hey I am struggling with this spot.
As you can see, in terms of GTO, BB 3bet w polarized range on this spot and BB also 4Bet aggressively with polarized one.
Let's assume practically on this spot. SB is rec. And his RFI range is kinda same with reg's one. But SB would defend more passively and 4Bet less with linear range, how BB range would change?
Less 4Bet from SB -> BB would 3Bet much linearly because BB could see flop IP more often?
More linearly 4Bet from SB -> BB wider defense vs 4Bet? Some JJ/even QQ would flat? It depends on how linear SB's range is, tho.
If anyone has a preflop solver, I would appreciate it if you could nodelock this spot and analyze it.
All comments are welcome.
Oct. 5, 2022 | 4:59 a.m.
For that I guess its interesting if the sample size of 100 hands was
from 3 handed action, short handed or full ring. Because for 3 handed
those are quite reasonable stats.
Yeah this hand was about to break a table after some players leaving. Played vs him with 6players but yeah I could not say he is a volatile fish for now. Found some fishy show down hands tho. He looks kinda agg/bit loose player.
Assuming no reads whatsoever my impression is the general population
on this limit is rather straight forward. Which makes me lean more
towards the pessimistic side of his range. In any case, I agree that
river jam is overplayed here. It makes sense given the way you played
the hand but realistically he will be snapping with a lot of nut
Ya even BBvBTN spot, my jam looks bit overplayed especially at 25NL pool. People are straight forward as you said at this limit. Thanks anyway :)
July 1, 2022 | 8:50 a.m.
Thx for your comment. Yeah most of posts are from losing hands at this journal, I would say. But it does not matter whether I lost or not, with this hand. So I hid my showdown for protecting some bias. My point is how you guys feel about his line in terms of exploit. Any thoughts about his line?
July 1, 2022 | 8:33 a.m.
July 1, 2022 | 5:44 a.m.
Any info about villain?
But in general, double barrel w your Ahi gut is totally fine. If villain's Fold to 3Bet is fairly low, he could have tons of garbage such as low pp, Ahi, Khi, and even much worse hands. Vs that loose passive villain, double barrel would be def fine with this exact hand, I think. So depends on villain's stats or show down hands.
May 12, 2022 | 2:27 p.m.
CO: $34.93 (Hero)
May 12, 2022 | 2:13 p.m.
Overall I agree. That river cards K is so terrible for my range. Thus my river bet size would be huge and it should be nut or air range in terms of GTO. Probably jam is only size for GTO?
However I think it is going to be really tough for him to call,
because you have many value combos as well but he doesnt need to call
much. Likely (depends on your size) peel some trips and bluff catch AA
as best unblockers/blockers
Yeah, maybe vs nitty fish/reg, bluffing w this exact hand would be fine exploitatively. But vs this decent reg who has 55wwsf and 49w$sd, I would not bluff on this spot w 34s. Btw he had 55. Umm, I think I have better hands to bluff with otr, like you said.
April 26, 2022 | 3:58 p.m.
Yeah pot bet ott w this 2p would be wrong in hindsight because there are many bad cards for my polarized range, I mean it might be bit weak w 34s-2pair. So more bigger sizing would be good ott, sth like 1.5x~.
April 26, 2022 | 3:40 p.m.
BB: $25.35 (Hero)
April 23, 2022 | 3:04 p.m.
it's not a good time either, with Canadian players only able to play
on the client for another couple of weeks before they get segregated
in to a Canadian player pool. there are quite a lot of Canadian regs,
and many Canadian fish as well.
Is that true? I could not find info about it at all. Could you give me the source?
March 10, 2022 | 2:51 p.m.
Villain is like 20/15/3B:2.5(2/79) Fto3B: 50 SB RFI:44 over 250hands.
I saw him CC with marginal in SB so I could say he is kinda weak/passive rec?
flop: I use half pot CB/Check on this flop.
turn: 5 is bit scary but he could have tons of 2over/st8 draw. Half bet would be fine.
river: 2 is totally blank. With K9, triple could be thin in hindsight because he could flat w TT/JJ, given his low 3B stats(he would also 4B way less here BVB)
His xr jam looks too strong. He could have some full house/straight/trips. I don't think he xr w over pair. And its probably difficult to find enough bluffs... Blocking 9 looks fine but its not enough against his value-heavy xr range.
How do you guys feel with my b-b-b line and fold vs xr otr? Check back OTT also seems to be fine given his relatively strong flat range pre.
Any opinion would be appreciated.
March 5, 2022 | 5:07 a.m.
Villain is like 57/39/17, Fto3Bet 0/5 over 60samples.
preflop : Maybe should be much bigger.
flop : range bet w 30%. But cb-size could be bigger exploitatively, vs this player.
turn : Faced halfish donk then hero 33% raise and flat his min 3bet. I thought that his xc-donk half range is mostly marginal hands like naked FD/pair + SD type hands. Yes he could have some straight sometimes for sure. So I chose that small raise size vs his donk. Big raise size would isolate his strong combos overly.
1. What do you think about my assumption, "xc-donk half" line is full of marginals.
2. My play was just based on six-sense at the time. Do you have any MDA-based data on this spot?
Dec. 11, 2021 | 10:01 a.m.
Villain looks tighter/regish player like 19/16/11 over 150 samples.
flop : check/check. Check back from villain on AAJ is def suspicious in hindsight.
turn : 60ish prove from her with full house. Think this size is a mistake. I should target his random trips OTT.
river : 75 bet and faced 75% raise from villain. Hero's full house was already kinda bluff catcher at this point. But I no-brainer called just because its full-house lol. Sigh.
