Because that is how robots playing an unexploitable strategy play.

Sept. 30, 2020 | 9:31 p.m.

Comment | plolearnerguy commented on Preflop ranges

so just in terms of frequency for RFI I think it is 18, 25, 30, 50 roughly

this video might be helpful

https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/transitioning-from-nlhe-to-plo-part-1/

Sept. 30, 2020 | 1:48 a.m.

So in terms of our overall flop strategy I expect it to be quite mixed. I'd imagine neither side has much of a polarity or equity advantage. We are raising more hands % wise than BB is defending, but he also had the option to three bet and didn't take it, so a lot of his strongest hands preflop are not in his range, whereas we still have all our AAds hands etc. So I predict optimal flop play to be quite mixed, presumably 50/50 between half pot betting and checking.0
I think we have a pretty good candidate for bluffing the flop. We have a six, we have a diamond, we have a pocket pair in our hand (more of a factor if we also pair a board card but it does significantly reduce our likelyhood of making runner runner two pair). We can also spike an 8, which won't happen very often, but when it does we can beat a hand like 22 or 55 or T5, that ends up check calling the flop. When we bet we start to narrow down our opponents range, and it is helpful to have that possibility, albeit remote, of making a very strong hand that we can stack off with or at least call a big turn or river raise. We also have three hearts which devalues our runner runner flush equity from checking.
As to double barreling the turn. First, is this an especially good turn for either player? I'd say it is probably more oop's turn, since he has a lot more like middling top pair hands that are a check calling the flop which might have turned two pair. I'm assuming we are mostly checking back top pair unless it has a high flush draw with it. I actually prefer to check on this turn. We have a decent draw, but not really one that we can bet-call comfortably. Actually I would probaly fold this hand to a pot sized check raise. We just have too much interest in seeing a river. Our hand has become too good to bluff with.

Sept. 29, 2020 | 9:02 p.m.

Just want to say I appreciate the content, your videos are definitely worth the RIO elite subscription price alone. Great breakdown of GTO strategy and how it can be applied, I look forward to reviewing the rest of the videos you have uploaded in the past.

Sept. 28, 2020 | 9:14 p.m.

2:32

This hand is very cuspy, but it appears that suited to the 7 it is a fold, as is suited to the 96. Suited to the 97 is of course a slam dunk call.

Sept. 27, 2020 | 7:01 p.m.

IPoker, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $79 (79 bb)
BB: $52.38 (52.4 bb)
UTG: $106.86 (106.9 bb)
MP: $193.28 (193.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $104.23 (104.2 bb)
BTN: $164.49 (164.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Kh Qs 9h Qh
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, SB folds, BB calls $11, Hero calls $8.50

Pre does look like a call (of the three bet), regardless of whether B enters the pot.

Flop: ($36.50) Qc 6s Ah (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $20, BB folds, Hero calls $20

So if we ignore BB, CO is playing check and BTN is half potting his whole range. Interesting to see the half pot sizing on this texture, which is extremely dry. I think maybe CO will have enough medium strength ha nds that BTN would like to extract value from / apply pressure to, so that is why 1/2 pot is preferred. Vs bet vision is playing fold 63% of the time (standard when facing equity and polarity disadvantage), call only 15% and raise 23%. My hand however is playing pure call. Our side cards are blocking draws, our hand is unblocking AA, raising would let villain off the hook when he is bluffing and punish us maximally when we are behind. AA is 23.2% of villain's range.

Turn: ($76.50) 3h (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($76.50) 9c (2 players)
Hero bets $72.23 and is all-in, BTN calls $72.23

Results: $220.96 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: Qc 6s Ah 3h 9c
Hero mucked Kh Qs 9h Qh and won $216.96 ($112.73 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$104.23 net)

Anyway looks like I played this hand in a GTO manner, so that was good. Pretty happy with the result obviously.

