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Chris Atkins

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it often seem awkward to 3bet here pots get so big. are you playing 100bb? or deeper. if BB is passive and you think you can play well post flop vs the opener etc, maybe flatting gets a bit better imo. fold equity pre flop in live games isn't that good a lot of the time haha... not when they have decided to put in a big raise.

July 20, 2020 | 4:05 a.m.

Yeah i had the same thoughts. i will have a go at working it out.

July 20, 2020 | 3:56 a.m.

might go x/x often also against a good opponent ?

July 18, 2020 | 6:43 a.m.

i hope you don't mind me leaving this here, i was going to make a post but i think it will fit in well. i was going over a range for 4s 5s 6c being the OOP UTG v MP flat call. and i thought this looks like a good spot to check at a very high freq, if not always in theory and have a lot of x/r and x/c. A fair chunk of our range has missed this board, but some has hit very hard.. i can see some hands here that want to bet as well so i am not so sure.

July 18, 2020 | 6:40 a.m.

just as something interesting. i ran a basic sim for this. and OOP can lead this card a fair bit, and overbetting a high freq when they do on this run out. only thing is i should have bet bigger on the flop, i added like 1/3 2/3 and pot and 2/3 it really likes. although OOP is supposed to check raise a crazy amount so maybe in practice it's not so bad to just bet small.

July 18, 2020 | 6:25 a.m.

$10 Deepstack, very early stages. no HUD. 7 handed.

everyone around the 15-20k mark pre flop

about 19k eff pre flop with UTG

60/120 (105 in antes)

UTG raise 3x, folds to Hero 3 bet to 9.1x from CO with QsQd, folds to UTG who calls.

flop - 4c Jd 10d ( 2,513)

Hero bet 829, UTG call.

Turn - Kd (4,171)

UTG check, hero check.

River- Qh

UTG rips 17,772 into 4,171, and hero folds.

My thoughts here i am unsure what size is best here on the flop with my range or hand. turn is not bad but we are too deep to go putting in a heap of chips. and the river is an annoying fold?

July 15, 2020 | 9:48 p.m.

Yeah so i actually agree with both of you. i tanked on the river. i actually don't expect to see a bluff here very often but i thought it was too nitty to fold.

July 15, 2020 | 11:18 a.m.

Agreed with that. 2/3+ OTT. and hard to fold here OTR, id be check calling probably.

July 11, 2020 | 5:28 a.m.

deep on a "20c 20c" table, no rake.

Hero 1500bb+
CO 150bb+ (nitty fish)
BTN 400bb+ (half decent fish)
SB 1500+ (tight ex reg, has hero covered)
BB 1500+ (tightish, newish player)

Hero open 5x A8dd, everyone calls.

Flop AsAc10c ($5)

BB check, Hero bet 40-50%, co fold, BTN call, SB call, BB fold.

Turn 5h

SB checks hero bet $10 like %60 pot, BTN folds and SB check raises to $40, Hero calls.

River Js

SB bets %40 or %50 pot, Hero call.

July 11, 2020 | 5:25 a.m.

i am not %100 sure about opening size. i played with ICMizer and it makes a fair bit of the prize pool ev or whatever at equilibrium but yeah. interesting points though,so they called a tiny bit looser than that range you gave. i agree with 2.8x sizing being bad i think maybe it wasn't the usual sizing but i am not sure. its one of the apps so i can't really go back through and see, i don't think so anyway. Also don't have a HUD just overall mtt stats from "vip card". He was a reg of some sort. make this profitable ?

July 2, 2020 | 2:10 p.m.

12 left out of 182 players. steady payouts 20 got paid, but we are 3rd in chips facing a 2.8x open from an agro CO*, seemingly capable chip leader playing like 27/19/9 or something.

we are 20.5bb deep in the BB with 88 an d CO* raises 2.8x, SB and BTN folds and we rip it?

July 1, 2020 | 7:29 a.m.

80 eff in the early stages of a deepstackish $75, 1x re buy 1x add on. some kind of ant %10 i think

4x iso Q9dd EP 9 handed, get limp called from UTG and by like HJ (50+ VPIP)

Flop - Ah10dJh

we bet about 30%, get called from EP and HJ folds.

turn 10x we get lead into for half pot and make the call.

River is a low heart and EP bets 1/3 pot, we jam for the 3x the bet, so about the original size of the pot OTR

June 28, 2020 | 10:41 a.m.

i don't have an actual hand history to copy, they aren't available on this site.

