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ChaoRen123

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Well thanks guys, honestly afterwards I think that we need him to have bluffs here to be able to call it down, even if we beat some value hands. I tend to agree with weltcheftrainer that amongst his range, small Axss is the kind of hand that occurs the most here. I ended up calling and villain showed A3ss

Dec. 11, 2018 | 4:36 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Dodging the value hammer 2.0
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) CO: $30.61 (Hero)
BN: $8.26
SB: $23.09
BB: $20.00
UTG: $20.00
Hey, still readless :D
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.57, 2 folds, BB calls $0.37
Flop ($1.24) 4 T 3
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40
Mainly betting for protection as my field is passive and won't check/raise enough here.
Turn ($2.04) 4 T 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60
I do this very often in my games, small block bets IP for protection in order to check every rivers. This is a very exploitative play imo well adapted to passive fields.
River ($3.24) 4 T 3 2 A
BB bets $6.80
I block the hands which I split with a lot, and he has a bunch of flush draws. I don't think I am ever close to having the 40% required to call here... Do you agree?

Dec. 11, 2018 | 1:16 a.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Borderline floats in a 3bet pot
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) UTG: $32.22
CO: $20.00
BN: $26.17 (Hero)
SB: $18.48
BB: $18.13
Hey, villain is unkown.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BN with A K
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, CO calls $1.50
Flop ($4.30) 3 6 3
CO checks, Hero bets $1.80, CO raises to $4.50, Hero calls $2.70
This kind of minraise is really merged in my database. Could be total thrash to a pocket pair.
Turn ($13.30) 3 6 3 9
CO bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50
Not sure about this float at all, but I still think I have more than the required 20%.
River ($22.30) 3 6 3 9 Q
CO checks
I don't know if I have to bluff this runout if I float the turn. I think I have enough showdown value against missed draws to justify a check. I don't know if he either folds 99-JJ here, neither Qxss or Qxdd.

Dec. 11, 2018 | 1:10 a.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Do we have to call 2nd nuts OTT?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) CO: $34.42
BN: $20.00 (Hero)
SB: $20.00
BB: $20.00
UTG: $20.00
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BN with 9 T
Hero raises to $0.57, UTG folds, CO calls $0.37
Hey, sb folds, bb calls*. He is unknown, but probably a fish given the turn action.
Flop ($1.24) J 8 7
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90
Turn ($3.04) J 8 7 9
CO checks, Hero bets $2.25, CO raises to $32.95 and is all in
We have around 16 to call, getting 41% pot odds. Against a range composed of nuts, splits and combo pair+draws, we have 40% equity. [TT,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,AdJd,AcJc,QdJd,QcJc,Jd9d,Jc9c,Td9d,Tc9c,Td8d,Tc8c,9d8d,9c8c,9d7d,9c7c,8d7d,8c7c,7d6d,7c6c,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo]

Dec. 11, 2018 | 12:59 a.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Dodging the value hammer OTR?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (4 Players) BN: $38.36 (Hero)
SB: $75.13
BB: $21.67
CO: $60.30
Villain is unknown, definitely not passive as we've battled in a few big pots before.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BN with K J
CO raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, 2 folds
Flop ($1.50) J A T
CO checks, Hero checks
Turn ($1.50) J A T 7
CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80
River ($3.10) J A T 7 2
CO bets $2.40, Hero raises to $8.80, CO raises to $58.90 and is all in
I think he mostly bets 89ss otf, same for Q9s, he doesn't have 87ss or 76ss. So is this an easy laydown? I have to call about 140bbs OTR.

Dec. 11, 2018 | 12:52 a.m.

Yep, there are several datapoints to aprove this:
1) 3way pot are underfbluffed
2) delayed check/raises oop are underbluffed
3) the average postflop stats of shortstackers/fishes in my field are passive.

Dec. 10, 2018 | 4:43 p.m.

Dec. 10, 2018 | 4 p.m.

