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How would you play this hand? I've reviewed it many times and I still have doubts.I do not want to influence in your answer so I'll write down my reasoning process afterwards.

CashGame - Holdem no limit (0.02€/0.05€) - 2023/02/07
Table: 5-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: (3.24€)
Seat 2: (9.24€)
Seat 3: Hero (5.49€)
Seat 4: (4.02€)
Seat 5: (5€)

posts small blind 0.02€
posts big blind 0.05€
Dealt to Hero [Ts Ks]

MP raises 0.09€ to 0.14€
Hero raises 0.18€ to 0.32€
MP calls 0.18€

FLOP [4s 2s 5h]
MP checks
Hero bets 0.25€
MP raises 0.50€ to 0.75€
Hero calls 0.50€

TURN [4s 2s 5h][Kh]
MP bets 1.25€
Hero calls 1.25€

RIVER [4s 2s 5h Kh][3c]
MP bets 6.92€ and is all-in
Hero folds
MP collected 11.36€ from pot

Total pot 11.36€ | Rake 0.27€
Board: [4s 2s 5h Kh 3c]
Seat 2: MP won 11.36€

Feb. 9, 2023 | 5:24 p.m.

I would never fold AA in this spot in NL2. People tend to overvalue their top pairs, they could do this with draws and yes, also he could have TT, JJ, even 88 as well (the 4bet range for fish is not as wide as it should be), and sometimes, only sometimes you will face sets. Nevertheless I think calling this nonsense shove in the flop from your opponent is EV+.
No need to overthink the hand in NL2.

Feb. 9, 2023 | 4:25 p.m.

Excellent video, Phil. It'd be great to keep seeing videos like these.

I have one more question related to the same hand MorronGun mentioned (12:25): What's essentially the difference between this hand and the hand played in the bottom right on min 35:32?
12:25 => small size
35:32 => pot size

Thanks again and GL!

March 27, 2020 | 8:24 p.m.

I really like Nick's analysis but I would like to add something into consideration: it's not the same to be OOP or IP in these cases.

With KK:
IP I would never slowplay anything in a multiway pot, specially in a multiway pot.
Deep OOP c/c seems to be the better option and then c/r in turn with basically any card. Maybe another c/c if the card gives us chances to have a good protection of the hand. Besides, if we got all the good cards, c/r would probably make the villain to fold more often.
If our is not well protected, then c/r looks like the best option to avoid giving the villain good pot/odds.
With 88:
This spot is harder and to be honest I don't have an answer for this. Yesterday I lost really big pots to bigger sets more than one time in a few hours so I'm reconsidering my ideas about these spots.

Thoughts, comments? All are welcome.

Oct. 4, 2017 | 6:47 p.m.

Very nice analysis.
The main problem here in my opinion is that hands will always be tricky AND you're deep. Those two combined are a direct way to lose money.

Oct. 4, 2017 | 5:50 p.m.

I wasn't active lately here so I could say I'm new... What's the flag for?

Sept. 14, 2017 | 7:07 p.m.

I agree with everything you say except for one thing: What would the size to fold there? Betting so small you are inviting the villain to re-raise and you are also helping him to increase the pot and kick you out.

Sept. 14, 2017 | 4:53 p.m.

I agree with plolearnerguy. I would check. You are basically betting on a AA and runner runner for the straight.
I wouldn't increase the pot under these circumstances.

Sept. 14, 2017 | 4:47 p.m.

Zerodegrees has a good point. When I see 4 of the same type on the table I know that makes the flush less likely.

Zinom1, "Once he calls flop his range is mostly flushes" Why? BB vs BN, with that board, there are many possibilities. Many type of straights draws, double pairs, sets, combination of them and also as Zerodegrees mentioned plus to the Q.

Now, the action on the River makes me doubt about what he has.
Would you play that way having SF? I wouldn't.

Sept. 14, 2017 | 4:34 p.m.

Comment | FedericoSting commented on 78s 3bet pot 10z

I agree mostly with Tyler's answer.

Just wanted to add: I really don't think you will make anybody fold in this street in a 3bet pot so, so you can check and wait for cards like the one you got in the river or the cards that completes your draw.

June 14, 2017 | 2:52 p.m.

Comment | FedericoSting commented on KK on wet board

I agree with Kuduku. cbet larger, this way the SPR goes down and you can stack-off happily.
Considering the call range to our 3betting range, this board has too many draws to check + call. This is an excellent spot for check-raising or betting large to make it expensive for the draws.
If the guy has a set, too bad. We can't fold one of our best hands in this spot.

June 9, 2017 | 1:42 p.m.

I believe davidnso is right, probably the push-ups are the ones making you anxious. I believe meditation and strenght exercise provoke the exact opposite effects on a person.
Maybe I would also avoid seeing the long term goals...

May 19, 2016 | 4:43 a.m.

Comment | FedericoSting commented on TT NL25

I only will ask a simple question: if you're folding set of T, what would you pay with? Only AQ? Pretty easy to exploit I think. Choose your best hands to call these weird moves. TT is one of them.

May 18, 2016 | 9:52 p.m.

If the villain already shot 2 barrels, with such a move you'll be forcing AKd, AQd, 89d, to fold, and mostly called by QQ-AA.

May 13, 2016 | 4:34 p.m.

Based on my experience they test you pretty often by raising or check- raising and if you show any weakness on the turn by checking, the bet really strong on the river. I would definitely call and take notes as the rest said. There's a high chance to win that pot, definitely more than 1/3 of the times.

May 9, 2016 | 5:07 p.m.

Maybe this is a silly question but if I don't ask it, I wouldn't learn:

given it's likely to be called by AXs, poker pairs and some suited connectors: is it a good idea to put money on a put like this? We will be losing in most cases and if we hit the Q or the K we still don't know if we're losing or not.

May 5, 2016 | 3:21 p.m.

As MorronGun said, it's a limp pot, but I would definitely raise given the hand we hold.

May 5, 2016 | 3:13 p.m.

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