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Awesome post Demon. I feel so greatful that your a part of the RIO community. The advices and the time you put into writing these posts are priceless. Ive always enjoyed your content, and feel that you've basically nailed the point of putting things into perspective, and focus more on the tangibles such as bankroll management.

For OP: I think your putting too much on your plate. Focus more on the reachable goals. Ive always enjoyed PBG threads where people write about their goals for there year. However, one of the trends that I've noticed is that many people strive too high of a goal, and get lost along the journey. Start with something small, and accomplish it in piecemeal fashion. Also if you are a professional player, most of your time should be dedicated to poker and grinding volume, and nothing else. We only have a limited amount of time each day to spare, and with you juggling everything on the plate, nothing would be accomplished at the end.

I hope you succeed, and lets all make RIO a better community

June 25, 2022 | 3:03 a.m.

awesome list. thanks for the write up and sharing.

May 21, 2022 | 10:05 p.m.

awesome thread. been lurking on the journals for years, and really enjoyed yours and onklebs content. Could you give us a goodbye gift and gives us a 500Z power ranking for the fans. Ive always been curious all these years, who stood the test of time. Also gl in your future endeavors. Ill subscribe to your insta

May 20, 2022 | 1:27 a.m.

glgl. its cool to see you move your old blog from 2+2 now to RIO.

Btw nice view mate. if you dont mind me asking, what country is this?

March 29, 2022 | 1:55 p.m.

sorry to be a party pooper, but your better off finding a job than start and grind from 2nl with the current horrible rake structure. gl anyways

Jan. 27, 2022 | 4:02 a.m.

gl on your endeavors. I feel your in a good place with your stable job, and also winning at poker, while not overextending. This is an advice from someone whose been doing it for many years. Stick to one format and master it rather than branching off to all these variants. gl in 2022

Jan. 2, 2022 | 2:14 a.m.

Bro awesome first post and excited to hear what you will write further. From your writing, i can relate to alot of what your saying. Especially the confidence aspect, which is prevalent amongst us asians, which im assuming you are from your screename. With your knowledge and passion for AI, i think you can achieve way bigger things in life, especially in todays market. Keep poker as a fun hobby and limited passion, since this is coming from someone who has played poker for 10+ years semi professionally and has a full time job. Hope you achieve great things.


Dec. 26, 2021 | 3:41 a.m.

great job demon. have always been a fan of your post. Ive always wanted to ask how you cope with swings from say 2Knl when your average stake is 500z. its 4X your average BI, and obviously the skill level would be a bit higher. Do you think having enough BR helps to cope with losses, or youve been doing meditation to help you cope with losses. gl gl

May 30, 2021 | 9:13 p.m.

Im a 200nl/500nl reg. I have my own Discord group running with 15 people strong and have been actively running for 6 months. But i do want to expand and get more likeminded people in it for the discussions. Most of our members are playing 100nl-500nl. We only ask for active participation from our members, and want to see the hunger and drive to push each other forward. I would believe that this would be a mutual endeavor, as everybody with the right mindset will be able to network and learn from this.

If interested DM me.

"A goal without a plan is just a wish"

May 11, 2021 | 8:16 p.m.

Post | TheLove_Below posted in NLHE: NLHE Discord study Group

Im a 200nl reg. I have my own Discord group running with 11 people strong. But i do want to expand and get more likeminded people in it for the discussions. Most of our members are playing 100nl-500nl. We only ask for active participation from our members, and want to see the hunger and drive to push each other forward.

If interested DM me.

"A goal without a plan is just a wish"

Nov. 14, 2020 | 3:02 a.m.

flip burgers at mcdonalds if you need money so bad. i mean this is wrong on all levels.

Oct. 13, 2020 | 2:14 a.m.

Its probably an interesting spot to look into. I used to do this alot, which sacrificed alot of EV for me. In lower stakes, when everybody's limping, you have the tendency to limp with just complete trash in the SB/BB position, just so you can hope to hit.

around 95%+, your check/folding OTF. I mean, it doesnt look like much. but if running through 50K hand sample, thats alot of Sacrificed EV in your overall winrate

April 26, 2019 | 3:43 p.m.

I would add this combination in my 3betting BB range. since it has playability and BU raising range should be super-wide, where JKs is crushing its equity.
I mean i wouldnt even care if villain has low 3betfold%, since im dominating all of his TJ/JQo/55 type hands equity wise, while JKs flops well.

*) As played, i would call turn. and probably call most river. This is probably top of ur range. and with villains stats, he's not that tight to warrant any fold turns.

April 25, 2019 | 3:51 p.m.

I just cant see villain barreling 2-streets with bare 5X combination. ANd what combos of 5X is calling your C/R turn??

Whether or not to call here lies on the premises of how villain plays his turn hand range on semi-wet boards. If he's fastplaying his 2pair+ combos, then his river Jam is clearly a bluff with missed 6X/9X/ or FD.

