I think when you do that you denied having premium hands
With AA/KK and even QQ you would have certainly 3bet 2.5x or 3x.
You can also maybe add AKs or even JJ depending on the reg profile.
I think the reg knows it, and he can set up his call in accordance (BTW we need to know how many BB he has).
There is also 7 players to talk behind you.
If the reg would have been CO and you D it would have been different because his range would be wayyyy looser.
My play would be a mix between :
- 3bet 2.5x
Ok we need to be aggressive at that level, but 20BB could still play and we do not have the best position at the table...
July 31, 2020 | 7:40 a.m.
Thanks for the answer.
I apologize, I made a mistake, flop was not A98 but A96 but following your comments it does not change a lot.
Expect that for me there are less draws on A96.
This was a hard time to analyze this hand.
In Game, globally everyone agreed on :
- pushing on the flop
- or call / go broke OTT on a non scary card.
But afterwards... I we analyze villain's range :
Limping was so weird from that profile, that I was not really able to evaluate his range : but I think it could be :
small suited Aces (A2 to A7ish)
small pp 22 to 77
suited connectors 56 to 89
some broadways suited or not QT up to KJ.
So when he raised the flop I think he can have some Aces rag / set of 66 / 2 pairs A6 / and draws 87 and clubs.
For me it was an obvious raise.
But, if you were in his shoes, would you raise a draw on a flop with an Ace? My PF range is strong and I am representing an Ace. I would have certainly check KK or QQ. And I think he knows it.
Let me know your thoughts, I am a cash game player and really need to improve my game.
July 30, 2020 | 8:22 a.m.
250€ Pokerstars bounty tournament.
something like 4500 players, 1300 remaining, 903 ITM.
Hero has a solid image with a tight game. He used to play loose few hours ago to try to catch a fish (which was a stupid strategy).
No history between Villain & Hero.
Hero has the lowest possible bounty
Villain seems to be a good reg.
Hero is 43BB, Villain 47BB.
Villain (U+1) Call (I NEVER saw him limping before, it could be a missclick or an intentional limp, I still do not know).
Hero with :Ad: :Ks: raise to 3.5BB
All fold except Villain who called.
Pot : something like 9.5BB with ante
Hero 39.5BB / Villain 43.5BB
Flop :As: :9c: :6c:
Hero bet 4BB
Villain raise 13BB
Action on Hero?
Range of Villain?
July 27, 2020 | 11:48 a.m.
I fully understand you as I experienced that many times at the beginning.
I am mainly a live player.
When you start, you just look at your agenda and can't wait for your next live session despite of your mindset and your ability to play.
If you are not a pro, after a full week of hard work, playing on friday night and being able to play your A game is just a dream.
I was not able to wait for playing, and many times I play higher stakes because my usual limit was full. I get broke twice because of it.
So my advice would be : before going to the poker room : step back :
- are you tired ? do you really want to play or you prefer to have a beer with friend? This might be an easy answer but it is not, sometimes you just don't allow yourself to be tired. Think about it!
- what is your plan today (ryanspicer talked about it) : but i will insist on the mental : such as : "If I face to a bad beat : what is my plan ?" I leave, I will stand up for a walk, I will go to the bar to have a drink, etc...). You know your dark side, take an action upfront.
- be ready to leave if you think the level of the table is too high, don't fight against better player. Poker is not a question of balls.
- if you are tired just leave.
Jared Tendler wrote some great books about mental. I highly recommend all of them!
Hope it helps!
May 9, 2019 | 2:47 p.m.
Thanks for your answers guys.
I was very tired at this stage and try to handle with the fact that he could be a bit tilty and also that if he checked this board it could be somehow with a certain equity.
So i decided to bet, even if an Ace was not a good card to bet on, because he can bet turn to represent it.
I bet 70%, I decided for this sizing higher than what i usually as a standard, to polarized my range with bluff & value.
He tanked for a long time and folded and showed Ax (with a rag i don't remember).
he said "ah ah you have 2 pairs or a set"
I was really surprised, and finally concluded that I must have shown lots of tells on the flop...
If you want to comment the 1st question ; how do we adapt on the big ante format? early & late stages please.
May 31, 2018 | 9:04 a.m.
Hand played at the 400$ buy in opening tournament of the Wynn Series
4 left on about 150 players, we are ITM off course.
Prices structure is a bit weird : 1st 15k – 2nd 9k – 3rd 6k – 4th 4k
We talked about a deal but we finally disagreed.
This tournament is a big ante format : Big Blind has to put an extra ante of 1BB.
So min raise is still 2BB but there are 2.5BB in the pot.
1st question : how do we adapt to that?
Stacks are about : 45BB-40BB-30BB-20BB
I am BB
D raised to 2BB (30BB, I have 40BB)
D has a hendon with roughly 1M$ in winnings. He is large/aggressive but seems to play now on the tight side. He seems a bit upset after losing a big pot (not against me).
I have 8d8h and called.
I checked, he checked
Question 2 : Action ?
