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PF, with 98s, this is a basic fold UTG. If you want to open UTG with 98s, make sure all players IP are nit and/or there is at least one recreational player in the blinds. And, unless some particular readings or notes taken about similar situations, I do not think a reg defends a large range on the BB vs UTG: always remember that you are representing a strong range when opening UTG, therefore a reg on the BB will nitify the defending range, particularly at Zoom tables. I see the following defending range : { 99-22, AQs-AJs, AQo-AJo, KQs }, maybe { JJ-TT, ATs, KJs, KQo, QJs, JTs }.

As played flop, thinking of my hand versus the villain’s range, I would check, since the villain has the range advantage; thinking of my range versus the villain’s one, I would c-bet lower (1/3 pot), since I have QQ, AQ and KQs in my range and the board is pretty dry.

As played turn, once we are called, I would check back and take my free card.

Generally, before considering sending three barrels in bluff, ask yourself: which better hands than yours do you want the villain to fold? And before overbetting, think of the villain’s range and ask yourself: is the villain’s range capped? is the villain scary? can I make pressure on parts of the range such as a second pair or lower? And don’t you think the villain has something strong enough to call you twice and may make a hero call on the river with a club used as a blocker, all the more as you do not block any bluff catcher?

In other words, I am afraid you committed a bluff which is too sophiscated for micro-stakes. I do not say you must never bluff in micro-stakes, but micro-stakes, IMHO, are not the best ones to make triple barrels in bluff.

Dec. 31, 2018 | 7:01 p.m.


Do you have any information about the villain? Is the villain a passive recreational or a solid player with leaks?

PF, nothing to say.

As played flop, I would c-bet higher (at least 2/3 pot) since we do not block any FDs and want to value Jx such as KJs, QJs or J9s+, and hands such as A5s which can call at least once.

As played turn, I think it depends on the villain. Of course, FDs have hit; but, we still have hands to value such as Adx and Kdx with one diamond and maybe some AQ and KQ. The problem is we do not have FE and a c-bet OTT has rather to be an overbet, especially if the villain can be scary or is a passive recreational (versus a passive recreational you can play the Q as a scare card).

As played river, since you checked OTT, your 1/2 pot bet is fine to seek any Qx, maybe TT-66. If you had c-bet OTT, since we do not have a hand to send three barrels with, we would X / C many bets from the villain (until 1/2 pot undoubtedly, a higher bet depending on the hand equity versus the range), in which case we let the villain save some missed draws and Qx without any diamond.

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Have a nice new year’s eve. ;-)

Dec. 31, 2018 | 6:24 p.m.

Is it standard to call 3bets OOP with 22-77?

Versus a 3-bet, to set mine in a profitable way with a PP like 77-22, you have to be able to earn 15 times the amount to call when OOP (12 times when IP). In this hand, the villain could call your 3-bet with any PP easily, since your stack is deep enough and the villain needs to be able to earn $1.80 (15 * $0.12 to call).

Dec. 27, 2018 | 10:57 a.m.


Is the villain a recreational player or a reg? How often and on how many opportunities does the villain open-raise from the HJ and fold to a 3-bet?

PF, I would just have called with 87s. The problem is that, when 3-betting with 87s versus HJ, you will very often isolate yourself versus the villain’s calling range from HJ, which is strong enough (QQ-22, AQs-AJs, AQo, KQs, KQo, maybe ATs, sometimes AK if not 4-bet). And let us not talk about a 4-bet after your 3-bet… If you want to 3-bet with a polarised range, 87s is better suited when you are OOP and the open-raiser from CO or Btn; in other words, the polarised range I would use to 3-bet IP would be { A9s-A2s, K9s-K2s } rather than SCs.

As played flop, your check back is fine, since the flop hits the villain’s calling range in a 3BP.

As played turn, since the villain checked again, I would bet just to earn such an orphan pot. Concerning the sizing, I would make an overbet (1.2 time the pot), since the card revealed on the turn is a brick, which means that a classical sizing would not give you enough FE. And in case the villain called my overbet, I would not do anything on the river and would fold in case of X / R.