200/400 no ante, $25 turbo blind structure with 10 minute levels, we are start of 4th level. 30 odd players currently.

70-75 ish eff with UTG, MP has us both covered.

UTG +1 is like 30% VPIP, 7% PFR and 1-2% 3 bet, MP tagged mas maniac.

UTG+1 raise 1600, MP call, folds to hero in the SB who flats with JJ (no FD/BDFD blockers.)

flop is like 10s 8c 2c (pot 5k)

we check, UTG bets POT, MP folds and we JAM 5.2x the bet size.

i guess my other options are 3 bet pre and... fold to 4bet. or check call down if it bricks. suppose it goes in OTT a fair amount of the time.
i also don't have any notes on this player, but i think i may like check call down.

June 18, 2020 | 10:28 a.m.

Post | Chris Atkins posted in MTT: ICMIZER - confused?

so this has come up a few times... but say UTG has a %5 opening range and BB has a %19 re jam range... why do when i add in a flat call from a big stack (maybe just in general) does it widen up all the ranges, even the opening range of UTG? thanks

June 16, 2020 | 10:40 a.m.

i don't know the answer. But imo, i don't think never bluffing is the way to go vs the average low stakes player, but under bluffing from a gto perspective might be alright in a lot of lines vs a lot of players. There are probably spots to over bluff as well. I am the process of working out how to use PT4 properly to study my player pool to work out some of these things. There are for sure players you should bluff very infrequently and just go for value if they wont fold.

June 15, 2020 | 1:25 a.m.

so like %90-120 pot and jamming (or checking) river? i am probably checking some of those hands here so it's interesting from that perspective as well. 2nd time somebody has told me in a spot like this, where Villain has deviated and i should go really polar. hopefully i start picking up on it haha. i need to utilize my solver more.

June 8, 2020 | 10:41 a.m.

can have some strong hand's here. no spades. seems like a good candidate for this line sometimes ?

May 31, 2020 | 11:37 p.m.

yeah i am sure a x/r crossed my mind here, but like you said vs the big size it is probably better to play this way.

May 31, 2020 | 9:40 p.m.

i expect the Q to not be good very often and yeah, its not a great situation after the check raise. MW is very hard to play i agree. i think it was like 97cc for UTG and maybe a set for the other player.

May 29, 2020 | 8:53 p.m.

Not sure how else i can really play this hand so multi way and getting decent odds to call. OTF really don't like the check and call two raise's line though.

May 25, 2020 | 6:28 p.m.

i can't remember much about the player. do you think the $11 pool is bluffing much in spots like these? i am not great at these lower SPR spots but thank you.

May 21, 2020 | 8:44 a.m.

Not loving the turn bet size. imo i should have bet smaller to leave my self more options on the river. Didn't think an over bet jam was getting paid by much worse. As played i think i like x/c river. what do you guys think? P.s it is like middle stages.

May 20, 2020 | 3:37 p.m.

Yeah cool thanks. You seem to know your way around the forum. Any idea how to post hand histories? i keep getting invalid hand when i try copy from PT4

May 20, 2020 | 11:06 a.m.

Anybody winning at more than one game type? if so which ones, did you learn them at the same time and how did you generally go about it? Also interested to here from specialist or people who have tried to play one more and chose something else etc.

May 19, 2020 | 5:23 p.m.

When you run your sims. are you doing say one flop for one board at one stack depth and node locking what you think the other player is up too? i ask because my other sims (cash) are all for like 180 flops with 100bb with certain bet sizes that i would use for like BTN v BB or something.

May 19, 2020 | 5:07 p.m.

i have not put that much time in trying to figure it out specifically for MTT but have done some good sims for 6 max. i watched that guy but i was playing cash mostly when i did watched them about 12 months ago. hhaha i must of missed anything related to MTT. thank you heaps.

May 19, 2020 | 4:59 p.m.

very quick 50 minutes! great stuff.

May 19, 2020 | 4:55 p.m.

hey, i have only used the solver a little for cash game study, wondering if anyone is using it for MTT and how do you go about it?

May 18, 2020 | 1:16 p.m.

how do you format it or whatever i couldn't work it out? thanks

April 4, 2020 | 3 p.m.

Comment | Chris Atkins commented on Starting Out

Good stuff

April 3, 2020 | 11:08 a.m.

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