straightfloosh

Hi Sauce,

You said the following: “That's a dramatic example, but I often give myself leeway to exploit an opponent by 0-3 or even 4% potshare on the river if I'm fairly confident”

Have you done any videos on this topic? I don’t think your extreme example (T9x Q J runout) is that applicable to this heuristic for exploiting on the river. I’m struggling to understand the mechanics of studying something like this by myself in a river spot. Could you provide an example of a river spot and how you reach this threshold of 2-4%? Sorry if I’m being unclear I’m just struggling to understand how to implement this in practice.

The reality is a lot of preflop "theory" has gotten us to ranges that are suboptimal and highly exploitable. The solutions strengthen my perspective on poker in that there is still a ton of room for growth in multiple facets of the game, including in the development of exploitative preflop ranges. But really, its a kick in the butt to remind me there's a lot I don't know, which brings me back to a more humble perspective my poker game, which in my opinion is the best place to be.

I think I have a good group of guys for that, obviously there are always places to improve. I'd say the guys I work/study with are all largely influenced by your material, in that a lot of our study is geared towards modeling our PIO work w/ MDA factored in through nodelocking or just adjusting the preflop configs. And its helped a ton! That said, the winrates you mentioned just seemed quite high to me. Hopefully you didn't take my comment as the hostile or the.... Copernicus type. Cheers!

I play low to midstakes on soft sites, and idk how winrates like that are possible. I'm no crusher or anything, but I feel pretty ahead of the curve. I also don't know anyone putting up winrates like that. Not saying it isn't possible, it just seems extreme unless you are bumhunting like crazy and forgoing putting in any reasonable amount of volume.

Graphs of 30bb/100 winrates on soft sites are welcome Nick :)

1. 4B (vs population trend in my pool its prob a fold)
2. Fold
3. Mix 4b & fold, but probably fold more often (low-midstakes Ignition its probably best as a fold readless)

Play HU

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When you attack an exploitative hotspot, specifically hotspots that incentivize an aggressive action on earlier streets - you naturally end up on turn or river w/ a wider and weaker than "optimal" range. These hotspots indicate were printing EV in a vaccum. That said, I feel like it is really easy to compound these aggressive preflop and flop exploits into big mistakes on turn/river by forcing aggression when there is a lot of money in the pot and your up against an already too tight range. Which leads me to my primary question, which is how do you teach your students how to proceed on future streets effectively and in a simplified way without getting countered involuntarily or voluntarily by villains when there's way more BB's in the pot?

I hope that makes sense, Cheers!

Are you still recommending super high RFI strategies to your students. Are these strategies really that incentivized in high rake games on sites like Ignition/Global w/ no rakeback.

How exploitatively out of line can you get in an anonymous poker environment.

Considering he's played on Stars within last few months why are you using a recycled Russian PTR graph? Does it not track anything since then. Also he put a sample on stars earlier this year, although I have no clue how he did. Hasn't he posted results in the past year or two of strong success in other pools? I've never purchased his packs, but I know of at least 5 people who purchased and loved PIO Unlocked 1 & 2.

3bet is standard. Vs that 4bet sizing, you kinda just gotta call cuz pot odds.

Just x/f the flop. You should def be x/f all the 54s combos, but if your gonna bet them at least go with the ones w/ the BDFD. AP, turn is spew, very clear x/f w/ zero equity and plenty of other hands to continue with.

x/c flop imo. I'd use worse NFD as x/r on the flop.

At 5nl, I doubt rake makes this a profitable call. AP, bet-call flop looks good. I'm raising turn. AP, not folding river.

Update?

Maybe a dumb question, but what exactly is a tempo bet? Or rather why is a small blockish type bet called a tempo bet?

Bit late, but I've never seen such a concise breakdown of flop textures. Thanks Tom!

The nerd in me is excited for the rake video

Whats your logic behind using so many sizes in all these spots. Is anyone really splitting their flop betting range into more than 2 sizes, then branching that into even more sizes on turns and rivers.

Loved the video. Turns out Doug is good at HU, who woulda knew.

"why is a balanced range able to bluff more on the flop than on the river? One sentence or bust."

Shouldn't the question be "why does a balanced multistreet betting range have to bluff more on the flop than on the river" or more extensively Why does a balanced multistreet betting range have to bluff more on earlier streets in a poker game?

Isn't the answer: Because equity will shift the intrinsic nature of a hand (value hand, bluff hand, bluff hand in a b-x-b line, or SDV hand) in a betting range, thus preventing us from using a static bluffing range from one street to the next.

I default call pre, but AP this is a fantastic hand to call down with. Flopping top pair in a 4bet pot, and not blocking opponents most likely bluff means its time to call down and if your beat thatz poker.

Check river, we block too many bluffs, some value but not close to enough. We also have some tiny SDV vs. a linear SB 3bet range that has some bluffs giving up OTR.

so gud

Ignition is gud confirmed. 50nl is gud confirmed, and for some reason zone has been running consistently which it didn't for quite awhile - probably the rake increase idk. Site is opening up to the Brazilian homies soon too. ACR looks like it has more action because you can see full tables. Card catcher works as a HUD and collects hands too, if you play zone only or aren't bothering with HUD you can get hand converter if you just want to convert hands to PT4 files.

who gives a shit about being good at online poker when you probably get to play in the best high stakes games in the world with awesome business people and rich whales.

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I doubt 230 hands isn't enough to completely know his 3bet v. EP range. Nevertheless, if we assume its QQ+, AK, AQs, A5s, which is fairly representative of a 2.9% 3bet range, and were confident he doesn't take this line with AK then we only have 20% against his range OTR. If he starts bluffing AK it becomes a call pretty quickly, unfortunately we block the AK he's most likely to take this line with. FWIW, I'd still 4bet pre GII.

It sorta depends doesn't it? What's your strategy on the flop? I imagine x-c, x-c, x-f is good on most runouts. If your folding this hand, and betting 2pair+ OTF at a high frequency, then your almost certainly overfolding. FWIW, it is sorta hard for opponent to be bluffing here,but it still seems way nitty to fold TPGK to a ~1/2 pot bet OTT. I also think ATs is likely in his range too.