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Onkleb

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Saulo Ribeiro

I agree and i understand what opportunities could be missed if not moving up. I consciously know that moving up should be a big priority, given what i could bring. What i tried to describe was how my view over moving up looks like and how its totally biased and untrue. But what i think is important that im aware over some of my biases and i can actively work to overcome those.

Ultimately poker is only our occupation. Our ultimate goal should be to maximize our satisfaction and well being in life as a whole.

Totally agree. Thats why poker as a profession is a balancing act. And what comes to life EV after certain point more money doesnt have great effect on your happiness. But on the other hand having extra $ in your account can really hurt either.

Lagasaurus

Right now poker players have excellent situation here in Finland. Poker is categorized as a game of chance , like slots, blackjack or any other gambling. That means that all winnings are completely tax-free. So there isnt any taxing that would incentive playing / winning less. On other topic, there is some chance that new government will try to block online gambling , which in worst case scenario could be really challenging for us poker players.

May 20, 2019 | 6:22 a.m.

Thats an excellent question.

Like i previously mentioned my longer term goals for poker arent as clear as they optimally would be. In the past i only saw negative things with moving up: Bigger swings, more competitive opponents and higher stress. I wasnt able to see the positives: Possibility to higher winnings in term of $, lower winrate is "allowed", possibility to progress in career and more rapid development. Its funny to look back to start of 2018 when my clear goal was to break trough to 200z. My biased assumptions about how tough the games would be just because you move from one stake to another were absurd. Fortunately i was able to see trough my assumptions and realize that humans are humans no matter the stake, and that same leaks and weaknesses where present in both stakes.

What im trying to say that my mind still puts too much emphasis on negatives that come with moving up and too little on things that are positive with that. Its hard to describe that to player that is really used to moving up in stakes. Remember that ive been playing nl100 stake regularly from around 2008 -> if i remember correctly.

So to answer you question :D : Currently no, but thats mainly because of my biased view on how moving up looks like.

May 10, 2019 | 9:37 a.m.

False Teller

When choosing betsizes you can think strictly in terms of theory ("what would pio use in this spot") or you can try to pick sizes that pool makes most mistakes against (some data is preferred to prove this one). In early streets you can usually just simplify to one strategic option, but on later streets its almost impossible to avoid "mixing".

I personally have three sizing options: Small bet (33%), normal bet (75%) and big bet (150%). Do i use these sizing in gto frequencies? Hell no. Do i think i have good reason when i use these bets? I think so.

What i tried to say in most post was that what size you pick doesnt really matter but in what frequencies you do it. And that there is so much what to focus on instead of exact sizings. So instead of worrying is this a big bet, small bet or medium bet spot id focus on how can i exploit the pool in this spot? Or do i have reads over this player / player profile which i can use to my advance in the hand? Of course sizings and exploits do hand in hand, but my point is to chance thinking from "perfect play" to exploiting play.

I dont know if i really answered your question, but those where just some thing that popped in my mind when reading it. (:

May 3, 2019 | 8:29 a.m.

Thanks!

Sure i have high tech solution for that. I just look the bottom part of the screen when i join tables :D

May 2, 2019 | 7:33 a.m.

Lagasaurus

Thanks and good luck in 200z tables! (:

May 2, 2019 | 7:22 a.m.

Elliot Roe Thank you sir. (:

To be honest i should do better job mapping what are my biggest goals at the moment and in the long run...

April 30, 2019 | 7:43 a.m.

I messed up when looking my stats and accidentally saw my results. Apparently i was able to book a winning month. graph stakes

I was fortunate to get some real rungood in last few weeks. Nothing special, just lots of coolers and marginal spots which all seemed to go in my way. Cant complain but also important not to put too much emphasis on that either.

Im pretty happy on my volume with still a lot of stuff going on. What suffered was studying which i did very little. But overall really happy on my performance. I know that putting descent volume is a leak of mine, so being able to play even this much is a real accomplishment. But yea i didnt have anything special to say, just wanted to share my results since i looked them up also. (:

April 29, 2019 | 1:31 p.m.

Saulo Ribeiro

Haha could be even 11. :D Yea i totally know how you feel. I was in exact same situation in early 2018, when we were selling our house and getting a new one. Good point about focusing on studying, since its way less mentally taxing than playing.

Af yes i forgot to mention that. So i went with intel 660p which is m. 2 nvme. Should be a bit faster than regular ssd.

