I rechecked this in wizard. Solver even likes to bet much less here like block (which is 18% pot in my solution).
Makes sense somehow if we expect villain to call all Jx/Kx and simply every other underpair still cant call (theoretically).
June 6, 2023 | 12:59 p.m.
Nice analysis…go for it next time. But i dont think we should overbet here.
Still some AK in villains range that takes this line and that i dont expect to fold.
So i would polarize my sizing around 75%
This should still be enough to target the range you pointed out to fold.
June 6, 2023 | 4:39 a.m.
This is not a simple question at all and there is some different concepts to consider especially playing from the blinds.
So in general over all positions the betting frequency oop will drop down usually (positional disadvantage discourages thin valuebets).
So you are right in general that we bet less often and with a bigger sizing OTF.
This will be somewhat different OTT/OTR, but might be a different topic.
Frequency and sizing is usually dictated by rangeadvantge (frequency) and nutadvantage (sizing).
So SB vs BU is a bit special as we will play a kind of tight linear range vs a fairly whide BU-defends range.
So from a theorypoint we will be able to bet a lot of boards on a high frequency and small sizing.
However: the sizing you picked on this particular board is fine as BU should have more 7x/4x/56s/89s and maybe Jx as well that we lack off. So our rangeadvantage drops a bit and we will bet less often and a bigger sizing.
Last note on this: If we 3bet from the BB we usually 3B a much more polar range and thus our betting strategy will be often much more polar as well (ie lower frequency and bigger sizing).
June 3, 2023 | 6:51 a.m.
Tbh…cbetting most boards for 1/3 is a great exploit at lower stakes as basically every pool will be overfolding and underraising and i guess basically playing this strategy on every single board will be showing a profit.
On a theory basis there is some things to consider:
How good will villains range interact with the board (positions are fairly important for this). So how likely will villain hit a decent toppair+ or strong draw.
For your examples: on a board like 843 SB vs ep there is basically 0 2p and maybe only 88 for a set. If villain is not RFI 56s he will barely have anything on this board. So simply betting your whole range is awesome.
However: BvB this would be a whole different story.
A good example is a board like JTx SB vs BU. This is a board that i would usually not bet 100% for a small size (especially twotone) as villain will have basically all 2p/sets and tons of draws.
Which leads to my last tip: bet less and bigger (ie more polar) if you are oop.
This is esp. true for whide ranges…position is King in poker and often a decent chunk of our range has Problems realizing equity oop.
This is esp true if we face coldcallers pre
May 21, 2023 | 12:58 p.m.
Whats your thoughts on this line?
Preflop: 3b sizing looks a bit small to me, would rather choose 3x in position.
But i dont get behind your XR…
A high boards are somewhat locked down. So we dont really gain calls by weaker hands and i dont expect stronger hands to b/f either. So KJ and KT are basically the only hands that bet/call that we beat (and we block both).
Also: villains line looks decently strong: open MP, flat 3b, bet/call flop, jam river after XX turn.
Without further info on the player i highly doubt that XC river is a winning play….
May 18, 2023 | 5:30 a.m.
I guess we can go either way here OTF/OTT.
I guess im betting my whole range OTF for 1/3 due to the fact that this board neutralizes a decent chunk of villains range advantage: as you mentioned: we have an advantage in sets ands SD here....However: This is more of an exploit I guess as ppl do a poor job of protecting their checking range in this spot.
Theorywise this gets a lot closer I assume...
OTT however we need to be aware that 4bet and XC on this board looks somewhat strong (range checking as the pre flop 4better OTF makes sense).
So the equity of our hand drops kind of...BUT....I doubt that betting will be bad: How would you feel here with TT/QQ+/AKss/AQss/AJs?
These are mostly hands that are supposed to never fold theorywise (beside AK/AQ), but im pretty sure that we are able to fold out at least some of these combos (mostly AK/AQ) while we still have equity vs hands that call/shove here.
So checkback or bet/call might both be ok....But please don't Bet/fold here!
I also like the chosen sizing OTT...
April 27, 2023 | 8:53 a.m.
This is what wizard would suggest, but as most pools dont 4bet enough, i would especially be careful with KTs/KJs and this A4/A5/AQo region.
As SCs are only 3bet on w low frequency, i guess we can also call them pure, but might cut out JTs for dominating reasons as well.
April 23, 2023 | 7:11 a.m.
Im folding this pre tbh…
QJs suffers heavy domination problems in most positions and BU vs CO as well as so many AJ/KQ combos are part of a 4bet bluffing-range.