Dec. 24, 2018 | 11:03 a.m.


Concerning study routine, try to ensure that 1/3 of the time dedicated to poker is dedicated to work on your game. To review your hands more efficiently, try to define one theme to work on per week or per month (for example, this week, you decide to work on 3-bet steals from Btn vs CO), which means you create a tag dedicated to this theme on your tracker and tag only hands concerning this theme ingame or, better, at the end of each session, applying filters with your tracker to select the specific hands you want to review.

In other words, to review hands and work on the game efficiently, it is important not to review hands with different kinds of situations at the same time. By tagging so many hands to review without selecting on which aspect of the game your want to work on first, you will feel confused, lost and will not improve at a pace you would like to.

Dec. 19, 2018 | 7:20 a.m.


PF, I would 3-bet to 0.45.

As played flop, it seems fine to c-bet low on a dry board to keep the villain’s range as large as possible.

As played turn and river, which better hands than yours do you want to make fold? Don’t you think a second barrel will just make hands you are already beating fold? I would check back: JJ has hit a set and it will be difficult to make the villain fold, apart from TT and lower PPs. Without any information about the villain, it is better not to 3-barrel in bluff, even less in a 3-bet pot. In other words, feel lucky if the villain ended up folding on the river.

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Dec. 18, 2018 | 7:20 a.m.

Comment | victorbynite commented on JJ bad action


Nothing to say about this hand.

Dec. 18, 2018 | 7:02 a.m.


Since everybody has checked on the flop, your delayed c-bet on the turn is not so that bad, but I think I would have bet higher (maybe pot) as I would do when dealing with orphan pots. The X / C option is not so that bad, too, since we can let the villains IP bluff with Ax wanting to earn an orphan pot.

Versus the raise all-in from the CO, to risk $2.05 to be rewarded $3.57 in a profitable way (and if I did not miscalculate), you have to win the pot at least nearly 36% of the time, which means you must have 18 outs at least with only one street to come. Concerning your outs, I do not think overcards are clean outs (you can face ranges containing AQ, AT and KQ, maybe KTs), which means you have at last 12 outs, which give you 24% equity only, which is not enough to call in a profitable way. In addition, the villain from the HJ still has to make a decision after you. So, this is a good B / F.

Dec. 5, 2018 | 3:46 p.m.


With 33, just call PF. To know if a set mining can be profitable, in a single-raised pot, you have to be able to earn 20 times the amount to call OOP, 15 times IP. With $0.06 to call, the effective stack is enough to call and set mine. In addition, 33 is part of the hands you like to play in a MWP in hope to see a huge pot and stack the villains off when you hit your set on the flop.

As played flop, this is a set-up, even if you have 7 outs to beat the villain’s flush (10 on the turn if you have not hit a full house or quads). Anyway, should you have made a classical raise or a raise all-in, the SPR led you to commitment.

Nov. 27, 2018 | 3:37 p.m.


In BB vs SB, raise PF: even if you are the coolest person IRL, tell the villains that, if they want to see a flop for cheap from the SB, they will have to call an extra.

Versus a X / R all-in, the question to ask is not with which hands to call, but with how much minimal equity to call. And the answer is got by calculating first the risk-reward, then the number of outs, finally the outs equity. If you do not know them yet, here are the formulas:

  • the risk-reward formula: risk ÷ (risk + reward);

  • the outs equity on 1 street to come: number of outs x 2;

  • the outs equity on 2 streets to come with less than 9 outs: number of outs x 4;

  • the outs equity on 2 streets to come with 9 outs or more: number of outs x 3 + 9.

You are told to risk $9.85 to be awarded $10.20, which means you need 49% equity to call (9.85 ÷ [9.85 + 10.20] ≈ 0.49). You have 15 outs on 2 streets to come, which give you 54% equity (15 x 3 + 9 = 45 + 9 = 54). That means you have enough equity to call. In other words, as played flop, this is an easy call.