April 12, 2019 | 7:52 a.m.

Thanks. Sure thing : link Heres some specs if you are interested :
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700
Motherboard: MSI B450 A PRO
RAM: Ballistix sport DDR4 3000mhz 16gb
GPU: MSI rx570 8gb
PSU: Evga 500b
Case: Corsair 100r

Prize with windows was around 720 €. Goal was to get pc that runs pio and h2n smoothly and can run newer games with ok settings if i get interested on those.

April 11, 2019 | 8:17 p.m.

Im having a bit tougher time with poker right now. Nothing really special or interesting but just regular downswing. Maybe a bit bigger than i am used to lately but still nothing crazy. Just more challenging to bring your A-game to the tables when you are having more rough sessions and hands in a row. What usually happens to me in a downswing is that i to try too much and end up forcing aggression and taking very unclear spots. After some spews i wake up and start to play my standard game with emphasis on taking only spots that im really confident they are +EV. This time is no exception to that cycle.

Added challenge is that i havent had as much time for poker as i would like. We are renovating our home right now, which takes a bit chunk of my both physical and mental energy. It could have some affect on my performance or it could be just a excuse, who knows. But luckily its coming to an end so i have more time to dedicate for poker.

Also i nerded up and build my very first pc. Basically just that H2N and pio would run i bit quicker. And man there is a big difference between 2014 and 2019 Pcs. Might even try some pc-games after a long break, since i assume this pc can run something more than age or empires 2.

Ok again a lot of rambling, gl at tables (:

April 11, 2019 | 11:30 a.m.

Nuno Alvarez Thank you as well. (:

April 2, 2019 | 4:17 p.m.

Thank you sir. (:

April 2, 2019 | 8:48 a.m.

Im having some troubles getting into poker rhythm. Some jetlag, a lot of stuff going on in other parts of life and somehow managed to get sick.

Goal for the next two months is to get back into balanced poker rhythm. Goal is to play 120k hands @ 200z, so that i can get my 200z sample to 500k. After that if everything looks good im going to make a decision whether to move up of continue playing 200z. For me mentally its important that i can show myself that i can beat given level in a big enough sample. Of course there isnt big enough sample that would remove variance entirely and there isnt such thing as "real winrate". But still i just feel that big sample with descent winrate gives me confidence which helps when things arent going in my way.

But yea, lets get the routines going and hopefully some EVdollars @ 200z. (:

March 28, 2019 | 9:12 p.m.

Yes i totally understand your point of view and its probably balanced than mine.

What i tried to say is that if i make 500z my goal i will commit to put in big enough sample to "proof" if i can beat the stake or not. What is good enough sample and wr is debatable but im pretty sure you get my point. Also if you havent followed my journey moving up in stakes has been one of my biggest challenges.

Also my graph in op is over 50% 100z, so wr at 200z is 7bb or lower, so nothing crazy.

Thanks for the support and I'll try to come up with more thought out answer when i get back home.

March 14, 2019 | 8:47 a.m.

Win small pots and lose big is my core strategy :)

March 14, 2019 | 6 a.m.

For really basic stuff, like preflop and very frequent postflop stuff own database is enough. For more spesific spots and different boards runouts etc you need larger database. So in database research bigger is almost always better.

Hmm i dont really see poker like that. Lets say i take a shot and play 50k hands 500z and win 10bb/100. Does that really tell anything about if im able to beat those games or not? Imo it tells nothing. If i decide to move to 500z i will make it a clear goal of mine and really put my full effort into it. Instead of just taking a shot and hoping something good comes out of it.

Sorry about messy answer, from pool with phone and very little thinking :)

March 14, 2019 | 5:59 a.m.

Some update before a long break :
STAKES GRAPH

Results from the last two months. Nothing special really, but at least i managed to book some EVdollars. Somehow i feel a bit disappointed even though results are reasonable when taking variance into consideration. I have been changing my game a bit which shows in occasional spews and misplays. But thats totally understandable and part of the learning process.

I didnt got anything special to say, just wanted to share results so far before heading to Thailand. While being there im hoping to find direction where to head next in terms of poker. Whether to try to move up quickly or put descent volume in at 200z.

Feb. 24, 2019 | 8:48 p.m.