As played: im definetly not going for 3 streets.
Be aware that this board smashes your 3bet/call range and villain might even be checking range here.
So if we are going to bet, it needs to be super small as you did. So flop/turn is thin, but could be ok…
River jam looks way too thin to me….
April 23, 2023 | 5:25 a.m.
Looks fine to me tbh...SQ could be a touch bigger. But given the SPR there is not too much you can do wrong OTT (beside check fold).
I guess given the board we could still be betting a merged range for a smaller sizing. We could also still XC vs his big stab, but I doubt that it makes a huge difference in EV either way here...
April 19, 2023 | 6:29 p.m.
I would say that positions are a key factor here. SB vs UTG is a strong range and hero is basically at the bottom of his defends-range pre.
Also not too many single clubs in an UTG defends range, so im not sure if planning on bluffing 4 clubs is that great of a plan (not sure if average NL50 reg will recognize though).
So im letting this one go and would be more tempted to call if it is SB vs LP….
April 12, 2023 | 5:50 a.m.
Hi and welcome back to the tables!
Im not quite sure if i get what you are asking about.
It would be interesting to know which stakes you are playing, because overfolding vs agression will basically be the way to beat micros and lowstakes.
So it might be natural to have stretches where you will be folding a ton postflop and simply be correct about it.
In general we shouldnt rely too much on the output of solverwork for these stakes as well (as we dont pkay vs GTO-players.
If you are unsure about the handling of GTO+ it would be nice to have some more specific infos what you think you are doing wrong.
Feel free to dm me about it.
But to shake off the rust, i would advice you to watch a lot of play and explain or HH-review videos in here.
GTO+ also offers a play vs the solution mode, so you can drill spots intensively if you set it up.
And last but not least: post HH in our forums and a lot of competent fellows in here will help you to solve this specific puzzle.
April 3, 2023 | 3:35 p.m.
Could also check out the dynamic range viewer (off the tables) from zenith poker to check out several ranges for each positions vs different raise sizes.
Its designed for 6max, however, it costs around 40$/month afaik :/
But for lower stakes where sizings are all over the place, its definitively a powerful tool...
March 26, 2023 | 5:24 p.m.
Welcome back to the tables!
Making a step to RIO is probably a good starting point. I would recommend a essential subscription up in here and start watching videos on a daily bases for whatever kind of poker you like to improve on.
Might decide for a longer period if you want to focus on cash or tourney poker as there is soooooo much to learn these days.
But RIO has a huge library that you can binge throughout either way.
About your graph: the amount of hands is way to small to even grasp on your performance. Over 900-1.4k hands there is too much variance going on.
Take a closer look at stats after 50k hands maybe.
About your hand: if this is 100BB cashgame poker, i would build up a 3b or fold strategy for every position beside the BB.
The main reason is the high rake which makes nearly every hand wanting to take the pot down preflop rather than playing bigger pots (ie higher rake) postflop.
In this case you might 3b AJs pure preflop. We also avoid a lot of multiway pots like this more often that are complicated to navigate.
As played: i guess postflop is fine…we are on a heavy rangedisadvantage and so giving up river is fine (maybe folding turn already is even better; but close). Thats also the reason why we shouldnt raise this one OTF: its simply too weak vs an UTG range that opts to bet into several players.
Just keep posting hands here and you will get feedback from our nice community fairly quickly.
March 26, 2023 | 6:02 a.m.
Its hard to really narrow down a range that flats MP twice here pre.
So my brain instantly categorizes a fishy player (which might be true mostly but not always).
So I would add a decent chunk of randomness to his range and wouldn't give up flop already.
I guess the difference between small bet or XC is marginal, but XF looks too tight to me vs this player profile....
March 23, 2023 | 9:16 a.m.
This looks fine overall to me.
Could make an argument for betting turn slightly bigger (we bet a bit more polar here), but im sure sizings are fairly mixed anyways here.
The Q OTR hits a lot of villains turn bluffing range.
So a decent part of his range is now nutty (JT) or has decent SDV (QT/QJ).
So we are forced to XF more here.
check back flop and raise turn is under bluffed.
Potsizebets are also slightly under bluffed.
So XF river looks good to me.
March 23, 2023 | 9:13 a.m.
Im also in the camp folding to the raise. But I would also not be betting the flop. Over several players the equities start to even out a bit over all parties: ie: a hand like TPTK is much weaker than playing HU.
