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TheSeXFactor

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Hi again. The hand is from the same tourney like the previous hand, 5€ bounty. I have no data since I'm new to the table. With a hand like QQ I'm unsure on how to play it against gigantic stacks like me... I just wanted to isolate with the short stacked but then the sb called me....

I put the sb on something like 77 or AJ and I think he is going to fold when I push but he calls and I'm not happy with that situation but anyway just calling there with QQ and no isolating myself seems totally weak.

May 9, 2020 | 8:45 a.m.

Hi everyone. I decided to post the hand like this as it could be more appealing to see and easy to analyze. It is a 5€ Progressive KO. The villain had 3.3€ bounty.

This is one spot i often encounter in micro tourneys, playing vs donk fishes, the type of fish that make giga overbets with hands like top pair, no matter kicker. They're over the moon when they flop top pair and will never fold it.
I have been playing a few hands on the table and he was playing draws passive and calling a lot with every pair. He was betting hard with top pairs, no matter stack sizes or blinds, he was just raising and pot betting like a maniac.
Preflop I defend only because the hand is suited and I have a huge edge vs the two players.
On the flop I can either check or bet, if I bet would be like 75% of the pot, to protect my hand. The first thing that I thought is that I wanted to control the pot because we are deep (maybe I was afraid like a fish?).
One fish bets and the donkey goes all in, and I call because I put him on AX and I block A9 and A5.

My question on these spots: spots when we have 2 low pair on the flop and we are deep but some donk goes all in. I know I'm ahead most of the time, and I was 72% on the flop but the thing is that I'm risking a 80 bb stack, having a super big edge against the table, its still profitable?

May 9, 2020 | 8:02 a.m.

Cannot exluce that QK or K10s, for example but the villain is a reg, is the first hand of a final table, the villain doesn't know how our hero plays, the initial raiser is in UTG so his range can be stronger, the river is scary for a Qx hand and they both have similar stack sizes. It could be an ICM disaster for him to try to extract more value and fail, getting eliminated before shorts. His bet on the river is polarized to me, either a huge insane nonsense bluff or a big value, thats why I put him on QJ but also AJ...KJ?

May 7, 2020 | 9:29 a.m.

Now it is more clear to me what you were saying, thanks!

May 7, 2020 | 9:24 a.m.

The most important things is to keep playing and keep posting spots where you don't know how to play and analyzing the fishes, they're all fishes but there are a lot of different fishes. Some can be bluffed and some others don't.

May 7, 2020 | 7:23 a.m.

Umm ok, I think this is a common situation. You have 27 bb. The push is for 9 bb and AJs on the cutoff is a strong holding. I think you have to push and isolate with the short, your AJs is ahead of his range. If you had like 35 bb or more, I wouldn't push to isolate myself because a calling button, sb or bb would be a disaster with a hand like AJs, it is better to just call.

May 7, 2020 | 7:21 a.m.

A hard to play situation on a FT. Even though you have 19 bb there are shorter stacks so I don't think AQ is good enough to jam, maybe would be ok with AK+ JJ? With Q high board, I prefer to check call and check push on turn, since we can extract some extra value from his bluffs and we are only afraid of a K. I also like to just check-push flop but he is not going to call with anything worse than QJ. Now I put him in exactly QJ or JJ.

May 7, 2020 | 7:17 a.m.

But my doubt is am I going to realize my equity since he can make me fold before the river? only calling to see the turn it is a 18% of equity (9 outs x 2), right?

May 7, 2020 | 7:12 a.m.

I don't really know but he is cbetting against 2 oponents and with a range that hits the flop a lot. Also the size he uses to cbet leaks the hand that he has, AK, QK...so he gonna bet on the turn unless it is a super scary card. I thought it was weak because of my stack depth, compared to the pot, am I not commited? So I prefer to fold if I suspect I won't be able to see the river. With less than 20 bb, would yo play it the same way? I have no doubt with like 30 bb or more, play it like you said.

May 7, 2020 | 7:10 a.m.