Suffered a bad beat few days ago. My computer broke and last few days ive been spending on trying to get it work and installing everything back again. Really frustrating since whole weeks playing schedule and rhythm went totally off. Today i was finally able to get session in and trying to get back into poker routines. Funny that i feel a bit angry to myself for falling back from my volume goal, even though this time it wasnt my fault.

Was able to test out RIOpoker yesterday. Overall really pleasant experience. Playing was really fun and easy to see that it could attract a lot of funplayers (if they somehow stumble to the site). Splash pots are also really nice way to offer rb. Also super +EV if you really know how to play those spots.

Feb. 8, 2019 | 12:24 p.m.

Kinda hard to do even a month update when you arent checking the results. Well i played 51k hands which is a bit under my volume goal. But nothing alarming. Been studying a lot and i have been very open for changing my game. I noticed that last few month at the end of 2018 i basically just played and didnt really focus on improving my game. Of course it more a challenge trying to improve, but on the long run it will pay off for sure. Now it sometimes feels that im just spewing around, even though i know some spot is +EV in a long run. Especially bluffcathcing in new spots can be really mentally taxing, given how often you are still wrong in those spots. What i mean is that in almost all bluffcatch spots you call and expect to lose very very often (60%+). So when you have spot that is still new and a bit unclear for you and then you bluffcatch it five times and lose all of them you can easily start to question is this spewing or not. Even though you know it will be +EV in the long run.

For February goal is to play 54k hands before 25.2 Then im off to Thailand for 3,5weeks and on that time my goal is to have zero poker content in my life. Not like i would be burnt out or anything, just that my mind is really able to reset and recharge for the rest of the year. But until that, lets keep good poker routines going. (:

edit. Remember to put some hands in at riopoker starting from tomorrow. I missed the betatesting so im really pumped to see what they have come up with. See you guys there!

Feb. 5, 2019 | 10:05 a.m.

gambler91 :

ChaoRen123 nailed it basically. If you are just starting out focus more on very general stuff. As you progress you can look into more and more subtle spots, such as boards, runouts, sizings, player profils etc. Sometimes when i play i have a thought / feeling that some specific spot might be worth looking into. Then i just mark the spot and review it later w hand2note to see if my gut feeling was true or false.

Feb. 5, 2019 | 9:46 a.m.

Congratulations!

Feb. 3, 2019 | 10:48 p.m.

D M

I have had two coaching sessions with a student that speaks Finnish. Other than that no.

Hova

About AT: Basically was planning to bluff some rivers after turn raise. However on blank river villain can easily end up overbluffing, since hes valuerange is super narrow and pool sucks at valuebetting.

Jan. 27, 2019 | 3:01 p.m.

Jan. 26, 2019 | 9:49 a.m.

gambler91

Im having trouble coming up with anything to share. Im just following my plan and trying to execute that as well as I can. Trying to keep playing, studying and other stuff in balance. And so far, I feel it’s going pretty nice. I have quite well-established playing and studying routines, what helps to free time for other activities. Also I have been able to add meditation to my evening pre game warm-up, which helps me tremendously to get into playing mood. I have had troubles with finding motivation to play on evenings and short meditation really helps with that. You really should try that you if you haven’t already. But in big picture nothing interesting really. Feels like I started to run a bit better, but longer perspective I have less it really matters. For me not knowing the results and knowledge that im not going to see them before 31.3 has really helped to shift my focus really away from day to day variance and mistakes.

I different node, I stumbled on this pretty interesting conversation w Nick Howard and some of hes potential student : link

For those who aren’t going to watch it, guy is talking about how he is unclear what to study and how in order to get the results he wants. This really resonated with me since a lot of stuff I hear from poker community is really in my opinion just feudal. This fixation to make the game as complex as possible because that’s what Piosolver does. Somehow some people think that if they just manage to balance these two cbet sizes they are doing to crush the field. I mean wtf. Seems like part of poker players don’t really understand where EV really comes from. Most of the EV (at least on games I play) comes from when people deviate massively from equilibrium. Of course, there are so many ways to deviate; overfolding, overcalling, overbluffing, defending only by calling etc etc. And whether people do that knowingly or not, it really doesn’t matter. What matters is that you are able to recognize those spots, and exploit them as much as possible.