Question 3 : if the Ace is not a club, does it change your play?
May 29, 2018 | 9:37 a.m.
You are 130BB deep PF.
What is your range to go broke PF against a 4bet? AA/KK? (imagine you cannot call but just push or fold?)
This is really too tight especially against the player you talked about.
I won't call for the reasons explained before.
This is a fold or a jam for me.
At this stack size, I will push and look at his hand as liveyoureams said.
April 9, 2018 | 8:03 a.m.
@eggs : i dont konw if this question if for me or for Mike H.
I started to play live in Paris, then Cannes on the riviera.
Then travel a lot in Morrocco, England, Ireland, Italy, Macau and US.
In US i played in Vegas and commerce casino in LA.
Best Games are in Cannes in France & in italy.
Because the level is bad compared to other places.
March 5, 2018 | 12:02 p.m.
"folded because bb limp has a lot of 8 and k forming a straight"
Or missed his FD and tried to represent a straight.
this is a huge overbet on his side
so he has Kx of heart.
Do you think he will jam with an 8?
I think he gets the K or nothing
With no info on him, fold is good but you need to take a note on him.
Feb. 14, 2018 | 5:26 p.m.
I play live now for more than 10 years, I started playing 1/2 and now 5/10.
Before I used to play 5 times a week, now it is more recreational!
I would like to comment the very good answer from RuNPuR3.
Open Raise at least 4-5x and add one bb for every limper.
I definitely agree with adding one bb for every limper.
Now for the 4-5x, i think it depends a lot on the table dynamics.
Are they crazy? are they TAG, lots of actions?
If people are crazy, you definitely want to play bigger pot, so raise big seems a good idea. Unless people are 3betting a lot, in that case you should not raise big.
If people are TAG, you should raise 3x not more, their calling range will be stronger.
Cbet a lot less multiway and much smaller. For example I find myself cbetting about 35-40% of the time and much less oop also a lot smaller like 30-40% pot heads up is effective and bigger 70-80% vs multiple opponents with top of your range.
Yes yes and yes!
Avoid Isolation 3bets. They Dont work as often as online. Very rarely will a 4b/5b shove for over 100bbs be a reckless bluff. Preflop is pretty straightforward compared to online. (Unless the guy is tilting or drunk)
I agree, but you can definitely think about your 3bet range.
People don't often 4bet and if they do it's rarely less than AA/KK/AK.
So you can merge your 3bet range with suited connectors, or small suited aces, or what you think should be profitable.
Just try and you will see how it increase your winning rate.
Use a GTO strategy only against the best players at your casino and just abuse and exploit the weak regs and fish. Avoid ego wars!
Yeah especially if you come from online games, beware of tilt!
Game select effectively around your casino and avoid bad seats or tables vs top players in your casino.
Good comment, and think that you can change seat in many casino.
Look at the game, and the reg and ask for a seat change if someone is leaving.
Avoid distractions at all costs and focus intensely on reads and tells. It is amazing how much information people give off with their body language, expressions, and tone. You can make some amazing folds and bluffs in spots where you couldn't see online by picking up on physical reads and table dynamics.
Try to be personable and social in a action table full of fish instead of stoic and silent. You will get more action that way even if your playing tight. You will stick out as a rock if you barely interact with the table. Avoid playing loose though, keep composure and don't let it effect your game.
Definitely one of the best comment :
-1- if you speak a lot and are open to the other, they will think you are a large player, it is amazing how it changes your image
-2- the bad player : do not critic them, do not try to put them down. Otherwise they will leave the table or change the way the play. There are here to have fun ! give them fun!
-3- the best games are definitely the private ones, you could be invited to this kind of juicy games only if you are nice and open to other players!
Sorry for my bad english, I am French but played a lot in US.
Feb. 13, 2018 | 10:56 a.m.
Ok, I agree with you.
And I folded.
Now, Why he did not check the river?
Either I am on a miss draw and I would be tempted to bet, either I have a strong hand and I would bet.
I think in his shoes, I would have check to check/call or to check/raise..
April 13, 2016 | 1:53 p.m.
Me : 2000
Villain : 2500
Villain is a decent reg.
Very tight player preflop, seems to be straight forward after. But as he is living from poker, at this stakes for at least 5 years, he might have some bluff too..
My image : loose agro.
Villain opened 35 (Hijack) after all table folded.
I called OTB with JdTd
Flop : 8sTs4h (85)
He bet 55
Turn : 8sTs4hJh (195)
He bet 120
I raised to 430
He tank called
River : 8sTs4hJhKd (1055)
He bet 800
My first guess was he has a very strong hand. He shows strength by calling the turn.
But, as he called the turn without raising on a drawy board, I feel some weakness.
When he bet OTR, I was completely lost.
He should have checked and leave me bet.
If I was on a miss draw, I would have bet and nearly all my value hand raising the turn would have bet the river.
So I was very confused by this bet…
April 11, 2016 | 11:43 a.m.