Did not build it yet in H2N, but I think anyway I wouldn't have a big enough database for it to converge

Dec. 10, 2018 | 3:58 p.m.

I think he already polarizes OTT, even though I kind of agree with what you mean. I think the main difference is that he will probably not bet AQ for 3/4 OTR.

Didn't know if I could lay this down because he does not have a lot of value combos (AK 3bets, A9 doesn't bet flop for that sizing, plus he has only one K9s. The rest are 6 combos of sets and maybe a few Ax.) compared to the bunch of missed draws he can have

Dec. 10, 2018 | 3:57 p.m.

Versus a 2/3rd bet+ OTR I would probably comfortably lay this down. Not the same agaisnt a 1/2 psb imo (even though this sizing makes him more likely to value bet an Ax) :)

Dec. 10, 2018 | 3:43 p.m.

Hey, I play in an anonymous environment where the average player is 33/18/7 (5handed), with a high WTSD and a somewhat low agression factor.
But in my database the B ip vs misscbet is 39% of the time a bluff. However 3way is not the same as heads up.

To sum up, they underbluff when they are barreling. So I guess I can fold this hand and bluffcatch with Ax+.

Dec. 10, 2018 | 3:40 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) UTG: $20.30
CO: $27.11
BN: $20.20
SB: $27.59 (Hero)
BB: $14.87
Hey guys, villain is a passive fish.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is SB with K A
UTG calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, UTG calls $0.70
Flop ($2.00) K 3 4
Hero bets $0.85, UTG calls $0.85
Turn ($3.70) K 3 4 J
Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50
I wanna bet turn for sure here imo. I have a bunch of value against a fish, and I don't wanna give him a free card.
River ($8.70) K 3 4 J 3
Hero bets $3.90
I wanted to go for 3 streets as I think he never folds a Kx here. Against this range [100:K5s+,K7o+,74:AJs,AcTc,QcTc,Ac9c,Qc9c,Jc9c,Ac8c,Qc8c,Jc8c,Tc8c,Ac7c,Qc7c,Jc7c,Tc7c,9c7c,Ac6c,Jc6c,Tc6c,9c6c,8c6c,Ac5c,Tc5c,9c5c,8c5c,7c5c,Ac4c,9c4c,8c4c,7c4c,6c4c,7c3c,6c3c,5c3c,Ac2c,AJo,41:A3s,A3o,31:JJ,50:K4s,55:44-33,40:43s], I have 61% Equity. So this seems to be a pretty clear thin value bet.
But on the other hand, I posted a similar hand where I went for 3barrels with TPTK against a fish on a flushed board, and everyone told me that it was too thin.

Dec. 10, 2018 | 2:59 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Bluffcatching versus unknown
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) UTG: $20.17
CO: $20.20 (Hero)
BN: $68.68
SB: $6.01
BB: $23.11
Hey, readless on villain
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is CO with K T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.59, BN calls $0.59, SB folds, BB calls $0.39
Flop ($1.87) K 9 2
BB checks, Hero checks, BN bets $1.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.25
Turn ($4.37) K 9 2 A
Hero checks, BN bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30
I'm curious about which would be our worse calling hand here OTT? K8s? Q9s or T9s sucks a bit because of blocking gutshots?
River ($10.97) K 9 2 A 7
Hero checks, BN bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50
And now villain reps mainly 99, 22, 1 combo of K9s, AQcc or AJcc or even AK at a non-zero frequency. He has a bunch of bluffs. But 3barrels are underbluffed in my population. My range is also somewhat uncapped as the A OTT hits my range quite hard.

Dec. 10, 2018 | 2:50 p.m.

Hey, ok I get the idea behind checking here. As we mainly have two streets of value, this just simplifies the hand to get max value :D

Dec. 10, 2018 | 2:40 p.m.

