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Richard - The last hand. Your bluff catcher with A8.

Does your call frequency change based on the opponents bet size, and if so, can you discuss how.

ie..1/2 pot, 3/4 pot and full pot


1) Specifically if in your experience does the larger bet size indicate anything (nuts or air) more so than the smaller bet sizes? ie...If 1/2 pot always looks like value, wouldn't that be the best bluff/air sizing too?

2) This specific concept, in your experience how does it tend to change (if at all) as one ascends into bigger tougher games? ie...is full pot always the nuts at 1-2 PLO, but at 5-10, 10-20 higher frequency of bluffs?


April 28, 2024 | 7:21 p.m.

Cory and others - On the nut flush blocker hand, thoughts on how the 4th suit on the river should change the NF blocker bet sizing (and/or betting at all)? As well as if the river pairs the board what is your and the solvers suggested action for NF blocker bettor?

My thoughts are the 4th suit increases the likelihood of opponent calling with non nut flushes, so in some situations should we give up and check? We can't do that against good opponents, so that we will get paid off when we do have the NF?

Also when the river pairs the board, NF blocker betting seems out of line since usually wouldn't bet with the NF, but then checking is just giving up the pot in that spot. Do we take a 1/2 pot bet fold approach?

Am I leveling myself? Or is it okay to give up some bluff attempts on theoretically bad rivers for what we are representing when HU going into the river with the betting lead?

March 17, 2024 | 7:52 p.m.

Thank you Paul. Flop bet sizing, 1/2 pot or 1/3rd?

March 13, 2024 | 6:17 a.m.

5 Handed, UTG I limp AQJ8 SS to the Q. (The thought process is 85BB stack I don’t really want to play the hand in a 3 bet pot OOP, the 2 players behind me are aggressive preflop, nor do I want to raise fold the hand) and UTG+1 raises pot…I call, we are heads up. 238 rainbow, check/check, turn a rainbow 9 I bet half pot, he calls. River is a T, I make the nuts…

What river play (check or bet) sizing (if bet) do you suggest for me and why? If I check and he bets, size of X-raise?

March 4, 2024 | 8:19 a.m.

2-5 PLO I open to$15 TTJQ DS UTG, cutoff, button and BB call. Flop is 89T rainbow, I lead $45 into 3 others/$60, get called by LAG/maniac cutoff with 2 behind who both fold, turn is T, I check he bets $130 into $150, I call and have $223 left, pot is $409. River is 6. You have quads and the flopped straight.

What is your play and why? Just bet $223 into $409 so opponent doesn't check back with a hand he would call with or check and hope he bets with a hand he wouldn't call with?

Do you like a different flop action on my part? I could see checking and giving the cutoff/button a chance to get out line. I had been running bad in the session and was hoping to just get it in vs a naked QJ...

March 3, 2024 | 11:33 p.m.

I was a little frustrated at the time as he was owning me with trash hands, we were 4 handed.

4 handed, Maniac opens on button, I 3 bet from BB with a 120BB starting stack. AAT8 SS. Flop is AJ4 all spades I have T of spades, I lead $30 into $90, he makes it $128, I pot to $476 leaving $92 behind and get that in on 6 turn and river doesn’t pair. He has K956 ss for the nut flush.

I don’t like my flop play, from the perspective if he is running naked NF bluff vs me, my re-jam takes that away from him and he will fold. If he has the NF a flush I am 36% and I am losing $, but my concern was if the board pairs he probably won’t put more $ in. (the right thought vs a solid player, but vs a maniac he might put it in/call off anyway). He probably isn’t raising there with JJ which I would want to keep in.

Thoughts/suggestions? Specifically the idea of playing the set on a flush board. Either in this hand or in general. Thanks!

March 3, 2024 | 11:25 p.m.

1) Nice! Would like to see the continuation of this theme on playing the river with these hands. Bet size when the board pairs? What to do when the river doesn't pair the board.

2) I understand the relevance of unblocking straight draws that will continue on the flop and likely fold to the flush completing turn when bet into or x raised, but that part of the game tree goes away on the river as most opponents aren't continuing with straight draws after the flush completes, right?