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SB: $28.23 (28.2 bb)
BB: $97.40 (97.4 bb)
CO: $166.87 (166.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $85.65 (85.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Jd 3c As Ad
CO folds, Hero raises to $3.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 8d 2h 4s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.57, BB raises to $14.14, Hero calls $10.57

I feel like villain might just be putting pressure on me because this board is more favourable to his range. But actually button is raising wider than BB is defending. We also have more 44 than villain, at least from the double pair category, because villain is three betting a decent amount of his 44 like 4488 ds. He is also folding some 44 rainbow double pairs like 9944 but we are opening it. We also have more 88. We have 57% of 88 whereas villain has 51%. We also have more 567, more 84. More 22. Now if we were opening from UTG, then BB would have significantly more 88 and 44, so then BB would have the polarity advantage. So I fundamentally misunderstood the situation.

Anyway, I like my bet, I do have board interaction, I have a mild polarity advantage. Checking looks attractive too, I have BDNFD and a gutty. So it looks like my hand class is playing almost pure bet (97%). And vision is betting about 50% of the time, which I think is a standard approach when ranges are relatively equal. Here we are opening 50%, villain is calling 30% but also three betting some of his strongest hands so we are fairly competitive I believe. Vision likes a 75% sizing. In terms of general strategy on this board, we are betting most of our sets, our nut wraps, checking our weaker straight draws like A53 or 56 no pair, betting some like middle pair hands especially if they have like a 5 blocker and over cards and bdfd so they have decent improvement potential but not enough of a hand to check back and recognize your equity. But over all betting quite mixed as we would expect I guess with wide ranges. Bottom two is almost a pure check, unless it has backup. Overpair without backup is mostly a check.

Turn: ($35.78) 6d (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22

River: ($79.78) Kh (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $79.78 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 8d 2h 4s 6d Kh
BB showed Qc 8h Tc 7h and lost (-$39.64 net)
Hero mucked Jd 3c As Ad and won $76.78 ($37.14 net)

Sept. 26, 2020 | 8:03 a.m.

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $314.14 (628.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
CO: $61.43 (122.9 bb)
BTN: $112.63 (225.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kd Th 3d Ah
CO folds, BTN raises to $1.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $3.75

So over 260 hands, villain has extremely high RFI's from EP and MP. He averages about 55% from each position, and 83% from the SB. That is less impactful in this scenario, since his button RFI of 63% is not so out of line, but it is something I will have to consider in the future when playing against him.

Flop: ($11.25) 6h 7h Kc (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

So vision plays this as a mixed strategy, which I am going to simplify to 60% check and 40% bet. My exact hand is mixed as well. The largest checking category here is no pair (on board), no draw. Another large checking portion is no pair on board with a flush blocker. That is 14.7% of our range right there. Just aces are checking 75% of the time. The betting range has a lot of pair on board hands, like AAK, AA6. Backdoor nut flush blocker is another frequent bet. Also having a 7 or 77. IT is pretty mixed though, lots of ace with board pair cards are mixing and checking. We are also betting mid pair with a backdoor flush draw, although this is a mixed strategy as well. Our bets usually favour having some interaction with the king, like AQJ6, or QQT6. Overpair and nut flush blocker is mixed, but favours betting. "just" a set is learning towards bet, betting 2/3rds of the time. We are checking a lot of KK6, KK55 type hands where we block one of our outs. It's a very nuanced strategy here.

Turn: ($11.25) Ad (2 players)
Hero bets $7.09, BTN calls $7.09

River: ($25.43) Qs (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: $25.43 pot ($1.41 rake)
Final Board: 6h 7h Kc Ad Qs
Hero mucked Kd Th 3d Ah and won $24.02 ($11.43 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$12.59 net)

So I end up leaving a lot of money on the table. I checked because I thought this board favours the in position player. I think it is actually more even than that.

So our strategy in BB vs button open is call 34% of the time, raise 10% of the time, fold the rest. I think we can follow this strategy (when we are in the BB) vs this opponent no matter where he opens, so long as everyone else folds, since he does RFI at such a high frequency (unless I observe him to be opening less). Normally BB vs UTG calls 23% and three bets 10%.

Sept. 24, 2020 | 10:34 a.m.

put in a solid 6 hour break even session yesterday. 2573 hands. was stuck a bunch and got even. played pretty good the whole way through, feel like my study is already paying dividends.

