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Dec. 19, 2021 | 2:49 a.m.

yeah makes sense. maybe a bit fancy floating twice here just so i can have a bluff haha. thanks

Dec. 22, 2020 | 4:09 a.m.

5 handed 100nl, all "regs", 100-230 bb stacks

SB 105bb Ad7c
BB 230 eff 35,20,10 around 40-50% cbet

fold, fold, fold, Hero raise 3x, BB flat.

flop - 2dJc4d (6bb)

Hero check, BB bet 3bb, Hero call.

Turn - 3c (12bb)

Hero check, BB bet 6bb, Hero call.

River Jd (24)

Hero check, BB bet 12bb, Hero x/r 36bb.

Not sure about this. im checking a lot here OOP on the flop though so i can have flushes and some traps..

Dec. 21, 2020 | 1:40 a.m.

need your 4 Digit tag apparently :)

Dec. 17, 2020 | 3:30 a.m.

$50 Freezeout

UTG 19900 (reg)
UTG 1 25096
MP 19975
LJ 31988 (fish)
HJ 18877 (fish)
CO 15684 (78.4 BB) with QQ
BTN 20644
SB 16262
BB 10730

early stages


UTG makes it 600, fold, fold, fold, LJ call, HJ call, Hero makes it 3000, fold, fold, fold, UTG 4 bet to 8600, fold, fold, Hero Jam.

As far as i see it i can jam or fold. if it wasn't multi way and the sizing's were smaller, i would have flat called the 4bet and played IP. really unsure here. jamming for around the size of the pot.

Dec. 13, 2020 | 9:24 a.m.

Dec. 9, 2020 | 1:51 p.m.

never mind the 4 bet size is fine. but betting small is still what i think you should have done

Dec. 9, 2020 | 1:45 p.m.

im new here, kinda anyways. but i think you can cold 4 bet smaller. maybe like 9-9.5k and bet this flop for smaller and then fold to a jam. imo i think you are making mp's life really easy post flop. 60bb is a bit much to jam i think. your cold 4bet range should have some Ax that you can bet call it off with. please tell my if this isn't how things are done here but haha.

Dec. 9, 2020 | 1:44 p.m.

BB 200+bb (29 vpip, 9 pfr, 3 three bet)
SB 150bb+ (hero) 5s5h
LJ 75bb+ (might be a reg or there about's)

early-mid stages

fold, fold, fold, LJ raise 2.2x, fold, fold, fold, Hero call, BB makes it 6.6x, LJ call, Hero call.

Flop is AdKc5d (19.8 bb)

Hero check, BB bet 10bb, LJ fold and hero calls.

Turn 8s (39.8 bb)

hero check, BB bet 20bb, hero call.

River 4h (80bb)

hero check, bb bet 40b, Hero jam 105.

either calling or folding flop and never raising was my plan with my range, raising here makes no sense to me. so on the turn brick i continue this.

on the river i think i have to jam for value but it might even be thin.

should i use a hand like K10s as a bluff or maybe. not sure don't see me having tons of fold equity here though.

Dec. 9, 2020 | 1:35 p.m.

it often seem awkward to 3bet here pots get so big. are you playing 100bb? or deeper. if BB is passive and you think you can play well post flop vs the opener etc, maybe flatting gets a bit better imo. fold equity pre flop in live games isn't that good a lot of the time haha... not when they have decided to put in a big raise.

July 20, 2020 | 4:05 a.m.

Yeah i had the same thoughts. i will have a go at working it out.

July 20, 2020 | 3:56 a.m.

might go x/x often also against a good opponent ?

July 18, 2020 | 6:43 a.m.

i hope you don't mind me leaving this here, i was going to make a post but i think it will fit in well. i was going over a range for 4s 5s 6c being the OOP UTG v MP flat call. and i thought this looks like a good spot to check at a very high freq, if not always in theory and have a lot of x/r and x/c. A fair chunk of our range has missed this board, but some has hit very hard.. i can see some hands here that want to bet as well so i am not so sure.

July 18, 2020 | 6:40 a.m.

just as something interesting. i ran a basic sim for this. and OOP can lead this card a fair bit, and overbetting a high freq when they do on this run out. only thing is i should have bet bigger on the flop, i added like 1/3 2/3 and pot and 2/3 it really likes. although OOP is supposed to check raise a crazy amount so maybe in practice it's not so bad to just bet small.

July 18, 2020 | 6:25 a.m.

$10 Deepstack, very early stages. no HUD. 7 handed.

everyone around the 15-20k mark pre flop

about 19k eff pre flop with UTG

60/120 (105 in antes)

UTG raise 3x, folds to Hero 3 bet to 9.1x from CO with QsQd, folds to UTG who calls.

flop - 4c Jd 10d ( 2,513)

Hero bet 829, UTG call.

Turn - Kd (4,171)

UTG check, hero check.

River- Qh

UTG rips 17,772 into 4,171, and hero folds.

My thoughts here i am unsure what size is best here on the flop with my range or hand. turn is not bad but we are too deep to go putting in a heap of chips. and the river is an annoying fold?