Feb. 26, 2024 | 8:22 a.m.

Can you expand on why we would stack off/continue with bottom 2 pair + FD, but in some cases fold top 2?

ie...With top 2 we have card removal against top/middle set, with bottom 2 we unblock top pair/set and I would think are more likely to be up against top set, or at best top pair with 9 side cards to improve to a better 2 pair, plus any other improvements opponent may have (FD and or SD).


Feb. 5, 2024 | 7 a.m.

Comment | 1974blue commented on Study With Me

Just call and fade a club is best here since the SPR is still pretty big. If the SPR was much shorter we'd just go with it but we can still fade some turns at this SPR.

So call flop raise and lead pot/all in on non club turn (maybe exception for board pairing), and check with the intention of folding on club turns?

Dec. 28, 2022 | 7:41 a.m.

Comment | 1974blue commented on Study With Me

AAT9 hand - As far as bet sizing on the flop. Do you see the bet size changing 3 ways vs if HU? If not, why wouldn't it change?

Thoughts on 1/2 pot 3 ways and 2/3 to 3/4 pot HU?

Dec. 27, 2022 | 6:54 a.m.

Comment | 1974blue commented on Study With Me

T7 Top 2 hand...When donking flop and getting raised (most likely to occur when facing AA with NFD) what is the plan?

Dec. 27, 2022 | 6:31 a.m.

The last hand top set of KK, you ended the video saying you didn't play the hand particularly well. What should you have done differently?

Nov. 6, 2022 | 7:48 a.m.

Hunter - Can you expand on why with the 3rd nuts to bet more often (80%) than with the 2nd nuts (70%).

Understand with the nuts, to bet less, due to inducing bluffs and going for X raise, but since we aren't check raising with 2nd or 3rd nuts (are we ever suppose to X raise with #2 or #3?), surprised that betting #3 is a higher frequency than #2.


July 4, 2022 | 3 a.m.

Thanks Emty. That answers it!

Jan. 2, 2022 | 9:42 p.m.

How do you see incorporating bet sizing into the CBet %'s?

ie...Bigger bet sizing on KJ7 flushdraw vs Q73 rainbow...and how important to have 1 bet size for full range vs 2 or more bet sizes?

Jan. 2, 2022 | 7:05 a.m.

Comment | 1974blue commented on PLO Question

As the PFR in a multiway pot, say on a flop of AT6 with a flush draw, I don't see the benefit of betting small with a made hand, (set or top 2), on the turn about half the deck will bring a straight or flush possibility and either slow down the action or our opponent drew out cheaply.

Why doesn't AA or TT need protection/equity denial in that spot?

Dec. 25, 2021 | 8:31 p.m.

Thanks Emty!

The game was 8 handed.

My play was player dependent, and I felt he could get out of line, but also if he did have the nut flush that he wouldn't likely check the turn for fear of not getting value from me, if he did have the nut flush, to me nothing in the play of the hand to that point indicating I would bet if checked to.

I also for some reason felt he had KK with the Q blocker.

His hand was AJ of spades Q of hearts and off suit 8

Dec. 25, 2021 | 6:39 a.m.

I bet about 2/3rd pot, $25, and villain pretty much min XR to $62 leaving just under a pot size bet on the river.

River is brick 7 and he shoves...

Dec. 20, 2021 | 7:12 p.m.

Paul in the AAJ3 hand around the 6 minute mark.

In hand you checked flop, in review mentioned you prefer a bet.

On the river:

1) Do you see merit to any other size than pot? 2/3rd, 3/4?

2) Do you see the answer to #1 changing based on the betting/checking the flop?

As played, I think checking back flop on 489 with the nut flush draw is less believable to general population than betting IP as PFR with the nut flush draw.

Do you think that flop action is an important factor on what we do on the river? ie...less likely to get called on the river if betting the flop vs more likely to get called on river when we don't cbet that flop?

Dec. 19, 2021 | 7:02 p.m.

PLO $200 100BB starting stack. LAG ish reg opens pot UTG, I call ATT5 DS on button, T5 of hearts, blinds fold.