The villain may X / R all-in not only with two-pairs, sets or straights, but also with just a TP or MP in a panic and even a single FD (depending on how fishy the villain can be).

By the way, nice straight flush. ;-)

Nov. 24, 2018 | 8:19 a.m.


How often does the villain make a RFI from HJ? I am not sure you can call from BB with JTo vs HJ in a profitable way, unless the villain has insane RFI stats.

As played flop, I would prefer a X / C to a X / R: when making a X / R, you make all the parts of the villain’s range you are already beating fold: overcards and bluffs; and, once called, the villain’s range becomes strong enough to beat you.

As played turn, prepare yourself to check on the river, since the board gets very connected.

As played river, once you are called, I think you are dead and I am not sure the villain only has overpairs, but can also have Axs which can block some SDs, and even two-pairs and sets if the villain is a passive player. In other words, I do not think this is a good bluff.

I think the best postflop plan here is to X / C once or twice, on the flop and turn (if the turn is not an overcard hitting the villain’s range, of course), then X / F.

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Nov. 24, 2018 | 7:24 a.m.


On the flop, I would c-bet higher (2/3 pot): the villain’s defending range has many FDs and we do not have any spade to block part of FD combos. As played flop, versus the villain’s X / R, I would 3-bet shove with top two-pair and never mind if the villain shows JJ or 44.

On the turn, I am not sure you can call, even if the sizing is rather low (a little less than 1/2 pot) : you only have 14% equity versus { JJ, 44, AJs, AJo, KTs+, KQo, QTs, T9s, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 53s } (and I am not sure the villain called PF with all these hands mentioned). So, I am not annoyed with your fold on the turn.

Nov. 7, 2018 | 9:18 a.m.

Thanks for this deep explanation. I got it.

My pleasure. :-)

But let's suppose we had a bluff there. We need to generate the maximum fold equity possible, right? and in this case we don't wanna minimun risk-reward instead of when we have a value hand as in the hand posted. So, would be better to just x/R 2x to generate enough fold equity when we'll have more than 60% pot behind? I'm talking about in general spots.

Generally, when you do not have enough fold equity and want the villain to fold a better hand than yours, you must overcome your fold equity deficit by the sizing: most of time you will overbet, especially when you think the villain’s range is capped. In this case, in terms of risk-reward, when overbetting 1.2 time the pot, you need to succeed 54% of the time (60% when overbetting 1.5 time the pot).

But, this move is easier to make when the villain checked or when you are the first to talk. As played turn here, it would be tough to raise in bluff in a 4-bet pot.

Oct. 24, 2018 | 10:26 a.m.

Could you explain more detailed?

If you have not learnt it yet, you must learn a formula called risk-reward. This formula is the following one: risk ÷ (risk + reward); it gives you the minimum percentage of success for a risk to be a profitable one. Some examples:

  • when you are open-raising to 3bb in BVB, such a move has to succeed 62.5% of the time to be profitable: you are risking 2.5bb (your SB does not belong to you any longer) to be rewarded 1.5bb (the amounts of the SB and the BB), which gives 2.5 ÷ (2.5 + 1.5) = 0.625 and means the villain must defend the BB in BVB more than 37.5% of the time to prevent you from making an immediate profit;

  • when you are c-betting 1/2 pot, you just need to succeed 1/3 of the time to have an immediate profit: 0.5 ÷ (0.5 + 1) ≈ 0.33 (you are risking 1/2 pot to be rewarded the pot);

  • as played river on your hand, when facing the villain’s X / R shove, the risk is $3.99 (the amount to call) and the reward $16.65 ($5.66 in the pot when the river is being dealt + your $3.50 bet + $7.49, which is the amount of the villain’s X / R adjusted to the effective stack, as your stack is $3.98 lower than the villain’s one), the formula says 3.99 ÷ (3.99 + 16.65) ≈ 0.193, which means your hand must have at least 19.3% equity to call in a profitable way;

  • now, imagine the villain decided to c-bet shove on the river instead of making a X / R shove: in this case, you would have had to risk $7.49 to be rewarded $13.15 ($5.66 in the pot when the river is being dealt + $7.49, which is the amount of the villain’s X / R adjusted to the effective stack), the formula says 7.49 ÷ (7.49 + 13.15) ≈ 0.363, which means your hand would have had to have at least 36.3% equity to call in a profitable way.