The rule of thumb: don't bloat a pot that you are going to loose more often (which is the logical consequence of MW-pots). So the threshold for valuebets will drop drastically and this hand class will be somewhat on the edge (probably a mix I guess).
For the most part raises are also much more polar (which usually means stronger) and so TPTK will have real trouble to defend properly.
So I would be checking my whole range in this spot as a simplification.
IMO this will simplify your life a whole lot...
March 19, 2023 | 6:58 a.m.
Its a meh spot, but im calling this for several reasons:
- UTG starts with a weird stack size pre, so probably a rec
- His line is not really consistent. So theory wise Villain should have a decently protected checking range OTF (OP/2p/sets/FD...) But most players do a poor job of constructing a range like that. Ie: Check back ranges from weaker players tend to be weaker because they mostly bet their strong hands/hands with high Equity (like FD) too much.
- Kind of the same of #2 applies to raising ranges OTT which is basically a coincidence.
- The price is fairly good.
- We block boats
So sure: Villain is repping a checked back FD or turned set (rivered quads) pretty good and I wouldn't be shocked to see a better hand on a decent frequency here, but given the price and the potential randomness of a red, im never folding here (this would be a complete different story vs a reg btw.)
March 8, 2023 | 7:18 a.m.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough: Wizard is raising all combos of AQo here either OTF or OTT beside the AcQx hands.
So these are the only combos that the solver gets to the river with and still calls it off...
However: There is something you need to be aware of when it comes to solver-solutions: In basically every spot solvers check the river with a missed NFD.
So theory wise blocking the NFD makes a combo a better call down than the other ones.
This will indeed be different in real life where players still tend to triple off strong FD often in most pools.
But even if we would arrive in your spot with more combos, im sure wizard will prefer hero calling the river with the Ac
March 5, 2023 | 11:46 a.m.
So i ran this spot through wizard. The GTO solution likes raising flop or turn if we dont hold the Ac ourselves.
Im not entirely sure if this is useful at 5nl tbh:
I expect SB still to be 3bet too low: so villain has a stronger range.
But also: i expect most pools to cbet way too much at least OTF while they might cbet turn too low (which is logical as they arrive here with too weak of a range).
So maybe raising flop is cool, turn maybe not.
However: if we get to the river AcQx is always calling off…
March 1, 2023 | 2:07 p.m.
This is a tough one with 2c…The Qc in this case doesnt block flushes much as all FD containing a Q (and that we beat) wont bet the turn for this sizing i guess: KsQs could be the only combo that we block and that might bet the turn though.
Theorywise i still expect this to be call, but i could imagine that overfolding this spot at 5nl is the way to go…close either way
March 1, 2023 | 1:02 p.m.
This changes things quite a bit: Don't forget that the amount of AK-combos (16) is a huge portion of the range I described.
So if it is possible that Ak triples off as a bluff and villain lacks of JTs/QTs (or the potential TT sometimes), this becomes much more of a call....
March 1, 2023 | 11:22 a.m.
This is the classic example of an massive range disadvantage and what it means for our decisions.
Villain should theory wise raise a linear range here Preflop that will retain its range- and nutsadvantage through the whole runout:
Villain has pure: JJ-AA/Ak/QJs (I don't expect TT to barrel turn usually) while we lack most of these pure .
So arriving at the river (which is played fine imo) we are basically crushed by villains range by default.
So I guess we will have to fold even if we face a villain that is able to find bluffs here. Sure: We beat some AcXc combos (which btw. shouldn't be bluffed in theory I guess) and from time to time villain might barrel off some K8s/KTs or so.
But the reality is: We are beat too often here to call....
March 1, 2023 | 9:23 a.m.
So I ran this spot in Wizard for you and the anwser is quite simple. If we decide to utilize on our flush blocker, we simply jam every river that is an overcard and start mixing give ups 50/50 if the board pairs.
So to simplify this: jam it and hope for the best all the time at nl10....
Feb. 27, 2023 | 3:28 a.m.
Looks like you overbluff easily here. You also need to take positions way more into account imo. Villain has already a really strong range calling pre.
So my 2 cents:
Flop is a low frequency cbet with the Qc and sizing looks good.
Turn is a good card for the blocking properties of your concrete hand and so betting is fine.
But dont fall into the trap to rely on an A river here. Indeed its a bad card for you:
If villain is somehow floating the turn it will be the Ac.
We also dont really have Ax combos that go for 3 streets of value here (beside the NF).
So the blocking effects of your hand get indeed devalued by the A otr…but as played: im still going for it i guess… but i expect to get called more often now…