July 15, 2020 | 9:48 p.m.

Yeah so i actually agree with both of you. i tanked on the river. i actually don't expect to see a bluff here very often but i thought it was too nitty to fold.

July 15, 2020 | 11:18 a.m.

Agreed with that. 2/3+ OTT. and hard to fold here OTR, id be check calling probably.

July 11, 2020 | 5:28 a.m.

deep on a "20c 20c" table, no rake.

Hero 1500bb+
CO 150bb+ (nitty fish)
BTN 400bb+ (half decent fish)
SB 1500+ (tight ex reg, has hero covered)
BB 1500+ (tightish, newish player)

Hero open 5x A8dd, everyone calls.

Flop AsAc10c ($5)

BB check, Hero bet 40-50%, co fold, BTN call, SB call, BB fold.

Turn 5h

SB checks hero bet $10 like %60 pot, BTN folds and SB check raises to $40, Hero calls.

River Js

SB bets %40 or %50 pot, Hero call.

July 11, 2020 | 5:25 a.m.

i am not %100 sure about opening size. i played with ICMizer and it makes a fair bit of the prize pool ev or whatever at equilibrium but yeah. interesting points though,so they called a tiny bit looser than that range you gave. i agree with 2.8x sizing being bad i think maybe it wasn't the usual sizing but i am not sure. its one of the apps so i can't really go back through and see, i don't think so anyway. Also don't have a HUD just overall mtt stats from "vip card". He was a reg of some sort. make this profitable ?

July 2, 2020 | 2:10 p.m.

12 left out of 182 players. steady payouts 20 got paid, but we are 3rd in chips facing a 2.8x open from an agro CO*, seemingly capable chip leader playing like 27/19/9 or something.

we are 20.5bb deep in the BB with 88 an d CO* raises 2.8x, SB and BTN folds and we rip it?

July 1, 2020 | 7:29 a.m.

80 eff in the early stages of a deepstackish $75, 1x re buy 1x add on. some kind of ant %10 i think

4x iso Q9dd EP 9 handed, get limp called from UTG and by like HJ (50+ VPIP)

Flop - Ah10dJh

we bet about 30%, get called from EP and HJ folds.

turn 10x we get lead into for half pot and make the call.

River is a low heart and EP bets 1/3 pot, we jam for the 3x the bet, so about the original size of the pot OTR

June 28, 2020 | 10:41 a.m.

i don't have an actual hand history to copy, they aren't available on this site.

200/400 no ante, $25 turbo blind structure with 10 minute levels, we are start of 4th level. 30 odd players currently.

70-75 ish eff with UTG, MP has us both covered.

UTG +1 is like 30% VPIP, 7% PFR and 1-2% 3 bet, MP tagged mas maniac.

UTG+1 raise 1600, MP call, folds to hero in the SB who flats with JJ (no FD/BDFD blockers.)

flop is like 10s 8c 2c (pot 5k)

we check, UTG bets POT, MP folds and we JAM 5.2x the bet size.

i guess my other options are 3 bet pre and... fold to 4bet. or check call down if it bricks. suppose it goes in OTT a fair amount of the time.
i also don't have any notes on this player, but i think i may like check call down.

June 18, 2020 | 10:28 a.m.

Post | fizzr posted in MTT: ICMIZER - confused?

so this has come up a few times... but say UTG has a %5 opening range and BB has a %19 re jam range... why do when i add in a flat call from a big stack (maybe just in general) does it widen up all the ranges, even the opening range of UTG? thanks

June 16, 2020 | 10:40 a.m.

i don't know the answer. But imo, i don't think never bluffing is the way to go vs the average low stakes player, but under bluffing from a gto perspective might be alright in a lot of lines vs a lot of players. There are probably spots to over bluff as well. I am the process of working out how to use PT4 properly to study my player pool to work out some of these things. There are for sure players you should bluff very infrequently and just go for value if they wont fold.

June 15, 2020 | 1:25 a.m.

so like %90-120 pot and jamming (or checking) river? i am probably checking some of those hands here so it's interesting from that perspective as well. 2nd time somebody has told me in a spot like this, where Villain has deviated and i should go really polar. hopefully i start picking up on it haha. i need to utilize my solver more.

June 8, 2020 | 10:41 a.m.

can have some strong hand's here. no spades. seems like a good candidate for this line sometimes ?

May 31, 2020 | 11:37 p.m.

yeah i am sure a x/r crossed my mind here, but like you said vs the big size it is probably better to play this way.

May 31, 2020 | 9:40 p.m.

i expect the Q to not be good very often and yeah, its not a great situation after the check raise. MW is very hard to play i agree. i think it was like 97cc for UTG and maybe a set for the other player.

May 29, 2020 | 8:53 p.m.

Not sure how else i can really play this hand so multi way and getting decent odds to call. OTF really don't like the check and call two raise's line though.

May 25, 2020 | 6:28 p.m.

i can't remember much about the player. do you think the $11 pool is bluffing much in spots like these? i am not great at these lower SPR spots but thank you.

May 21, 2020 | 8:44 a.m.

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