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SB: $219.74 (109.9 bb)
BB: $100 (50 bb)
UTG: $742.25 (371.1 bb)
MP: $214.15 (107.1 bb)
CO: $207.47 (103.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $197 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qh Th Td 8s
UTG calls $2, MP folds, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, SB raises to $12, BB folds, UTG calls $10, CO calls $10, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($50) 2h 8h 9c (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $23.75, CO folds, Hero calls $23.75, SB folds

UTG is playing 87/3. We have played a few pots at this point, mostly with me being the aggressor at least on flop and turn. His stats say it all.

Turn: ($97.50) 7h (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $50.75, UTG calls $50.75

River: ($199) 3s (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $110.50 and is all-in, UTG calls $110.50

Pretty happy with this hand, queen high flush is pretty huge here, but this is a spot where I might have checked sometimes in the past and missed value. Villain called with T6, he had a wrap on the flop (he should have c/c that hand, strange for a player whose bread and butter is check calling to miss a c/c line).

Results: $420 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 2h 8h 9c 7h 3s
UTG mucked and lost (-$197 net)
Hero mucked Qh Th Td 8s and won $416 ($219 net)

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SB: $216.76 (216.8 bb)
BB: $36.03 (36 bb)
CO: $184.32 (184.3 bb)
Hero (UTG): $217.75 (217.8 bb)
MP: $144.50 (144.5 bb)
BTN: $148.50 (148.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qd Jh Ac Ks
Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB raises to $32, CO folds, Hero raises to $105.50, SB raises to $216.76 and is all-in, BB calls $4.03 and is all-in, Hero raises to $217.75 and is all-in

Fun hand. Both my opponents were fairly insane. SB had been tagged maniac from a previous session, and BB had gone through a couple of buyins in no time flat and was wilding pretty hard. I four bet because I am pretty sure I am doing quite well against BB, who is really short anyway, and I don't want to give SB's 90% range a chance to hit the flop. SB said something really funny in chat, something about "activated" before stacking off, but I had too many tables going on to check it out. Just saw the speech bubble. I've got a decent edge (11%) on the side action.

Flop: ($469.55) 7d Tc 2d (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($469.55) 5c (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($469.55) Js (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $469.55 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 7d Tc 2d 5c Js
SB showed 5d Qh 7s 6h and won $361.46 ($144.70 net)
BB showed 9h 9d As 8s and won $106.09 ($70.06 net)
Hero mucked Qd Jh Ac Ks and lost (-$216.76 net)

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BB: $763.01 (381.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $185.55 (92.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qh 8d Jd 3d
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) 8s 3c 7d (2 players)
BB bets $26.25, Hero raises to $113.75, BB raises to $376.25, Hero calls $53.80 and is all-in

Turn: ($371.10) 2c (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($371.10) 9c (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $371.10 pot ($1.00 rake)
Final Board: 8s 3c 7d 2c 9c
BB showed Ah Kh Ad 6d and lost (-$185.55 net)
Hero mucked Qh 8d Jd 3d and won $370.10 ($184.55 net)

I feel like villains line has to be incorrect here. I'll check it out next month when I get vision HU lol.

This was a clever hand vs a nit.

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SB: $104.47 (104.5 bb)
BB: $137.67 (137.7 bb)
UTG: $81.43 (81.4 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $106.70 (106.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $362.54 (362.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9d Js 8s Ts
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, Hero calls $3, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

Single suited I think just a call. Only 100 hands but villain is almost certainly opening tigher than gto ranges.

Flop: ($10) 2c Td 9h (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $6, Hero calls $6, SB folds

So on the flop I felt if I raised SB and MP would have too easy a time of things. I wanted to maximize their chances of making a mistake. Raising is also very attractive, we have a huge hand and a big draw, and can dominate some of our opponents continuing range.

Omaha Hi Simulation ?
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: T92
Hand Equity Wins Ties
AKQJ 44.83% 268,953 0
JT98 55.17% 331,047 0

That being said, I do feel like if I raise, SB in particular is not continuing without a monster, and MP is probably bet folding most of his range. This would actually be a great place for a bluff raise, with like JJ76 ds, if I even call that vs a nits raise. Or AJJT.

