What about developing a calling range in this spot? Yes we do leave ourselves open to being squeezed but in this position we should naturally have a very wide calling range against the blinds anyway. Even if you tighten up your calling range your still going to be way ahead of CO limping range as well as say SB's squeezing range if they tend to aggression and squeeze too wide.
Jan. 11, 2019 | 9:24 p.m.
Hey Jeff I think you made a good fold here but what was your reason for raising to 3bb preflop? Do you have a specific plan for your post flop play against 30-40bb short stacks? Do you have history with this player type at your site?
Jan. 10, 2019 | 11 p.m.
Hello, I think you can comfortably check this one back unless you have a specific read on villain. I don't see them getting to the river on this board with many combos that are going to call and that you beat. Maybe some Axc but there aren't going to be many combos that are going to be calling your turn bet that can call 3 betting streets from you. A9c makes the most sense to call but that's about it.
Just my opinion. Happy New Year.
Dec. 31, 2018 | 8:42 p.m.
Not sure where to put this thread so I thought why not here. Does anyone have any history with Snowie? I would love to hear your thoughts if you do. I'm looking to buy it and am trying out the 10 day trial right now. The mobile AI seems okay but has given me some not great advice in a few spots so I'm a little skeptical about it now. I also tried sending them an email a while back to check on how good their support is, no one replied : /
Not a great start from a consumer's prospective...
Dec. 28, 2018 | 5:30 p.m.
Hello all this happened today in my practice session and thought I’d bring it to the forum to see what your thoughts are. I don’t have a great read on these guys but button was what I’d say a decent player but not great while bb was over aggressive and spazzy.
Button opens and I call since I anticipated bb was going to squeeze wide so I’m pretty comfortable with my decision to call instead of raise button’s open. As expected bb squeezes but then button calls.... thoughts?
I decide to call and see the flop. Flop comes 8TKr, I check bb insta jams and then button shoves... thoughts again?
June 7, 2018 | 9:31 p.m.
Wow this villain is sticky eh? Better make a note about that.
A couple things to mention would be if villain bets into you after you raise on the flop like this, Gii on the turn. You have a lot of equity here and are going to be ahead far more often than not. This guy looks like he’s willing to play for stacks with top pair so let him have his way when you have the best of it.
Another option here would be to call the flop instead of raising since the board isn’t too scary. The river sucks but I don’t see villain w/spade spade too often here. I would say this should be a call but I haven’t done the math. I’d say villian played this hand more like a sticky AJ.
June 7, 2018 | 6:36 p.m.
I’m not a huge fan of your check raise on the flop when you’re drawing to the A high flush. Imo it’s going to be pretty easy to get stacks in by the river in a 3bet pot anyway unless you’re playing deep? I don’t see your starting stack size so maybe that’s the case?
Villains raise size looks suspect as well. Since it’s so small I’m reading a draw that can include the nuts which puts you in an ugly spot when any mid diamond drops or you miss the turn and get jammed on. Both scenarios force you to make a tough decision w/A high draw. IMO against an active aggressive player a check call on the flop would put you in a better position on the turn. Interesting hand, tough board.
June 5, 2018 | 5:23 p.m.
I think you played this well. Make a note on villain based on the hand and what they’re willing to call with.
Remember that you’re at a level where people are just learning how to play so they’re going to be calling with hands that aren’t profitable long term post flop.
Chalk it up to bingo and keep practicing. If I were to change anything I might suggest a smaller turn bet to keep more drawing hands and Ax hands in to see the river but the sizing you used is fine too.
May 14, 2018 | 5:51 p.m.
Wow this sure feels like 8’s to me but they could also be shoving a lot of draws here too. 76 is the only other hand that makes a bit of sense but are they calling your 3bet pre with 76? Or 45?
How long had you been at the table? How many hands had you 3bet prior and how wide was your range? I think asking yourself those questions may help you to make a decision about how value heavy villain will be in this spot.
May 11, 2018 | 2:58 p.m.
When betting the river we have to think about what we are repping with this bet size. On this board texture what value hands bet this size and hope to get calls? Since we’re always trying to make villain indifferent to calling you may want to review the sizing you have used here.
Imo a better line would be to x/c, x/r, and then chose your bet sizing on the river. That way we can implement our blockers a bit more effectively.
May 9, 2018 | 5 p.m.
One of the great things about GTO is that we have a really clear decision point when villain is polarized and really tough decisions to make when we have no incentive to either call or fold. When someone is not playing close to theoretically correct they tend to polarize far too early, which is the case in the hand.
Imo this is a snap fold with villains stats. Even with so few hands.
May 9, 2018 | 4:04 p.m.
Imo you’re going to be mixing 1/4 and a check on the flop so turn play is going to be different depending on your flop action.
Let’s say you bet 1/4psb on Jd9d5s, villain calls and 3c come on the turn. Janda would recommend a psb on this turn card with part of your range to deny equity on villian’s straight draws and flush draws but depending on what you’re holding this would also be 1/2 psb since we want villain to call with their strong but non-nutted drawing hands. That way they will be put in a difficult situation on many river cards when we bet again since they will have no incentive either way to call or fold to our river bet.
May 4, 2018 | 7:09 p.m.
A really good book to start with is Poker for Dummies. It’s a terrible name and I’m not trying to be insulting but it’s actually a really good book for a complete beginner to start to understand basic concepts of the game. I’m not sure if I’m supposed share on here or not but I have a PDF of this book. PM me if you want it.