*)GIven the SPR on the turn, its hard for me to imagine why if he has a strong range, that he wouldnt Jam turn, while waiting for river.

VIllains line is really unbalanced, and makes no sense. I would call

April 25, 2019 | 3:46 p.m.

Comment | TheLove_Below commented on KQo 3B pot

I mean you have to provide more stats for us to make a reasonable estimate of villains ranges.
I mean from basic Poker perspective:
1) He didnt 4bet, which we can take out AK/QQ+ from his range. and since we have QK, we block AQ and AK.
2) Theres a missed FD, which villain could be jamming river on a missed Draw.
3) Villain should have minimal combos of 3X in his 3bet flatting range
4) You have K(h), which takes out alot of villains bluff combos.
5) I mean when you checked turn, your range is Capped at QX, which VIllain might be punishing you for.

I would fold more , since dynamic wise, you 3bet preflop, bet flop, and called a turn bet.
You can still have AT/AJ combos in your turn calling range. And if he's a reg, he should be somewhat balanced OTR.

I would fold

April 25, 2019 | 3:40 p.m.

i think 10 point gap would be too huge, and shows that your defending way too wide.
i dont have my HUD. but something like 24/18/8 is my avg stats.
But i was filtering through my database. My 3bet is super high in SB vs LP raise scenarios.
And also BU vs MP raise scenarios.

*)WHile MP/HJ are usually on the tighter side, with BB being above avg

April 25, 2019 | 3:33 p.m.

I mean what Backdoor FLush does he have here. 8(c)X(c)/A(c)X(c) that floated flop. Given he's semi tight preflop, i wouldnt see him floating much here. I think your either losing to a bigger 9X like A9/K9/ or 88. Given the sizing, its more of an exploitable fold, where you marked that villain is incapable of bluffing enough % times in this spot. I would call default, since i want to see what villain has.

*) And he could still be bluffing with his 67s/TJ combos here in this spot where he missed.

April 24, 2019 | 4:30 p.m.

I disagree with your modeling. Since on every street you have to trim a portion of the ranges out from your preflop assesment of his overall hand range.

Vs a Jam in this river spot, your equity should only be around 30-35% a rough estimate. Since VIllain could have all combos of JJ/44/88 in his river jamming range. A(c)X(c) combos, A(c)A which your beating, and some weaker Flushes like TJ/JQ/TQ of clubs.

I mean for you to call here, you must have a read that villain doesnt slowplay his 2Pair+ handrange on Wet boards. I would still call personally, given u still dominate alot of villains raising value range.

April 24, 2019 | 4:25 p.m.

more player or population dependent. I mean you shouldnt widen the 3betting range too much, since your hands would play very tricky postflop given range disadvantage of looser ranges.

I would adjust more towards a linear 3betting range, where broadways playability is alot easier compared to bare AXs time hands.

April 24, 2019 | 4:08 p.m.

I mean if VIllain is opening only 7%. I think most of his hand range is Broadways/JJ+ hand range, which actually makes the flop favor villain alot more in terms of connectivity. I wouldnt want to bet the flop, since i wouldnt want to be faced with a C/R on the flop, if villain does that, thus making our drawing hands bad in terms of pot-odds to continue.

*) I dont hate the call given the Q(d) and K(d) blocker effects.
VIllain clearly doesnt have the following value combos
QK/AQ/AK/TQ/TK/JK combos of diamond flush given blocker effects.
your only losing to probably AT or AJ diamonds here.

*) I cant see him raising 89 diamonds here, given he doesnt have it in his preflop raising range.

Furthermore, you can still be beating hands like QQ/KK/QKs which he is jamming for value.


April 24, 2019 | 4:04 p.m.

Depends on you overall flop/turn strategy. and whether or not to add this combo into the mix.
Default i would just call this hand vs unknown. But i would deviate if for example this players flatting hands like TJs/22-99/ vs 3bets. where 3betting JQs is in my linear 3betting strategy for value.

Another reason why i wouldnt 3bet is. its a HJ vs MP hand, where both are relatively early position and hand ranges are more narrow.
I think the dynamics would be different if it was played as SB vs BU. ANd default i would raise JQs in SB. overall i think u played it on the loose side.
IM old school where i still model hands with CREV. i think given reasonable parameters, a hand like JQs is clearly a call OTT vs value-ish C/Raising flop range.

April 23, 2019 | 6:27 p.m.

i dont understand why you would 3bet a 6% PFR villain from early position.
I mean his overall hand range. This is what 6% opening range looks like
(99+,ATs+,KJs+,AJo+), it clearly has you dominated hot and cold equity.

*) You have to realize that villain is never folding when he C/Raise+Bets you on 2-streets.
for your hand to be +EV jam OTT, you must also realize a certain % of Fold equity here too.
I mean your looking at around 30-35% equity ball-park vs this villains calling range. I would just peel and play rivers

April 23, 2019 | 6:03 p.m.