AK4 flop with AK of hearts, Villain bets $10.50 into $16, I call.

Turn is 6H, Villain checks.

What do you do and why?

Dec. 19, 2021 | 8:23 a.m.

KK88 hand - Would be interesting to see how monker suggests playing the hand post flop, specifically bet sizing.

On the flop unblocking diamonds and QJ9, bigger sizing than 2/3rd pot?

On turn and river, any sizing besides pot?

Dec. 19, 2021 | 8:05 a.m.

Interesting videos...When you post your third one can you include the results of all these?

Ie 20 tourneys played, Bought in for x$, cashed in X of tourneys for a total return of x....


So far (or maybe comment at the end) would you say you are running even, ahead, behind of expectations?

Aug. 5, 2013 | 5:45 a.m.

CO: JAP903JAP903: $517.84
BN: ItsGoTimeNow: $100
SB: 1974blue: $181.51
BB: dvz722: $80.95
HJ: badoobi: $598.53
Preflop ($3.00) (5 Players)
1974blue was dealt 4 7 A 6
badoobi raises to $6, JAP903JAP903 folds, ItsGoTimeNow folds, 1974blue calls $5, dvz722 calls $4
Flop ($18.00) 6 Q A (3 Players)
1974blue checks, dvz722 checks, badoobi bets $9, 1974blue calls $9, dvz722 folds
Turn ($36.00) A (2 Players)
1974blue checks, badoobi bets $20, 1974blue calls $20
River ($76.00) T (2 Players)
1974blue checks, badoobi bets $20, 1974blue calls $20
Final Pot
badoobi has K T 3 T 1974blue has 4 7 A 6 1974blue wins $112

Aug. 2, 2013 | 5:35 a.m.

Thanks all!

July 31, 2013 | 4:23 a.m.

Post | 1974blue posted in Chatter: Back to back MTT wins!

Pretty cool 24 hours!

Took down the PLO and then the HORSE tourney!

July 29, 2013 | 7:27 a.m.

Comment | 1974blue commented on Please no Diamond..

IMO, it is either the flush or a missed straight draw like K-Q-J-x  or in this spot even just a hand like A-Q-J-x.

Very player dependent spot, as some players frequently check jam the flop with their nut flush draws especially out of position, others don't.

You don't often see players bet low flushes for a big bet out of position, especially with chips behind.

As described, I'd be inclined to call and expect to see naked A of diamonds so he knows you don't have the nuts with a missed straight... 

With the nut flush I would expect to see a move earlier in the hand or a smaller bet on the river, like half pot...

July 28, 2013 | 6:52 a.m.

Wanted to get other ideas here...

What is the standard line in PLO regarding river bet sizing when the draw gets there?

Standard situations like we open in position and get 3 bet by one of the blinds, 10-9-2 rainbow flop, turn a 3, river brings a straight card with an 8 or K action is flop - cbet/call - Turn - cbet/call and river is checked to you...

I play primarily .25-.50 and .50-$1, dabble in the $1-2/$2/4 but in those games, usually short and usually play fold or get it in on flop or pre...When deep, in the 25-50/50-1 games, ff we bet pot on the river, rarely if ever does it seemed we get called if opponent doesn't have straight, against some opponents, we get paid off a higher frequency on the J-Q.

Also same situation but 2 flush on the flop, same action river brings the flush.

In these situations I haven't experienced value in betting pot with my nuts and my air.

I have had good results (IMO) with betting 40-60% of pot in these spots, I haven't found opponent is calling my airs and not paying me off, I get paid off more and get my bluffs called more... where as in betting pot rarely get paid off, and get called sometimes with air (when opponent has 2nd/3rd nut usually..)

So I am thinking I am reducing my variance without lowering equity(perhaps increasing it, by getting paid off more..) by reducing the bet size in all river draw hits situations...

Wondering others thoughts here...I am on the right track, missing something, at the bigger limits? How could this be exploitable?


July 27, 2013 | 6:31 a.m.


Enjoying your videos...2 things.