As your hand had 80% equity versus { KK+, KQs, KQo } on the river, these two last examples do not make any difference, but they would make one if your hand had only 25% equity versus the villain’s range: the risk would be profitable when risking $3.99 to be rewarded $16.65, but not at all when risking $7.49 to be rewarded $13.15. In other words, if you had raised on the turn and bigger, the amount you would have had to risk on the river would have been lower for a bigger reward.

Oct. 24, 2018 | 4:45 a.m.

But I wanna know why you raise OTT 3x or 4x, if we raise 3x pot will be something about $12 and we'll only have between $4 ~$5. Is it better to raise 2x and shove $7 in a pot of $9? I mean, we'll be committed when we raise of 3x or 4x on a non-brodway diamond river.

The bigger you raise on the turn, the lower will be the minimal equity required by the risk-reward to go broke on the river in a profitable way.

Oct. 22, 2018 | 11:49 a.m.


Before considering 4-betting in LP versus blinds, it is important to check the villain’s style. How often and over how many opportunities does the villain 3-bet versus a steal from the CO? Does the villain tends to be TAG, and even nitty, or to be rather LAG? The decision of 4-betting PF or just calling the 3-bet with QQ depends on the answer to these questions. Remember QQ has only 40% equity versus { QQ+, AKs, AKo }. If the villain seems to be nitty in terms of 3-bettings, then it is better to just call the 3-bet; but, if you think the villain is able to make polarised 3-bets, your 4-bet is fine.

PF: I can 4 bet bigger here, something like $1.30.

A 4-bet sizing must generally be 2.5 times the 3-bet sizing. So, you need not 4-bet bigger.

As played flop, your check back is fine: you have not hit a monster nor had an interesting draw, which means a c-bet on a 4-bet pot with such a flop is an easy way to waste your winrate. And I am not sure you have a huge range advantage here: the villain can call a 4-bet with Axs and Kxs, using the A and the K as blockers.

As played turn, I would raise 3 or 4 times the villain’s bet, in order to have an interesting SPR to shove on the river. The villain can call a raise with FDs, KJs+, maybe AK (if the villain did not 5-bet shove PF with such a hand) and KQo.

As played river, KK is the only hand which beats you and the villain may have 5-bet shove PF with such a hand more often than just called your 4-bet. QQ has 80% equity versus { KK+, KQs, KQo }; so, your call all-in is fine and never mind if the villain has trapped you a little with KK.

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Oct. 22, 2018 | 6:44 a.m.


This is my first post here, take it easy with the newbie french guy ;-)

Welcome aboard. And do not be ashamed: nobody is perfect, all the less as I am French, too. ;-)

So, we are on the french network

Since this seems to be a 5-handed hand, I suppose you are on Winamax, aren’t you? ;-) Even though Winamax is a great poker room for its rewards program and the great quality of its software, its main problems about NLHE CG tables are the 5-handed format and a greater percentage of regs compared to other rooms, even on micro-stakes (I do not say Winamax tables are unbeatable, but you will expect a lower winrate than when playing 6-handed and you will take more time over moving up the stakes).

You say the villain has 10% 3-bet overall. But over how many 3-bet opportunities? And how often does the villain 3-bet versus Btn and over how many opportunities? These questions are very important because when you say 10% 3-bet without any precision, you say nothing special: if you 3-bet only once while you have already had 10 overall oppotunities to 3-bet, your overall 3-bet stat says 10%. ;-)

saw him 3bet 10bb SB vs CO w/KQo

Such a move is standard, all the more as the player on the CO attempts to steal often and the one on SB does not want to play such a hand OOP on a MWP.