Turn: ($22) 5h (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $10.39, MP raises to $51.95, Hero raises to $176.63, MP calls $39.05 and is all-in

River: ($204) 3d (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $204 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 2c Td 9h 5h 3d
MP showed Jd 8d Kc Kd and lost (-$100 net)
Hero mucked 9d Js 8s Ts and won $200 ($100 net)

Sept. 23, 2020 | 9:09 p.m.

honestly I think spr is too high to GII on the flop with this hand. I like the way you played it.

Sept. 23, 2020 | 7:30 p.m.

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SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $720.54 (360.3 bb)
Hero (UTG): $197 (98.5 bb)
MP: $247.95 (124 bb)
CO: $210.13 (105.1 bb)
BTN: $569.42 (284.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8h Qh Tc Js
Hero raises to $7, 4 folds, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $15

Flop: ($45) 4d Jh Qs (2 players)
BB bets $32.06, Hero raises to $138.93, BB raises to $459.54, Hero calls $36.07 and is all-in

Looks like this flop hits both of us pretty hard in terms of our ranges. Vision is using a mixed strategy, check 40%, bet 50% 40%, pot 20%. Villain's exact hand with two backdoor flush draws is playing check. So the largest portion of vision's potting range here as villain is over pair + gutty. Also potting a lot of top pair + OE or top pair + wrap hands. Main candidates for checking ]include wraps without a pair, OE w/o a pair on board and double gutty as well. Lots of sets, mostly that block villains continuing range like JJTT, JJ99, AQQ8, AQQJ, AAQQ. Checking also a lot of KK without any board interaction, like KK66, KK77, KK63. Also half potting a lot of AA w/ gutty, some sets. Also here vision plays a very mixed strategy, mixing most classes, and mixing a lot of hands. So vision is basically mashing buttons. One class that is almost pure half pot is overpair + wrap, or overpair + double gutty. And top two + gutty is predominately half pot.

Villain bets 2/3rds, which isn't an option, so I selected pot. Not surprisingly QJT8 wants to rip. It's going to be hard for villain to have three bet and not have at least 30% equity on this flop against me, and usually with a big sizing they are going with their hand on the flop, although vision does find a 10% fold with hands like T876 that get to play "just kidding" to the flop raise.

Turn: ($395.00) 3d (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($395.00) 9c (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $395.00 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: 4d Jh Qs 3d 9c
BB showed 9s Ts 9h Th and lost (-$197 net)
Hero mucked 8h Qh Tc Js and won $391 ($194 net)

So I get it in on the flop with 70% and win. Hurray! Good when taking a shot. The game didn't look very good so I quit next orbit. Actually I did butcher one hand before quitting.

IPoker, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $392 (196 bb)
BB: $247.95 (124 bb)
UTG: $210.13 (105.1 bb)
MP: $569.42 (284.7 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $522.54 (261.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qh 2c Ac Th
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $5, BB calls $4

Probably a three bet but I wanted to keep the pot small since I was leaving at my blind. Actually it is close, this is a cusp threebet, my hand is a pure three bet, but with the suits on the wrong way we start mixing.

Flop: ($18) 8c 5d Tc (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8, BB folds

Turn: ($34) 4d (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($34) Qc (2 players)
Hero bets $10.15, BTN folds

Results: $34 pot ($1.70 rake)
Final Board: 8c 5d Tc 4d Qc
Hero mucked Qh 2c Ac Th and won $32.30 ($18.30 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$14 net)

Looks fine to me I think. Flop SPR is really high, so as strong as our hand is we don't really want to stack off. We also have a nut draw so we're fine with BB coming along. Maybe leading the flop has some merit. We can call a raise, we start pushing a lot of equity against villain's continuing range. These dynamic boards get checked through a lot, so it makes sense to start building a flop leading range, especially with last to act player having the initiative. My SB cold calling range is quite strong, stronger than my opponents, so it makes sense to have a leading range. I think my river sizing is too small. Most likely button has air, but he could have a high flush, which has a fairly inelastic calling frequency. Even J9 could call a big bet. The turn did bring a straight but he probably wouldn't stop betting a set or tens up because of the 67 since that combo is not highly represented in my range. So it doesn't make sense to target two pair with a small sizing, instead we should maximally punish. OTOH we might want to bluff this river a lot, in which case a small sizing would be good.

Sept. 23, 2020 | 3:10 a.m.