I think this is more tailored towards how wide or how tight is Villains 4bet calling range. And how wide VIllain is capable of Jamming for value.
you shouldnt see any 22/ or 66 in villains overall hand range here, since i would assume the general players at this stakes calling with them. Your losing to 1 combination of TT/ 3 combos of JJ/ and probably 2 combos of TJs. and even with TJs i dont see much 3betting with.

idk if you have any river stats. if villains river aggression is around 20-30%, i would lean towards a fold. I cant possibly see AA 1-pair handrange being at near good frequency in a 200BB pot. I mean, generally in these decisions you should be playing more exploitatively, and gearing your tendencies towards villains stats.

April 23, 2019 | 5:46 p.m.

I mean, i personally dont understand why u were barreling on the flop or turn given that your hand has showdown equity. If u had either the A(c) or K(c) i thought it made more sense, where your building the pot to stack off OTR.

Your solving the river scenario through an GTO perspective, but given its 5NL, do you think that villain will really be jamming light here?
If he was bluffing with his SD+FD, wouldnt he have raised on earlier streets as opposed to the last street.

3) Lastly, if you had a K(c) or A(c) with blocker effect, this makes it more call, since your blocking his overall value range. and players at 5NL arent jamming random 2-pairs light here.

Given scenario, clear fold.
Check flop

April 23, 2019 | 5:39 p.m.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.25/$0.50 - 6 players

UTG: $78.77 (158 bb) VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 1.2, Hands: 1309
MP: $58.77 (118 bb) VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 1062
CO: $184.26 (369 bb) VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 732
BU (Hero): $107.99 (216 bb) VPIP: 32, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.1, Hands: 90963
SB: $22.51 (45 bb) VPIP: 20, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 4.5, Hands: 866
BB: $32.34 (65 bb) VPIP: 34, PFR: 16, 3B: 12, AF: 2.0, Hands: 91

Pre-Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A♠ 3♠
2 players fold, CO raises to $1.11, Hero 3-bets to $4, 2 players fold, CO calls $2.89

Flop: ($8.75) J♥ 8♠ 9♠ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($8.75) 8♥ (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $11.47, CO raises to $33.33, BU (Hero) folds

1) Villain was semi-raising light In the CO. I wanted to 3bet isolate to play a bigger pot with him. My logic was we're both 200BB effective. I am drawing to the nuts, and i have positional advantage over villain, which was my reasoning for 3bet iso.
2) I mean the flop is such a bad board for me. It crushes villains overall calling range. I mean he should have all combos of 88/99/ some % of JJ/TQs, and low frequencies of 89s.
Flop i thought was pretty standard.

3) I was confused OTT with his double check. Since i would assume he's leading out with all combos of 8X/99/JJ/TQ/JX for value and protection. Also, we're both deep, as the SPR is 1-11.
He checks. The logic i have with my Overbet is i capped his range at weak JX. I should have all QQ+ combos, some 99/JJ that i would also play this way. I dont think i have TQ. and potting with A3s, i could still realize equity vs his hands such as TX random OESD.

4) WHen he raised me, i was confused but ended up folding, since now given board paired, im not drawing to nuts. and i cant possibly see a logical person bluffing at relative enough Frequency vs my Overbet line here.

April 23, 2019 | 5:26 p.m.

Post | TheLove_Below posted in Chatter: Odds Oracle Software Question

I'm currently deciding on whether to purchase the $19 or $89  PPT software license. Can some of the Experts who use this software tell me the differences between the $89 package and the $19 package, given the information provided on the Website wasnt that clear to me. 

Thnx in advance. :)

Sept. 30, 2013 | 6:08 a.m.

OP, if you have the Money for 2/4 Live, then why dont you deposit more online, and try to move up in stakes, where i think its far more profitable than your Live Ventures.

I'm no expert at Live games, but the setbacks of Live grinding 

1) Slow pace, not enough hands to establish your edge in these games. Its impossible for your edge to be that great within 100-200 hands frame of time

2) Rake is pretty ridiculous, My Casino is 5-6% or more i think, which i think is absurd, and cuts directly into your hourly. And include the fact that we all tip after every winning hand

3) I just think the opportunity cost lost at spending time grinding Live far outweighs the money you can win from those games.

Sept. 17, 2013 | 4:52 p.m.

glgl, I would definetly like to see him discuss more on Theory Concepts, given the chats we had. 


Sept. 16, 2013 | 2:23 a.m.

I remember seeing a video of Ansky and his friend do a dual-video. Thought it was the funniest thing ever. 

Sept. 14, 2013 | 1:29 a.m.

thikn of how you would play your whole set of ranges CHael, and then pick the most plausible line, where you range is still uncapped. I think Betting turn makes your whole range fairly unbalanced. 

Sept. 13, 2013 | 3:34 p.m.

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