1) The A-A-9-2 hand. I don't think it matters much equity wise whether you play it as you did, or if you flat pre. I think the big difference is going to be the variance. As played we are going to triple up ish or lose, where as flatting pre, is playing stack control...

What is preferred? I think depends on opponents, the tougher the opponents more I like the jam, against lesser opponents who regularly stack off with top 2, any set, any pair+flush draw...When we get an Ace flop or flush draw we can get our stack in being 70%+...

Against Twin Caracas you mentioned his 25% 3 bet percentage, and that you felt it was even higher vs you personally.

What do you think a solid players 3 bet % and other #'s should be, VPIP, CBET etc...(in a vacuum)

Also it looked like your cbet #'s were 23%. So just jumped out at me during the video that you mentioned how wide/loose Twin Caracas was/is, when your #'s look similar, but perhaps you were referencing how he comes after you?

Following up on that, what about against opponents who make our life tough in that manner, moving seats, or taking seats where we are in position against them, or at least a position or 2 to their right, rather than on their immediate right.

July 27, 2013 | 6:04 a.m.

Post | 1974blue posted in PLO: Set blockers crushed
1-2 PLO Hi Lo...

I have A-K-J with board of A-K-Q and up against A-A-K.

Does set blockers/straight blockers work better for others?

Seems like so many times my blockers just get me buried...

Merge Game #71139491-571 | Omaha H/L8 PL ($1/$2) | 07/23/2013 00:56:56 EST | Version:2Table Malaysia (71139491), Seats 6Seat 1: KidSqueeze ($88.00 in chips) DEALERSeat 2: tonyjulian ($216.17 in chips)Seat 3: sumando1 ($173.34 in chips)Seat 4: HippieFlip ($609.78 in chips)Seat 6: 1974blue ($328.10 in chips)tonyjulian: Post SB $1.00sumando1: Post BB $2.00*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to 1974blue [Js Kd 5d Ad]HippieFlip: Fold1974blue: Raise $5.75KidSqueeze: Raise $20.25tonyjulian: Foldsumando1: Fold1974blue: Call $14.50*** FLOP *** [Qh Ah Ks]1974blue: CheckKidSqueeze: Bet $43.501974blue: Raise $87.00KidSqueeze: Allin $24.25*** TURN *** [8c]*** RIVER *** [4d]*** SUMMARY ***KidSqueeze: Shows [Ac 7d Kc As]1974blue: Shows [Js Kd 5d Ad]KidSqueeze: wins $175.001974blue: wins $19.25 (uncalled)

July 23, 2013 | 7:31 a.m.

Post | 1974blue posted in PLO: Blockers crushed...
Seems like a pretty standard occurrence, other than folding preflop what can I do?

Board has 2 flush draws on the turn, to many set, 2 pair and Aces with flush draw hands to lay down IMO...

I put him on Aces with a flush draw, a hand like A-A-K-7

Merge Game #71141484-253 | Omaha PL ($0.50/$1) | 07/23/2013 00:26:56 EST | Version:2Table Torshavn (71141484), Seats 6Seat 2: sheriffearl ($183.22 in chips) DEALERSeat 3: andinista420 ($149.06 in chips)Seat 4: daddyslittlebabygirl ($65.52 in chips)Seat 5: 1974blue ($103.82 in chips)andinista420: Post SB $0.50daddyslittlebabygirl: Post BB $1.00*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to 1974blue [6s Tc Ts 9d]1974blue: Raise $3.50sheriffearl: Foldandinista420: Folddaddyslittlebabygirl: Raise $11.001974blue: Call $7.50*** FLOP *** [Kd Qc Jd]daddyslittlebabygirl: Check1974blue: Bet $11.25daddyslittlebabygirl: Call $11.25*** TURN *** [7c]daddyslittlebabygirl: Bet $30.001974blue: Raise $60.00daddyslittlebabygirl: Allin $13.27*** RIVER *** [6d]*** SUMMARY ***daddyslittlebabygirl: Shows [Ad As 8s Td]1974blue: Shows [6s Tc Ts 9d]daddyslittlebabygirl: wins $129.541974blue: wins $16.73 (uncalled)

July 23, 2013 | 7:26 a.m.

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