I see it now, the bet on the river was stupid. I like the options you said, whether to cbet flop, bet big on turn or to just check flop and bet turn 70%. Both are probably going to make him fold a lot if he doesn't have something good.

May 7, 2020 | 7:06 a.m.

If so, we shouldn't be defending 43s never because if we dont want to play agressive with a flush draw what are we waiting for, a 442 flop? Look at the size of the pot if I just call, I'm commited and will never realize my equity on the river because he is going to bet again on the turn. Yes, it is true the second caller can have a better flush draw. I just consider folding or pushing, calling with 22 bb behind seems extremely weak to me... maybe wrong...

May 5, 2020 | 1:31 p.m.

Hello. This hand is clear to me, he didn't make a mistake, is a really easy call. Why? Well, when you reraise all in he needs to be winning 33% of the time when he calls, to be a break even situation and against your 10X range he is 55% ahead, that's it.

May 4, 2020 | 3:19 p.m.

Hand History | TheSeXFactor posted in MTT: 1€ Tourney, 13 left out of 1600
Blinds: t60,000/t120,000 (5 Players) BN: 3,324,776 (Hero)
SB: 5,134,685
BB: 2,558,047
UTG: 5,917,762
CO: 6,961,646
Preflop (180,000) Hero is BN with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to 252,000, SB folds, BB calls 132,000
Flop (639,000) 2 8 5
BB checks, Hero bets 255,600, BB calls 255,600
Turn (1,150,200) 2 8 5 A
BB checks, Hero bets 460,080, BB calls 460,080
River (2,070,360) 2 8 5 A 7
BB checks, Hero bets 1,080,000, BB raises to 1,575,367 and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot BB wins 4,230,360

April 29, 2020 | 5:20 p.m.

With 16 bb I push against sb limp with Q10. With more than 20 bb i prefer to raise x3.

April 29, 2020 | 8:45 a.m.

Hand History | TheSeXFactor posted in MTT: Playing flush draw against c-bet flop
Blinds: t1,250/t2,500 (8 Players) SB: 67,020
BB: 57,991 (Hero)
UTG: 86,916
UTG+1: 61,085
MP: 43,552
MP+1: 120,114
CO: 61,807
BN: 49,126
Preflop (3,750) Hero is BB with 4 3
UTG raises to 5,000, UTG+1 calls 5,000, MP folds, MP+1 calls 5,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 2,500
Flop (23,850) 7 T K
Hero checks, UTG bets 12,402, UTG+1 folds, MP+1 calls 12,402, Hero raises to 52,666 and is all in, UTG raises to 81,591 and is all in, MP+1 folds
Turn (170,509) 7 T K 6
River (170,509) 7 T K 6 Q
Final Pot BB lost and shows high card King.
UTG wins and shows a pair of Kings.
UTG wins 141,584

April 28, 2020 | 11:37 a.m.

Hi. You have almost 20 bb. You can induce a push like you did or you can just push. Anyway, I think the same hands that are calling your push are the ones that will 3bet you all in so you cannot fold. It is my opinion, I'm never ever folding there. Final stage of the tournament, you have to accumulate chips for final table and that is a perfect spot.

April 28, 2020 | 11:27 a.m.

Hi. In my experience, yes you should check. The implied odds of stack some fish are higher if you let them all enter the pot. It is true that 99 play better vs but at first levels that is not a good idea when you have lots of limpers in a hand. Most of the time you squeeze like this you found yourself in a huge pot in an awkward spot when you either check fold flop or cbet push. I would make that squeeze with QQ, KK, AA. What to do with JJ or AK? Exploitative push to get call by AX, worse pairs. My strategy.

April 18, 2020 | 4:31 p.m.

I don't like the check raise with top pair 9 kicker, you are unbalancing your game and when he reraises you're pretty dead. I play check call. and see on the turn. The point here is our stack which is really complicated, for ICM maybe a fold preflop.

Sept. 28, 2018 | 6 a.m.