PF, your iso raise versus the limper on the CO is fine. When facing a 3-bet PF and having a medium or low PP, to set mine in a profitable way, you must be able to win 15 times the amount to pay when OOP, 12 times when IP; on this hand, you must win €15.60 (12 * €1.30) to set mine in a profitable way; but, when looking at the effective stack, you see nobody has a remaining stack of at least €15.60: the limper has €5.63 left and the 3-better €8.39, which means the implied odds are not enough to set mine in a profitable way; so, the best decision is to fold to this 3-bet.

As played flop, I would just call. The villain can c-bet with FDs (AJs+, KJs+, maybe A5s, A3s, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 53s in case of a polarised 3-bet) and maybe OESDs, GSs and a pair in case of a polarised 3-bet (A5s, A3s, 97s, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 53s, maybe A4s, 64s, 54s, 43s and I am not sure the villain c-bets with A2s), but surely c-bets with better overpairs than yours (TT+). When you just call, you are facing a coin flip versus the villain’s range, even if the villain is c-betting full range; but, when raising, you make the villain easily fold the part of the range you are already beating and, if called, you can be sure to be almost drawing dead.

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Oct. 20, 2018 | 4:19 p.m.

Comme "wifi" avec l'accent Francais? =)

Tout à fait. ;-)

Puisqu’on parle de tapis, en France, le mot boîte est également employé pour désigner la décision de faire tapis. D’ailleurs, je connais un joueur pro français (qui est aussi coach en cash game pour un site de poker francophone) qui dit souvent « Boîte » à son chat, qui lui répond par un miaulement (sachant que son chat est un chartreux, une race pourtant réputée pour miauler très peu). :-D

Oct. 20, 2018 | 2:43 p.m.


En France, nous employons couramment les termes de flop, turn, river, range, sizing, gutshot et flush. En revanche, pour parler d’OESD, nous parlons plutôt de tirage quinte par les deux bouts. Bref, il n’y a pas que pour le panneau « Stop » (« Arrêt » au Québec ;-) ) que nous autres, Français, employons des termes anglais (avec notre piètre accent, cela s’entend toujours :-p ). :-)

Oct. 19, 2018 | 8:12 p.m.


Just to add a precision to the previous post with which I agree, with AK, you block half of KK+ combos.

Oct. 18, 2018 | 9:55 p.m.


If the villain’s range is capped, this is only because the range does not have any straights: the villain would have c-bet on the turn with a straight, and even on the river with KQ. Since you checked back on the turn, it is difficult to tell the villain you have hit a straight on the river: the 7d is a brick and, concerning bluff catchers, you block AJs and ATs, but not TT nor KJs; the villain may make an easy X / C on the river with a set, an overpair and maybe TP with a blocker such as KJs. In other words, if you wanted to bet, you should have done it on the turn rather than on the river to try to make the villain fold anything lower or equal to a set and deny equity to the part of the range wanting a free card (by the way, the villain does not have many straights: KQs, KQo, maybe 87s if the villain has 3-bet in a polarised way).

Oct. 17, 2018 | 6:21 a.m.

You can also bet 1/3 pot. Actually, the sizing is a little secundary in this context, since you have enough FE on such a board for the reason I mentioned above whatever the c-bet sizing.

Oct. 17, 2018 | 5:48 a.m.


I agree with Jbarez and frontdoorbackdoor : versus a reg who does not defend blinds so much or who is weak, you should c-bet this kind of board with full range (2/3 pot), all the more as your stealing range hits such a board more than the villain’s defending range.

Oct. 15, 2018 | 2:35 p.m.


As played flop, nice sizing, but a X back is also fine on a paired dry board to keep the villain’s bluffing ranges.

As played turn, nothing to say.

As played river, nothing to say about your raise, which can find value on some trips (KJs, QJs, JTs if the villain is a bit loose) and maybe some PP. But, easy fold versus the villain’s 3-bet: you only beat 77 and you need 38% equity to make a good call 3-bet; your hand only has 26% equity versus { AA, JJ, 77, AJs, AJo }, a range with which the villain can have played like that, including on the flop and on the turn (to keep all your bluffing ranges, including on the turn, and let you put a second barrel on the turn) and I do not think the villain 3-bets and shoves on the river with just trips, KK or QQ.