And about sizes and complications: I ran two Piosims (BB vs BTN) with different settings ( first , second ):
One with 2 cbet sizes, 2 turn sizes and 3 river sizes for IP. Other one with locked cbet otf, one size ott and one otr. Turns out if you are able to master for sim with all its mixed strategies and nuances you are able to generate 4% more EV. That might sound a lot but on the other hand 96% of the EV comes from somewhere else than from different sizes. And you can just imagine how huge the first game tree is compared to second. Just pick A3 sheet of paper and pen and start drawing those two side by side and think which is more reasonable to even try to grasp.

Ok that’s enough for random rants. This nonsense that you have to be Piosolver in order to beat nl50 just makes me frustrated and sad at the same time.

Jan. 23, 2019 | 10:40 a.m.

Year has started pretty average. Have been playing somewhere around B to C-game and feels like im running pretty bad. But im really happy to my performance today. I slept pretty horribly last night and played really bad session in the morning. I really felt like i would call it for today, but i managed to get myself together and played somewhat ok evening session.

Im a bit tempted on trying to chance my playing rhythm. I usually play one session in the morning/midday and another in the evening. But i really feel that evening games are softer than midday games, so i would really want to put more volume in the evening. Problem is that im not used on playing long sessions (4hours+). Maybe i try it out and if it feels impossible i will chance back to old.

Jan. 7, 2019 | 9:12 p.m.

Not a bad goal for sure.. (:

Jan. 7, 2019 | 9:05 p.m.

Thanks guys!

Eldora Whole topic of online poker dying is interesting for sure. My personal view is that you can always get better and/or find softer games to play. I can only speak from my personal experience, but i think online poker is doing just fine. Still plenty of fish in pools and average regular is making a lot of mistakes (like me). Usually people that complain about the state of games are either fish or not winning players. Its just easier to complain the system or something than put in the work.

I thought about good ways to split my year. Instead of setting up goals on monthly basis, i decided to split year into four quarters. Idea behind that is to turn focus even more to long term, instead of short term. Im pretty sure many of you have felt need to bank a good month, or grind more so that you are able to get a winning month etc. I have done it, and thats the kind of thought process im trying to get away from.

So my goal for the Q1 (1.1-31.3) is to play 125k hands @ 200z. Also my goal is to only check results at the end of the quarter. Again the same thing, mind from short to long. Reason for so low volume goal is that im spending almost whole March in Thailand on a holiday, where im not going to play any poker. But before that its crucial to get back into good poker routines, good quality poker and effective studying.

Jan. 6, 2019 | 8:44 a.m.

Started a new blog for 2019

If interested, keep following that. If not, i dont blame you.

Jan. 3, 2019 | 2:30 p.m.

Post | Onkleb posted in Chatter: Goal for 2019: Be a balanced pokerpro

Hello Everyone.

I decided to start new blog for 2019, since its annoying to scroll trough long threads on RIO.

Some of you might know who i am, so feel free to skip this part. For others, i am Toni, Finnish poker player, playing 200z at pokerstars. I have played full time around two years (if i recall correctly), but have been playing poker since the good old WPT and poker boom times. Even though having played poker that long, i still have passion for the game. I notice it when i take longer breaks, since after the break im always very eager to get back and just play poker.

Results for the last 2 years

Last year was a big step forward for me. Not only moving up im limits, but overall i felt very proud what i was doing and how i did it. I was able to overcome obstacles that i thought were almost impossible for me, and just made a lot of progress overall. In poker the biggest jump was moving up from 100z to 200z and achieving descent winrate there. Moving up has been a big challenge for me in my past, so achieving that was huge for me mentally.

So, what to expect from this blog?

Same answer as last time, no idea. This blog is mainly just my random thoughts that i feel need to let out. So very messy, very little real content, just random button clicking (like my game). Somehow people have found it interesting (which i still wonder), so if its +EV for me and maybe +EV for you, why not.

Goals for 2019

Be a balanced pokerpro. What does that mean, im not even 100% sure myself. At least for me its ability to keep poker and all other areas of life somehow in order. Ability to get destroyed at tables and still spend a nice evening with girlfriend, friends or with family. Ability to put in the work on and off from poker tables, even though your mind wants you to drink beer and play video games. Ability to enjoy the benefits that come from being self-employed.

No something concrete:

  • 550k hands
  • Most of the volume @ 200z
  • Keep mind open for moving up and/or playing regular tables at other sites
  • Winrate goal 4-10bb/100 (around 95% chance w current winrate)
  • Monetary goal 44k-110k $ (same as above)

Thats enough to get things started. Good luck for poker year 2019!

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