Assuming your assumptions, we have to fold.
We can maybe just challenge it : are you sure no FD+SD are in his range?
No we cannot fold KQ or JJ
Agains his range we have 27% with KJ, 43% with KQ and 50% with JJ.
I would call and see a turn.
Dec. 23, 2015 | 1:27 p.m.
just a question : where are you playing?
His range appears to be only pp hands and AT/KT
I think a livetard would bet the flop with any pairs, just being afraid of a check behind, thinking he is playing against broadway hands. Generally speaking livetard always thought we have AK in hands when we 3 bet. On the flop I don't think he would bet TT or x2 Hands.
As he 3 barreled with lower bet sizing I think his range is polarized : pocket pairs or full (with 33 or 44). His bet looks like a value bet OR a blocking one (even if the sizing is a bit high for a blocking one, he maybe just want to avoid a shove).
I like your line, would have played the same flop & turn.
Now OTR I don't think he would fold 66-77-88-99-JJ if he bet with those hands on 3 streets.
So right play on the river would be : jam>>fold>>call, even if it is hard to fold if you called the turn.
As played I would shove river.
Nov. 23, 2015 | 3:12 p.m.
I am a cash game player and definitely not tournament.
I just wanna ask a question, (sorry to bother you).
When you said "he probably won't have any worse offsuit Ax combos and Ax suited are probably checking back turn".
It means as OR we never cbet this flop with KK/QQ/JJ/TT/99 and air? (like KQs)
If we bet such hands & vilain knows that, he has to bet right?
Nov. 23, 2015 | 2:52 p.m.
Maybe we need more information rather than just TAG. Some guys are LAG preflop and TAG postflop, some are TAG preflop and does not like to fold postflop (so a kind of "LAG" even if the word is not correct), some are TAG pre and post.
I will assume that you both are TAG/TAG..
Some assumptions :
* you want to avoid a HU with him (according to you) => Your raise is strong
* he gives credits to your bet => His 3bet is strong
So for me when he just call your 4bet his range is pretty strong, i would say QQ+, AK.
It looks like more than a trap than a desperate call (otherwise he is not TAG).
=> Give up.
I do not understand your 4bet, what do you want him to fold? you are TAG, he is TAG...
Nov. 16, 2015 | 2:13 p.m.
I think you have to raise the flop 100%. The guy is tilted, most of the guy usually put honor behind everything (or balls, which is the same). So when you raise him, I think if he his really tilted he would either shove with a FD or call.
River I am hesitating between a gay bet and a shove.
Same reasons : gay bet might suggest him to bluff and reraise and shove for same reasons has written before.
Oct. 19, 2015 | 11:18 a.m.
As I said, I fold.
But the more I talk to friends with this hand, the more they say I have to call.
Honestly I regret to fold.
@Degree : I really don't think he as a K, if he had a K it is KK. Why would he have called with AK/KQ/KJ 2 barrels?
Oct. 16, 2015 | 7:50 a.m.
Thanks for your answers...
I think this hand is a very good spot to bluff.
The bottom of his range is 2 pairs with 66-JJ, the top if off course full and one quad. KK is rare but possible.
What is my perceived range? Air / AK /KQo/KJo / 99 to AA (99 could be discussed, something between 88 and JJ)
So for me it is very hard to call an overbet shove OTR and I think he knew that.
He is representing exactly what he is trying to have: full or turning a decent double pair into a bluff.
But I have strong doubts….
Sept. 18, 2015 | 6:36 a.m.
Commerce Casino 5/10
V. is a LAG reg aggressive. Few showdowns up to now but he seems to be a decent player
We are playing for 5 hours with a big history of 3bet/4bet.
Effective Stack : 2000
V. Open 30 in MP, Random Call.
I 3bet 110 OTB with Kd3d
He called. HU.
C, cbet 150 call
C, bet 295, he tank called
He insta shoved 1455
Sept. 15, 2015 | 2:23 p.m.
the question for me is what is your range according to V?
You are a nitty grinder so turn you have 55/66/AQ/A5/A6 and sometimes some combo draw.
So when he push river I think he crush you and have a set or a straight.
Sept. 14, 2015 | 11:57 a.m.
I am a brand new member and this is my first post, so sorry if I have to introduce myself before but I did not find the place to.
I am French so sorry for the bad English.
The LAG is a LAG so he could have a K, a Flush (higher would be Q8 and lower, so really crapy hand to open UTG+1), and off course better hand like AK/99/K9, but we are ahead against these combos.
The nitty has never a higher flush than us and I really don't think he has a full. Even you are on the nitty side, would you not raise a full there?
Anyway, AK is not possible, so 99 would be the only hand.
I cannot put nitty on a precise range, if he has a K why calling 2barrels in a 3 ways pot? KQc?
But for me his call does not show force and i don't think he could hope for a raise on Hero Side if he has a full.
Even if I think we are strongly ahead, if opponents are decent they won't call with lower hands.
I fear more the LAG than the nit here but I just call.