What is villain's raise range?
In theory, villain would have no choice but cbetting range OTF. But he did not cbet OTF.
Some random A3s,A8s, nut Flush? Slowplayed AJ? I don't think he would have 33 OTR.
He could have some random value combos such as better full houses than mine but don't think he could found some random bluff with this size.
Yeah feel like its enough to defend with just AJ/A8/A3.
My question is;
1. If prove ott, which sizing could be better?
2. After proving ott with your size, which size do you choose or not betting? And the reasoning?
3. Do you guys have any exploitative assumption about his check back range?
Think I choose 75size OTT > pot-120 overbet OTR line, then fold vs big raise.
After calling hero's 75 prove, his range is relatively strong. So targeting his random trips/flush.
Dec. 1, 2021 | 5:31 a.m.
Villain looks regish player like 23/19/7.4 over 200samples.
flop : T/low/low board. Would bet widely with half size.
turn : kinda bad card for OOP. AdQh would be generally in check range bc of blocking backdoor diamond OTF. Probably CB with AhQx OTT with some frequency?
river : Kh is relatively good card OOP prob. Then I chose small sizing. Its targeting his low-mid PPs. Though AdQh have blocked some Flush combos/AK/AQ, thought that small sizing could be the most profitable one vs low/mid PPs...
My questions are;
1. If you bluff w AdQh, do you choose smaller size?
2. Is there any reason to choose other sizing exploitatively?
3. Any reasons to split ranges OTR into big bet(Flush, some AK, trips) and small bet(marginal Kx, QQ, JJ, ), gto-wise/exploitatively vs reg? Tbh I don't know about this. Maybe vs fish, two bet size would be better since their strong combos could be inelastic otr.
After checking OTT, OOP would have disadvantage about Flush combos prob. So simplifying with small size would be easier/better vs reg?
4. Wait. AdQh is wrong combo for bluffing? yeah...Its blocking AdQd/AdJd float otf. Ummm feel like the river is bit bluff heavy spot.
Anyway thanks in advance :)
Dec. 1, 2021 | 4:45 a.m.
Thanks for your comment :)
As you said, CC > jam line from fish would be suspicious definitely. JJ would be BE against BTN jam(assuming JJ+, AKo, AKs) though. Do you think its more tighter range in reality?
Nov. 29, 2021 | 9:26 p.m.
Yeah given BTN's stats, his 3bet range would be decently wide here. Now feel like that isolating fish is the most important concept on this spot.
Btw, your saying "4bet folding" means not vs BTN jam but BB jam right?
Nov. 29, 2021 | 9:18 p.m.
BTN looks regish stats with small samples though, and BB CCer is loose passive player. He is like 40/10/13 over 50samples.
4Bet was the first option that popped into my head because didn't wanna see flop multi way w JJ. But I was bit scared to do so bc of BBs stack size. He could have QQ here?
My main points are;
1. don't wanna see flop MW w JJ.
2. wanna isolate BB player if possible. He could have wide CC range here like tons of PPs, Axs, Kxs, and big Axo.
3. JJ could be not strong enough to 4bet here?
If BB were 100bb deep, do you guys have 4Bjam option here?
Ummm, feel like JJ is not strong enough here for 4Bet, as a result...
What do you guys think this spot? :)
Nov. 29, 2021 | 1:03 a.m.
I heard some solver guys are saying you have to use nodelock efficiently, brah brah...
I nodelock a sim sometimes to review my HH but that's it.
Just fix some postflop bet/check ranges then check a more realistic sim for review...
That is all I do concerned with nodelocking.
I have some aggregated reports on SBvBTN 3BP/BTNvCo 3BP/ some SRP. Can I nodelock those reports as well?
Maybe yes. But how? Manually nodelock those ranges flop by flop? It would be so tough/boring work.
I use GTO+ for now but maybe it could be much easier with Pio?
Some effective ways to use nodelock feature, I know for now, are;
1. nodelock a board
2. nodelock whole boards like 184/163 flops, for aggregated reports.
Anyway using nodelock efficiently requires assuming population tendency or need MDA based data?
Do you guys know any other methods about nodelock? This question may be in the solver coaching category though.
Nov. 26, 2021 | 1:27 a.m.
CO is 33/26/4 over 150 hands samples.
flop : kinda range check spot for me.
turn : I think its no choice but xc with a pair, double gut and FD vs nearly pot bet.
river : I snapped vs 80ish bet in reality. But need to take time more for sure...
I thought his big bet looks so strong and my worst flush would be beaten often against his Ahi/Khi Flush. But his 75/nearly pot/80 line is bit suspicious in hindsight. I don't think weaker players would bet like pot size with FD. Maybe AThh/KThh. Set/2pair/OP(I didn't think he would have over pair at the time, though.) are much more natural. Yeah I don't think weaker player would pot bet w naked FD often. And his river size would definitely reduce some Flush combos.
I feel like its a blunder now...What do you guys think this spot?
Nov. 18, 2021 | 11:10 p.m.
Thank you for your comment ! :)
Yeah, like you said, I was blindly flatting w KK just because of his stats probably. And I was also scared of facing AA pre.
"if a strong range equals less folds, KK loves to jam rather than slowplaying."
Yes you are right. I was just being scared of AA too much and did not care about other potential combos like AK, QQ.
Nov. 17, 2021 | 4:20 p.m.
BN: $15.59 (Hero)