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Interestingly when i have looked at a solver in these kind of spots it prefers continuing with non diamond hands. I guess the reasoning is that with a diamond in your hand you are reducing the likelihood of them having a flush draw which is the kind of semibluff you hope they are making here and want to continue against

In this exact spot im probably continuing. There are too many draws, i just think it is too nitty to fold flop here

Thanks. I generally elect not to have a raising range IP, but actually i think i need to introduce one to take my game further.

I ran this through a solver. It has a mix of calls and raises on the flop close to 50-50. It also elected to raise all in OTR. I run into the nuts here, but SB could also have a lot of lower flushes that I maybe wouldn't have got value from raising so small.

This is all helpful for me to realise i haven't butchered this hand. I am running so bad at the moment, constantly running into better hands and wondering whether i need to be folding these spots, but it seems this wasn't a spot to fold

Very interesting. The Upswing standard preflop charts also have J9o as a flat in the BB v BTN so I don't think that can be discredited.

The only thing pushing me to a call was the busted spade draw but even then a lot of those are likely to be one pair hands villain probably checks down

Thanks. Yes, plenty to learn from this and i think you are absolutely on point. I realised that villain's range was uncapped, and that is essentially why i felt i needed to fold turn. I stabbed cos i didnt think i had any SDV and should have some fold equity, but in retrospect i should've checked back to realise my equity rather than risking getting blown off my equity with my non-nutted range

Thanks. Very interesting. Definitely seems i should have checked it back rather than try to extract some fold equity

Why do you say that? Are you not concerned by the fact that villain could have a KdXd hand or a set that makes a boat on a 2d or 3d? Also, if the river bricks, is this hand a good bluffing candidate?

Thanks. If not this hand, what diamond draws would you bet? I suppose anything with the Kd would be preferable to avoid having to fold to a check raise like this

Thanks. Why do you say it would not make sense to be raising merged on a K high flop against HJ?

Thanks. This is a really useful comment. I hadn't even considered that I was blocking 56 and AK. I need to start working overbets into my game

Thanks. This is really useful. I hadn't considered shoving turn, but in hindsight it does look like the right play given the range/combo stuff you have posted

Thanks. This all makes perfect sense. In the moment i was extremely worried and maybe not thinking clearly enough about the full range etc.

RaoulFlush i am looking at getting gto+ too and would be interested in this. Could you post a thread if you do set something like this up?

Mudkip sorry, my mistake, was misreading the chart. They also have it as a fold

Thanks, interesting points. I've been using the Upswing charts and they have A8s as a defend UTG against a CO 3bet. But I can see the logic to folding

Thanks. Why specifically would you fold this pre? Is it because I am 3 betting MP and then getting cold 4bet?

How about if BB folded and MP 4 bet?

Thanks. Yes, I think 3 betting this loose was probably a result of my initial running bad, and then contributing to it by putting myself in a spot i wasnt comfortable with. This is why i am now reviewing these spots, to see how i contributed to my own downfall. I certainly need to work on my understanding of how ranges hit positions, and how to size my bets

lIlCitanul nice video. I use equilab rather than flopzilla, but have been toying with getting gto+ too. What put me off is people saying it is like memorsising an answer rather than teaching you the logic, so perhaps i am best focused on theory lessons first. what do you think?

interesting that you say 18BI is average. it is 6x worse than what ive had previously and making me question my game!

this is a good idea. i may record myself playing sessions and talking - it might help me to be more accountable with some of my decisions

Thanks. I agree i need to spend some time on theory for a while before going to play, I feel like I've lost my way a little bit and need to reestablish some good fundamentals