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Oct. 9, 2018 | 6:16 p.m.

I have ran 7 bb/100 on over 150K hands on 10NL zoom.

Nice sample and winrate.

My BRM is quite aggressive with shots at a bit more than 20-25 Buy-ins with a stoploss of 2 buy ins. Maybe it is something I should probably change, to 30-40 BI?

Generally, on micro and low stakes, it is recommended to have a BR between 30 and 50 BI. For shots, I am not annoyed with your aggressive BRM, since you are prepared to move down if you lose a predefined number of BIs. The scheme generally used for shots is stop loss at 3 BIs, then stop win at 10 BIs before trying another shot. But, since you are at NL25, it is time to have a more conservative BRM to try a shot at NL50, all the more as you do not have as many recreational players as at micro stakes.

"Crushing" 50NL at least 4bb/100 in 50NL is actually not my goal to become pro, much more around 100NL at 4bb/100.

NL50 is the stake from which you can be sure most of the regs you meet are pros.

For the rest, I do have a plan B. I live in France, and when stopping your studies halfway, you have a system that allows you to come back right at the level of studies you stopped, which is really great. :)

Even with such a great possibility, it is always better to finish your studies first, even though your plan B is to go back to studies. By the way, I live in France, too (but, I have not been a student any longer for ages). ;-)

I tend work on my game a lot, what I am looking for is a way to do it very efficiently.

If, in spite of your efforts, you do not manage to work on your game efficiently, you can consider taking some coaching, by choosing a coach who can give you a methodology (if you want to know a good French-speaking coach, feel free to send me a PM). You can also find or create a working group where to talk about hands, sessions and make reviews, an ideal working group having few players (4 or 5 at maximum), but all motivated to improve.

About zoom tables, I play them about 70% of the time and the rest are regular tables sessions. a lot of what you say might be true, but I use this much more than a tool to improve my game very quickly than a way to have a higher bb/100

IMHO, it is more important to focus on winrate than to do everything very quickly, all the more as the higher are the stakes you will play at, the less will be the expected winrate. When focusing on winrate, you pay more attention to any potential spot because there are never little pots: every pot you can win is good to take; and I do not think most Zoom players do so. In other words, hurry up slowly. ;-)

Oct. 8, 2018 | 4:35 p.m.


PF, I would open raise to $0.25 from the button.

On the flop, I would not be annoyed if you checked back for the reasons you give. As played flop, the villain’s X / R means hands needing some protection versus FDs: 98s and 98o for a straight, 77 and 66 for a set, T7s-T6s and 76s for two-pair and many TP (ATs, ATo, KTs, KTo, QTs, QTo, JTs, JTo, T8s+, T8o+), maybe 99-88 (which also have a GS); maybe there are GSs with a 9 or a 8 and 85s as an OESD in the X / R range; and I think the villain rather checks / calls with a FD because of sufficient implied odds, so we can consider the remaining clubs clean outs. The X / R gives 2.7:1 pot odds and, with 12 clean outs and 2 streets to come, it is fine to call.

As played turn, the 3s is not a clean out any more, but it is still fine to call.

The villain’s X on the river is a good opportunity to make an overbet (120% or 150% pot) in bluff because I think the villain’s range is capped: two-pairs (KTs, KTo, QTs, QTo, T7s-T6s, 76s), sets (77-66) and a weak straight (98s and 98o are blocking J9, but not AJ) which are not happy with this K, hope a check back and find a fold versus a bet, all the easier as the bet sizing is big. In other words, the villain would have bet on the river with J9, blocking AJ.

Oct. 7, 2018 | 9:18 p.m.


I started to grind seriously probably a month ago, 10NL I ran very good with a high winrate

How many hands did you play at NL10 and with which winrate? How is your bankroll management: with which BR did you start playing at NL25?