Hey, yeah in game I thought that those delayed stabs 3/4 pot are likely to be underbluffed by the fish population on this type of board, but this assumption was based on nothing but a feeling.
Anyway, I think you are right in the sense that he will have some random bluffs at a non-zero frequency, and our equity can probably justify this shove without needing him to fold an outrageous number of time I guess...
However I don't know at which point this is maybe too assumptive to chose this line over another. I think afterwards I prefer betting/calling flop and turn as Jeff_ said

Dec. 10, 2018 | 1:16 p.m.

I like the xc | lead line, that makes a lot of sense. Thx! :)

Dec. 9, 2018 | 5:48 p.m.

Yeah agreed, thanks! :)

Dec. 9, 2018 | 5:46 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Do we have to fold the turn?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) SB: $20.00
BB: $8.00
UTG: $14.29
CO: $25.29 (Hero)
BN: $13.45
Hey, Villains are both likely fishes.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is CO with Q T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.57, BN calls $0.57, SB folds, BB calls $0.37
Flop ($1.81) T 6 5
BB checks, Hero checks, BN checks
Afterwards I think I prefer to check with a hand that has less value/protection needed, such as T9s or T8s. Here against two fishes, Q kicker is maybe a bit to high to check.
Turn ($1.81) T 6 5 4
BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, BN folds, BB raises to $3.40
This is underbluffed, and when he raises, villain has 4$ behind. So can we fold?

Dec. 9, 2018 | 3 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] How do we play this?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) CO: $20.27
BN: $9.74
SB: $20.75
BB: $21.00 (Hero)
UTG: $0.00
Hey, villain is fishy given his stack size :)
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BB with Q A
CO folds, BN raises to $0.60, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.20, BN calls $1.60
Flop ($4.50) 8 9 2
Hero checks, BN checks
I wanted to check/raise all-in (there is here 1,6 psb left, but maybe bet/calling is whatever. Idk)
Turn ($4.50) 8 9 2 J
Hero checks, BN bets $3.40, Hero raises to $18.80 and is all in, BN calls $4.14 and is all in
Now that he bets 3/4 I don't think I have a lot of fold equity but I still have a combo draw, and some possible outs with the A. So bet/call, check/call (don't think it is that good) or check/raise?

Dec. 9, 2018 | 2:49 p.m.

Yeah afterwards this seems like a clear fold OTT, as already 2 of our outs are dead and we can already be at 0 equity.

Jeff_ I meant he is representing so few hands for value here 44 is 3 combos only. Given the profile I think it's way more likely that he is fucking around with any other type of hand

Dec. 9, 2018 | 12:48 p.m.

Yeah I think I can have 2 streets at least but with a smaller sizing. Thx

Dec. 9, 2018 | 12:42 p.m.

Thx guys! :)

Dec. 9, 2018 | 12:39 p.m.

Yep I tend to agree with that! :)

Dec. 9, 2018 | 1:31 a.m.

I respect a lot the work you put in into this comment, thanks man! though I think in the field I play in, I have to value bet this hand as KJ or KT almost never folds here ^^

So I guess that if you prefer check/calling, logically if we bet this is an easy bet/fold though ^^

Dec. 8, 2018 | 11:37 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] facing a river raise with top two
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) SB: $38.58
BB: $24.84
UTG: $22.86 (Hero)
CO: $24.29
BN: $22.39
Hey, readless on villain.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is UTG with K Q
Hero raises to $0.59, CO folds, BN calls $0.59, 2 folds
Flop ($1.48) 6 K 4
Hero bets $1.10, BN calls $1.10
Turn ($3.68) 6 K 4 Q
Hero bets $2.70, BN calls $2.70
River ($9.08) 6 K 4 Q 8
Hero bets $5.40, BN raises to $12.40
pretty standard 3barrel to me. Facing his raise, this is just a very underbluffed line and my range is uncapped. Don't think he ever value ebts worse here, what do you think?