Hi! to me this hand is simple if you had some notes. Preflop I like to make my 3-bet a little bit bigger like to 9x and up to 10 or 11 if the villain is a calling fishy. I don't bet half the pot never I would make to 1/3 there and on the turn our mate is right, you block his bluffs and block QJ which ok he could have but unlikely. I would blindly call hoping for him to have KJ/AJ because we can't always be folding when doubled card appears on the flop when we got premium. If you know that fish is check raising turn with monsters on flop then easy fold, if he is a regular standard fish I call.

Sept. 27, 2018 | 6:25 a.m.

I agree with Pedro, even if we love our deep run and scared of throwing...it is a call

Sept. 26, 2018 | 1:49 a.m.

Sept. 26, 2018 | 1:46 a.m.

Maybe against less oponents... against just 1 I would definitely like it but I do prefer to just cb-bet.To be honest I don't care a lot of balancing ranges in micro but I don't know

Sept. 26, 2018 | 1:39 a.m.

Even though I agree with Mister Madeira about 3-betting preflop, there is a fish (on micro everyone is a fish until they demonstrate they are not) that is roling, and making a good size rol, that is saying he is not going to fold to a 3-bet like 80% of the times, plus you can face a 4-bet and in case you flop a set against just 1 oponent you can't get all value you could if there were like 3 fishes in the hand cause its easier for them to get trapped. I change this play in higher blinds but at the beginning I adjust my game to catch fishes.
I like the way you played it but I would've check-raised the flop because it impacts on his range and our perceived range could include some bluffs (if he is not a super fish) and there are a lot of scary turns like the K. Once you check called the flop I'm fine with your line of just check calling all streets. I would never fold on the river cause KJ, K10, J10, 10K QK, KA would play similar and you burst him.

Sept. 26, 2018 | 1:35 a.m.

Comment | TheSeXFactor commented on Yikes!

Yes but you will always be out of position against a big stack and this is the kind of flops you want to stack in. True but then do it keeping in mind you won't fold unless a really scaring card appears.

Sept. 22, 2018 | 12:09 p.m.

Comment | TheSeXFactor commented on Too thin?

Ok till the river I play the hand just like you. You bet 50% on the turn and he calls you again, being a tighty guy he should have Ax and if you said you don't think he is flatting A9,A10 you need to think he could have cold called with AQ which is the hand I put for him, or AK (lot of fishes don't reraise that hand in a deep run cause they are scared) and he could have been slowplaying a set. On the river if I don't have AK or AQ there I prefer to check, the pot its ok for the strength of our hand and we allow him to bluff us sometimes if he missed with hands like QK. I think if you bet that on the river you will only be called with better aces. The guy as I said probably had AQ or AK too afraid to 3-bet, if not A10, A8..

Sept. 22, 2018 | 12:06 p.m.

Comment | TheSeXFactor commented on Yikes!

Ok, first of all he is a big stack and can bust us and we have 40 bb I'm not 3-betting against this type of oponent because will call you a lot and will get you into trouble. This hand is what I just said, even with a top pair you are unsure on what to do, I would just flat. Not being resultadistic. If he was shorter I would 3-bet for induce call his push. With AQ you are making a big pot against someone will call you with lot of hands, as played I would die with that hand, which hands didn't reraise you and got you beat? QQ, 1010 and Q10, you got beat all other hands, if you 3-bet pre and flop Q high flop you need to stack in, otherwise your play has no sense to me.

Sept. 22, 2018 | 12:25 a.m.

Even if they are fishes you need to shove with 77.

Sept. 21, 2018 | 10:50 a.m.

Comment | TheSeXFactor commented on 4way Limped pot 4

Against his raise in the flop I'm folding.

Sept. 21, 2018 | 10:49 a.m.

ATs I bet it is a flat but of I don't know, you're deep so...

Sept. 21, 2018 | 10:44 a.m.

His 3-bet range/pushing flop it is polarized, I mean he can have things like AK but also and more likeable to have AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT that doesn't want to give your free cards so I like your fold. If you got notes on him doing this with trash I would call but fishes always do that when they got premium hands, they just can't control size.

Sept. 21, 2018 | 10:41 a.m.

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