I want to become a pro so bad, and I try to find a balance between my studies and going ham on poker

If you want to consider living off poker, at least trying to do so during one year, make sure:

  • you have finished your studies and have time;

  • you have put enough money aside to eat, pay the rent, pay subscriptions to RIO videos, pay coachings and so on during one year without having to make frequent cashes-out (ideally $20k to $40k);

  • you are able to play 60k hands per month;

  • you crush at least the NL50 stake at 4bb/100 over 300k hands;

  • your BR is at least 100 times your current stake, ideally 150 times (for example, at least $5000, ideally $7500, to play at NL50);

  • you have a close family or friends who support your project;

  • you have a plan B if you do not manage.

I am getting really depressed in my everyday life since a year or two, and the only thing that really turns me on is poker.

Passion is very good, but I do not think it is good to only rely on poker to find balance. The problem is that personal problems have an impact on grind. If you are depressed, it will be hard to you to be motivated to grind and you will risk forcing yourself to grind just because you need to grind; and if your current bad run continues, such a laziness turns into despondency; and if you keep on forcing yourself to grind, the more you force yourself, the more you are disheartened and a bad run leads you to feel angry or to fall into despair; and if you fall into despair, either you will make a long break and will not feel better once back at the tables if the bad run is back, too, or you will force yourself even more, risking suffering from depression or a burnout. In other words, if you resolve your technical leaks without working on your mental, you will never go further enough.

That said, I am looking for the most efficient paths to follow to get good enough. Which spots to review in particular? I feel like reviewing a lot of hands doesn't really help me understanding what my biggest leaks are. Where to find my biggest leaks? How to maximize the value of having a database such as HM2? Thanks a lot.

1/3 of the time spent in poker has to be dedicated to working on your game. To work on your game efficiently, it is good to define one subject to work on per week (for example, blind defense versus LP steal), to tag hands ingame concerning the subject and to study these hands not at the end of your sessions, but at a moment when you are off table completely. And, when you watch videos, take organised notes so that so you can read them again regularly.

I noticed you were playing at Zoom tables. I advice you to play on classical cash game tables. Fast fold cash game is not the best format to improve your game: you have no dynamics (for example, you are never sure if a player 3-betting all-in is doing so on tilt or because of a premium), it is harder to have histories on your oponents, even if they are regs, the pace involved by such a format prevents you to play slowly and pay more attention to actions, it is very hard to take notes ingame and it is a bad format when you have mental leaks. In other words, Zoom is only good when you are streaming your cash game sessions on Twitch.

Oct. 7, 2018 | 6:40 p.m.


Is it your standard to open to 2.3bb from the CO? PF, you should always open to 3bb from the CO.

On the flop, on a paired dry board, I would either X / C or c-bet lower (1/3 pot, with a plan to c-bet 3/4 pot on many turns): you can target not only Jx, but also many PP, some overcards and many BDF.

As played turn, since you c-bet on the flop, you can c-bet 3/4 pot: the card on the turn is more a brick than a scare card and such a sizing can still make some PP call once more, in addition to weaker FDs such as 65s, 54s and maybe 86s and 64s.

As played river, I would bet either lower (1/3 pot) or higher (at least 2/3 pot) to target hands such as JT or A2s without spades, maybe other Jx such as AJ or KJ with As or Ks and some bluff catchers like AJ or AT, lower to make the villain call because it is cheap, higher to make the sizing suspicious enough for the villain to call with these hands. Versus the villain’s raise, I think the villain probably just calls with a weaker flush; so, the raising range contains 22, 77, maybe JJ-TT (in case the villain has a mix of call raise / 3-bet PF) and higher flushes (A8s, A6s-A2s, K8s, K6s-K2s) wanting to be called by weaker ones.

