Hey guys, I ended up grabbing the lab. The core section looks pretty meh and I wish they had more examples and more in depth explanations since it's a bunch of stuff I know already. But beyond core looks pretty good.
What I'm wondering, does Lab get updated often enough to stay current? And is there anything in Upswing Lab that can't be found in their free articles?
I got kind of disappointed when the core bet size module just said to choose 75% pot for all 3 streets in SRP's, which is way more basic then what I've learned from free Upswing articles. I hope beyond core rebuilds on that, explains why 75% isn't good everywhere, and re-explains why to use different bet sizes.
Also, where can I access their archived stuff like the flush draw rules?
April 25, 2020 | 6:24 p.m.
Hi, I completely agree. I got the impression that the creators of pluribus are getting a disproportionate amount of credit for something the snowie guys have already achieved years earlier, or so the PDF says. I'm posting this because it seems unfair that they should steal the spotlight like that.
Here's a working link
I'm curious to hear people's opinions on whether the two AI's are on par with each other, or if pluribus is superior as it's creators seem to imply.
April 20, 2020 | 6:09 p.m.
Thanks for the in depth explanation, I really appreciate this :)
Here are some upswing articles ranging from simple to advanced:
If stuff like this comes in organized module format then I'm sold :)
Edit: If the articles cover all the paid material in the same detail then I'll settle for articles! :p
One thing I really didn't like from upswing is their "20 rules to _" pdf's, I found these to formulaic without much of the kind of logical explanations I love from upswing's articles. I hope upswing has logical explanations for various strategic lines like the articles do?
April 20, 2020 | 5:55 p.m.
Thanks guys! :)
April 20, 2020 | 5:50 p.m.
Thanks so much, this is super helpful :)
Core basically sounds kind of useless? Does beyond core follow the same organized approach as core? And also, is the content as good as their free articles (explained super logically with reasons behind everything)
April 19, 2020 | 3:33 p.m.
I found this pdf from the PokerSnowie people discrediting a lot of the claims made by the creators of Pluribus. Mainly that Pluribus the first bot to win vs. several professionals / do well in multiway pots.
Worthwhile read. Wondering what your thoughts are? Did you guys know this?
April 18, 2020 | 1:22 p.m.
Tried Poker Genius, the AI advisor suggested open limping QJo UTG... Some of the AI profiles always open limp.
In summary the AI is outdated.
Still wondering how Advanced Poker Training stacks up vs. online micros though.
April 18, 2020 | 12:24 p.m.
Hi guys, I was wondering if Snowie's strategy is still relevant today or is it becoming outdated? When was the last time it's strategy got an update?
It seems a bit too tight in some spots?
I'm playing NL2 - NL10
Was also wondering if anyone has tried any of these AI training tools:
http://www.acepokercoach.com/ (are these the same guys who made DriveHud?)
https://www.advancedpokertraining.com/ (Tried this and it was quite fun, but I'm wondering how well it represents today's micro players)
https://www.poker-genius.com/ (this one seems interesting since you can program your own AI)
April 18, 2020 | 10:07 a.m.
Hi guys, does anybody here subscribe to Upswing? There is a deal right now that cuts the first month's price in half, I never felt like $100 for the first month was worth it, but $50 is looking pretty attractive.
I have FTGU and Essential on here, but I find the lack of structure a bit difficult, and the fact that everything is in video format makes it hard to adhere to with a busy schedule.
Is upswing still worth it or is it becoming outdated? Can I just get all the same info from their articles and youtube channel? I'm playing NL2 - NL10
April 18, 2020 | 9:17 a.m.
I was just about to post this exact question and found your post.
Does anybody know if Snowie Preflop Advisor factors in Rake? What about Pluribus?
April 18, 2020 | 8:51 a.m.
Hi guys, I did an upswing quiz and I'm wondering if one of they suggest taking is correct.
Q10) You're playing $2/$5 live with $500 stacks. Middle position (decent regular) raises to $20 and you're on the button with J♠️ T♠️.
A: The correct answer is to 3-bet. The best sizing is somewhere between $60 and $80. This hand is a good candidate for a 3-bet bluff because it blocks strong hands such as AJs, ATs, KJs, KTs, JJ and TT.
If one (or both) of the players in the blinds is a very weak player who will make many mistakes preflop and postflop, calling becomes a more reasonable option in order to draw them into the pot.
My line here would be to call, and instead make 3-bet bluffs with borderline unplayable hands such as (67s - 43s & Low suited aces).Pokersnowie agrees this is a call, and 3-bets low suited aces as bluffs instead.
What are your thoughts on 3-betting this hand? Is it because MP raised (strong range)? If so why does Snowie prefer to call?
This is the quiz if anybody wants it https://upswingpoker.com/instagram-poker-quiz/?infcontactkey=f70309ecec98584f5c10990d0d1a4f5309c74070ac2bf3cfa7869e3cfd4ff832
April 18, 2020 | 8:20 a.m.
Good call, thanks :) 18k is pretty small I agree
April 8, 2020 | 2:38 p.m.
Thanks for explaining, this is some really eye opening info :)
April 8, 2020 | 2:37 p.m.
Recently played at a 6max table where I was the only non-nit (except for one limper fish). I started widening my steal range a bit and decrease my open raise size. Now I'm trying to figure out just how much I should widen my range.
Is there a preflop tool I can use (preferably free but paid is fine), or some kind of method I can use with pen/paper, to determine what the optimal opening range is vs. tight stats? These guys had stats like 12/9 and 10/4 with very high fold to steals.
April 8, 2020 | 2:26 p.m.
Does preflop guru allow entering population frequencies and rake and building ranges from that?
April 3, 2020 | 5:46 p.m.
Are these RFI ranges to loose for NL2 at 5% rake? What raise size would you ideally use with these? Found these online, someone said they are loosely based on upswing ranges?
First image is always open, 2nd image is raise or fold
Black - EP
Green - MP
Mustard - CO
Orange - Button
Pink - SB
Also can anybody recommend me some kind of tool to construct preflop ranges taking rake and population 3bet% and fold frequency into consideration?
April 3, 2020 | 5:02 p.m.
I'm looking for some examples of what balanced aggression stats might look like, namely aggression frequency/percent, Cbet frequencies for all 3 streets, river bet / aggression frequencies, etc. (in both regular and 3bet pots)
This is something I want to know to see if villains underbluff or overbluff rivers to help me decide what hands to to use as bluff catchers.
I play micro stakes hence the population under-bluffs, but want to be able to defend appropriately against the occasional balanced or overbluffing player since river decisions cost so much.
Any tips are greatly appreciated, thanks :)