Dec. 8, 2018 | 8:35 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Is this just a setup?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) SB: $25.34 (Hero)
BB: $27.91
UTG: $20.00
CO: $21.09
BN: $41.51
Hey, no reads on villain, but I play in a very fishy environment. 2 or 3 out of 5 players are usually fishes.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is SB with Q Q
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.60, BN calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, CO calls $2.20, BN folds
Flop ($6.40) A 3 A
Hero bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40
Turn ($11.20) A 3 A A
Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5.00
River ($21.20) A 3 A A 2
Hero bets $15.14 and is all in, CO calls $10.89 and is all in
given the pool I play in, I think at least 20% of the players wont fold any full here, even with a 3. So is this ok?
Final Pot CO wins $40.51 SB wins $0.00
Rake is $2.47

Dec. 8, 2018 | 8:31 p.m.

I totally agree with you for the bet otr. I defnitely missplayed that :D

Dec. 8, 2018 | 5:43 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) SB: $21.51
BB: $20.00 (Hero)
UTG: $19.18
CO: $18.76
BN: $20.17
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BB with K 4
2 folds, BN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $1.20, BN calls $1.00, SB folds
Hey, given the limp villain is a fish.
Flop ($2.60) A K A
Hero bets $1.10, BN calls $1.10
Turn ($4.80) A K A Q
Hero checks, BN checks
Thought that I didn't have much value left as we split a lot now. I think it is a mistake and that I have more value to get on pairs+gutshots and flushdraws.
River ($4.80) A K A Q 8
Hero checks, BN bets $4.80, Hero calls $4.80
Now I think checking is a clear mistake, as his range is mostly made hands, pairs etc. But when he pots, I don't think he has a lot of Ax but neither does he have a lot of missed draws as he would've bet thme OTT pretty often imo. So wtf spot? I think we can split at a non-zero frequency here

Dec. 8, 2018 | 2:43 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) BB: $25.24
UTG: $20.14
CO: $10.72
BN: $107.14
SB: $20.00 (Hero)
Hey guys, UTG is a fishy passive player, BN is a degen capable of anything, saw him 3barrel pot total thrash in a 3way pot and bluff me on several streets with a 0 equity hand.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is SB with K J
UTG calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, BN raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.40, BB folds, UTG calls $2.20, CO folds, BN calls $2.00
Definitely 3betting for value/isolation here as BB is a regular.
Flop ($7.60) Q T 3
Hero checks, UTG checks, BN checks
With the SPR, didn't want to get jammed on by BN... My plan was to check/jam on him and just check/call against a bet of UTG.
Turn ($7.60) Q T 3 4
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.30, BN raises to $5.75, Hero calls $5.75, UTG folds
Hahaha this wasn't in my plan at all! As the passive player took the lead and BN raises, I don't think I have a lot of fold equity here. (even though I don't know what the heck is BTN representing here??)
River ($20.40) Q T 3 4 4
Hero checks, BN bets $12.00, Hero folds

Dec. 8, 2018 | 2:33 p.m.

Hand History | ChaoRen123 posted in NLHE: [20NL] Good value bet versus a fish?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (5 Players) BB: $22.67 (Hero)
UTG: $33.78
CO: $29.43
BN: $58.66
SB: $27.93
Hey guys, villain is a fish. It was played yesterday, so I don't remember exactly my read on him, but he was really passive.
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, BN calls $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.10, BN calls $0.90
Flop ($2.30) 8 3 4
Hero bets $1.70, BN calls $1.70
Turn ($5.70) 8 3 4 K
Hero bets $4.00, BN calls $4.00
He doesn't have a lot of Kx compared to how wide his range is here imo. Probably should've bet a bit less big?
River ($13.70) 8 3 4 K 5
Hero bets $7.60, BN calls $7.60
This I'm not sure at all. I think I'm definitely gonna get called by some 8x, 99, some A5 or A4 at a non-zero frequency. But is this too assumptive? Should we bet more like 1/3rd as a block bet? Afterwards this seems way more sexy

Dec. 8, 2018 | 2:27 p.m.

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