IPoker, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $65.67 (65.7 bb)
BB: $80.98 (81 bb)
MP: $107.47 (107.5 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $128.70 (128.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7h Kh Ks Ts
MP folds, CO raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls $8.50

I have 1.5k hands on villain, and his RFI is pretty interesting, opening only 18% of hands from CO. Still a clear value three bet, although I wanted to check if this combo was connected enough for a peel of a four bet. Actually vision does not want us to three bet this combo vs an UTG open (I gave villain UTG range since it is 18%). Nor vs an MP open. Only BU vs CO will vision three bet KKT7 ds (and it will three bet KKT7ss also, mixing if you have the bad suit variety).

Interestingly, villain has a 70% fold to c-bet, which I thought was exploitable, but diving in a little further in heads up pots his fold to c-bet is only 57.7%. Which is probably still high, but not so bad.

Flop: ($25.50) 2d 5s Jd (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

CO playing pure check here. Hero mixing check and half pot. The strategy seems incredibly nuanced for this spot, but for our hand class, dry overpairs, it is almost entirely checking. So just looking at the largest segments of our checking range they are bare overpair, bare top pair, no pair + high flush draw or nut flush draw. The biggest components of our betting range are our over pair + flush draw (nut or otherwise), and over pair + nut flush blocker. In terms of the nut flush blocker, we can simplify the strategy by just playing half pot or check, and betting 70% of the time. Checking our AAKK, AAQQ double paired hands that can hit another set, hands without much board interaction, specifically no Jack or 6. If we are wrapping around the 6, with like AA85 or AA87, or if we have backdoor nut flush blocker or backdoor spades we like to check. Also betting most of our three spade hands. And betting our no pair flush blocker hands.

So our particular hand isn't in the gto range, but I think we play it like a check. No board pair,

Turn: ($25.50) 4c (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $9, CO calls $9

Turn 4c is very interesting. I thought I would have a huge polarity advantage now, since I should have more A3 than villain (because I have a lot more aces). Actually looks like vision would check my hand.

River: ($43.50) 8c (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Results: $43.50 pot ($2.41 rake)
Final Board: 2d 5s Jd 4c 8c
CO mucked and lost (-$21 net)
Hero mucked 7h Kh Ks Ts and won $41.09 ($20.09 net)

Sept. 22, 2020 | 11:43 p.m.

Still definitely worth it imo. You can train RFI standards, or vs RFI, vs three bet, vs four bet etc. And just analyzing solver strategies gives you quite a bit of insight into alternative lines. The point isn't to play like a solver, it is understand what GTO strategies are, so that you can observe how your opponents deviate from GTO and how you can profit from that.

So for example, in order to know if someone is three betting too wide, or three betting the wrong types of hands, you need to know GTO three bet standards vs a given RFI.

For sure solvers alone aren't enough in your situation. You also need to study the dynamics of multiway pots and develop strategies for them. But I do think vision will be worth it for you.

I recommend start by watching some videos of people using vision. There is a lot of footage out here.

This is probably some of the best :

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/694405870?filter=archives&sort=time

In this video you have two RIO Elite coaches using vision for a couple of hours to analyze hands from the HU challenge. So it will start to give you some insight into solver strategy, and learning how to play various board textures in different situations. For example if you have a huge range and polarity advantage, you might want to bet small with your whole range. Or if it is mixed, then you might want to employ a mixed strategy of checking and betting small, especially at high SPR.

Even though solvers teach us about heads up play, I think a lot of the concepts can apply multiway, although not directly. Like we probably don't want to do much pure bluffing in a four way pot, but just like heads up we don't want to just check give up everything we aren't betting. We need a continuing range. And then understanding how different ranges interact with different boards. You can even look at looser ranges by giving them button open for example, or BB defend of SB steal.

And even in your loose games, you will often end up on the flop, say if you come over the top pre with good aces after some raises and calls, and only one person calls you. So it is very useful to know how to optimally play these hands in a gto way against a given range.

Sept. 22, 2020 | 10:46 p.m.

whenever I try to export the ranges from vision to odds oracle they won't work, i get a stack overflow error or the program just loops endlessly

Sept. 22, 2020 | 6:54 p.m.

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