Some are tempted by a call on the river. The raise sizing lets us need to win 25.9% of the time to make a correct call: we have to risk $2.92 ($4.26 - $1.34) to win $8.35 ($2.75 + $1.34 + $4.26), that is 2.92 ÷ (2.92 + 8.35) ≈ 0.259. If the villain can raise with weak flushes (65s, 54s, maybe 86s and 64s), we only have 20% equity versus { JJ-TT, 77, 22, As8s, As6s-As2s, Ks8s, Ks6s-Ks2s, 8s6s, 6s4s+, 5s4s }, in which case the best decision is to fold (of course, we are drawing dead if the villain only raises with { JJ-TT, 77, 22, As8s, As6s-As2s, Ks8s, Ks6s-Ks2s }). The main question is: can the villain dare to raise with top two-pair (JT) and trips (A2s, K2s), thinking the 1/2 pot bet looks like a thin value bet with just a single J or a single T? The best decision depends on the answer to that crucial question. If the answer is yes, we have 34% equity versus { JJ-TT, 77, 22, As8s, As6s-As3s, A2s, Ks8s, Ks6s-Ks3s, K2s, JTs, JTo }, 43% versus { JJ-TT, 77, 22, As8s, As6s-As3s, A2s, Ks8s, Ks6s-Ks3s, K2s, JTs, JTo, 8s6s, 6s4s+, 5s4s }, in which case we have enough equity to make a good call.

To me, ingame, I would have folded.

Some Flopzilla (raise river excluding weak flushes, top two-pair and trips):

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Some Flopzilla (raise river including weak flushes, but excluding top two-pair and trips):

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Some Flopzilla (raise river excluding weak flushes, but including top two-pair and trips):

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Some Flopzilla (raise river including all flushes, top two-pair and trips):

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Oct. 7, 2018 | 4:46 p.m.


PF, versus the villain’s open at 3.5bb, I would 3-bet to 10.5bb ($0.21). I do not think you need to 3-bet higher than $0.21, even if you are OOP, as no one voluntarily put money before the villain. And versus the villain’s 4-bet, I would go broke with AK; so, the best line here is to 5-bet all-in PF: a call to 5-bets all-in can contain KK+, of course, but also AK, and a 5-bet shove with AK can also make a light 4-bet fold.

The problem with 4-bet pots is that they are some of the best ways to waste your winrate. When calling a 4-bet with hands such as AK or Axs and Kxs with A and K played as blockers, you will X / F most of the time, unless you hit a monster. If your X / R on the flop is called, your hand has 14% equity versus { QQ+, ATs, KTs } (in case the villain has a light 4-bet range with Axs and Kxs), 15.6% versus QQ+ and 12.6% only versus KK+; in addition, when making a X / R all-in, you need to see such a move succeed 46% of the time (you are risking $1.44 to have a $1.68 reward, that is $1.14 + $0.54: the formula is 1.44 ÷ [1.44 + 1.68] ≈ 0.46), which means you do not have enough equity to make a profitable X / R all-in; so, as played flop, this is an easy X / F: the villain will never c-bet in a 4-bet pot with just AK and I am not sure the villain always c-bets in a 4-bet pot with QQ or JJ or 4-bets PF with these two pockets.

Oct. 7, 2018 | 2:42 p.m.


I agree with ExiL97 . I invite you to submit your current sample and winrate to a poker variance calcutator: you will see variance still has an impact. With a 20kh sample at +10.5bb/100, supposing the standard deviation is defined at 80bb/100, you get this:

  • within a 70% confidence interval, the best scenario is +3,231bb (+16.16bb/100) and the worst +969bb (+4.84bb/100);

  • within a 95% confidence interval, the best scenario is +4,363bb (+21.81bb/100) and the worst -163bb (-0.81bb/100), which means you can be breakeven over 20k hands;

  • overall, the best scenario can be +5,550bb (+27.75bb/100) and the worst -1,234bb (-6.17bb/100), which means a downswing period is still possible.

I let you imagine how huge is the variance impact on a smaller sample and/or on the same sample with a lower winrate. And don’t forget a 4bb/100 winrate is much more realistic than a 10bb/100 one, which supposes a very big sample to reduce the variance impact.

Oct. 7, 2018 | 1:56 p.m.

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