May 4, 2018 | 3 a.m.
Good morning. This is a general question about strat vs. a specific hand. Perhaps someone here who has done the maths to solve for their own game would be kind enough to enlighten me.
I find I have a difficult time with players who sit directly to my left or 1 space over and call their entire range which is incredibly wide. They play for luck and not for skill, calling 3bets with Q5s and rivering with a flush when what a decent players 3bet calling range “should” be is impossible to have. Here I’m quoting a direct example.
I’m trying to devolop a strat against these guys and not just leave the table, since I’d rather learn a valuable skill than run away.
I’ve thought about increasing my opening size in these specific situations and increase my opening range as well, playing more of a HU hand range however with removal I’m not sure if this would be correct. And then what to do about 3betting ranges? Do we have more incentive to raise wider when villain is calling everything anyway or should we instead call with our premium hands and have no 3betting range at all?
If anyone has some insight or may have done the maths and is willing to share I’d be very appreciative.
Thanks in advance.
April 12, 2018 | 3:40 p.m.
FWIW Imo this isn’t a great hand to bluff with in the first place but to answer your original question there are two reasons why we should be betting. I’m paraphrasing Janda but the reason why we bet is to build the pot when we have the nuts or to deny equity when we don’t. What has been said above I agree with and to add to their comments we’re also trying to get it in by the river each and every hand with no insentive for villain to either call or fold. Hopefully that helps.
Feb. 1, 2018 | 10:21 p.m.
The way this board ran out I doubt you’re getting any more callers when you raise vs. shove. Raising can also put you in a tough spot since villain can have a lot of KsX here so when we raise and they shove we have to dump our best hand. Shoving looks “fishy” and you’ll get more callers imo. People have a hell of a time getting rid of sets so I don’t think he had one. Probably had a Q in hand or something.
Jan. 26, 2018 | 3:34 p.m.
At your level how often does SB raise against a button open, and if instead you call from SB how often does BB squeeze? It’s very possible that BU is 4betting wide knowing SB will fold often to 4bets because of the player pool. Either way I’m calling AQo to a small 4bet. You’ve got great blockers and AQo is a very playable hand.
Jan. 25, 2018 | 10:32 p.m.
The turn raise is a really weird line, they’ve polarized too early and for no reason imo. I’m folding to river shove but wouldn’t be happy very about it. However if they take this line often then I’m looking them up wider.
Jan. 25, 2018 | 10 p.m.
How balanced is the player pool when betting small on this run out? I’m leaning towards a call here since we block 8’s and I could see a lot of bluffs that play the hand the same way. The more I look at it I don’t think I could fold.
Jan. 25, 2018 | 9:52 p.m.
A couple books to read are:
Applications of no limit hold em
No limit hold em for advanced players
Both were written by Matthew Janda and have excellent information. I recommend reading applications first although it’s a more challenging read.
I use a white board and scribble down a challenging hand right after its played. I find that the easiest way to work on a specific problem.
Another thing that I do is think of a specific problem I would like a solution for while I’m falling asleep. By morning a high percentage of the time I have a clear solution based on my current understanding of the game. Sounds a little weird but it works great!
Dial down the aggression by 70%. We’ve all been told the same thing when we start, be TAG, but that has created some massive leaks because players are thinking they should default to aggression when they don’t know wtf they’re doing. If you get stuck, fold and go to the white board. Find the solution instead of compounding a really bad habit by ingraining it deeper into your playing style.
I’m not sure what stakes you’re playing but if you’re in the 2nl-25nl level assume that you’re going to lose your bankroll. You’re playing against others who don’t know how to play and have no very little understanding of higher level concepts. Think of it as your university education, you’re paying to learn and apply your knowledge. Practice these concepts until you “know” it was the right decision and forget about how many times some jack donkey calls you with garbage and takes the pot, they’re just learning too.
Be patient with yourself. Take small steps and realize you’re going to have a lot of small steps backwards. I wouldn’t recommend spending any money on the solvers yet. If you’re still playing the micros there’s no reason to use one. Learn the more advanced concepts and understand the basics before you spend more of your hard earned money. Solvers don’t give solutions for skipping steps.
Lastly, be humble. You’re never as good as you think you are but you can always be better if you allow yourself the chance to improve.
Jan. 25, 2018 | 7:50 p.m.
That is a very good question. It looks right? In an unraised pot we want to bet this flop for a large size with range so I would say this is correct but I don’t have the programs to confirm. I’d love to hear from someone who can run the solvers.
Oct. 7, 2017 | 12:39 a.m.
Villain could be playing AA KK AQ QJ (maybe?)The same way since the board is pretty dry and you don’t have many 6’s in your range either so they may not have a lot of bluffs but they may have hands with less robust equity than yours.
As for the comment on your low pocket pairs, I can’t disagree with you since I don’t know what you’re using as your metrics. I was making the comment based on a very small sample of what hands your calling with. I can only make assumptions on the rest of your 3bet calling range based on the hands you’ve posted here.
Sorry if that’s not 100% clear. I’m fighting a head cold.
Oct. 3, 2017 | 6:50 p.m.
Depends on villain and how well they can read your raising range. UTG can have some sets, some over pairs or maybe even AT. If his read on you is your only 3 betting over pairs with a few hands with the potential robust river equity then I’d jam it in here to. Considering you have all J as outs as well I think this is a call. Again, villain dependant though.