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Post | Antron posted in PLO: PLO study grp or partner


I'm looking for a study grp or partner for PLO cash games.

I transitioned to PLO in december 2023. I used to play NL cash games and was a winning reg at 25-50nl 6max online and 1/2 live.

I'm studying a PLO course and have some decent heuristics already. I would want to study via Discord; reviewing hands, talking strategy both theory and exploits, building heuristics, database analysis etc!

Best regards,

Dec. 4, 2023 | 11:41 a.m.

Post | Antron posted in NLHE: Live preflop adjustments

Hey! I’ve playing quite a lot of 1/1 $ live recently which is the lowest stake available at my local casino, and man people are so incredibly loose preflop and often passive as well.

1) When I open raise to 4x people kinda see it as a cheeky little joke and most of the time I get atleast 4-5 callers depending on how many players are left to act of course. Against limps I go 6x + 1 for each additional limper and often get very many callers as well (absolutely ridiculous calling freqs compared to theory).

So I feel like I should go bigger preflop? But the thing is that I only buy in for 100bb so going bigger feels dumb, I feel like I’m already going bigger than theory, but I believe it’s the correct exploit? Thoughts?

2) How should my range change when going bigger? I guess tightening up and going for playability ie folding hands such as KTo and choosing PPs and suited hands instead?

March 7, 2022 | 11:34 a.m.

Jan. 2, 2022 | 11:30 p.m.

thanks! yeah my sizing was weird i always 4b to 2,3x ip and 2,5x oop idk what happened here lol.

Dec. 17, 2021 | 7:12 p.m.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: $5.51 (110.2 bb)
SB: $5.00 (100 bb)
BB: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $6.64 (132.8 bb)
MP: $6.05 (121 bb)
CO: $4.43 (88.6 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Ac As
Hero raises to $0.12, MP raises to $0.38, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.47

Flop: ($1.77, 2 players) Kd Qs 9h
Hero bets $0.45, MP calls $0.45

Turn: ($2.67, 2 players) 4c
Hero bets $1.69

Would you mix in checks here with AA at all? It felt maybe a bit loose to go for 3 streets of value with AA, is that nitty thinking? I really havn't done much work in 4bps.

Dec. 16, 2021 | 7:49 p.m.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hero (BTN): $5.09 (101.8 bb)
SB: $5.72 (114.4 bb)
BB: $5.96 (119.2 bb)
UTG: $4.95 (99 bb)
MP: $11.20 (224 bb)
CO: $6.48 (129.6 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 8s 8d
UTG raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.67, 2 players) Kc Jd 4c
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.21, UTG calls $0.21

Turn: ($1.09, 2 players) Ac
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.69.

Preflop: I play 3b/fold and this is kind of at the bottom of my 3 betting range as far as PPs go.

Flop: Standard range bet on high-high-low board for me. I try to keep it simple and range bet a lot of these boards in 3bps, especially IP.

Turn: I think this is a good turn for my range, rainbow A would be even better I guess. Usually I would usually always X a hand like TT-77 here but I realised in game that I don't really have a lot of worse hands here? So maybe these PPs make good bluffs on the turn? Idk maybe its too fancy, what do you think?

Dec. 16, 2021 | 7:42 p.m.

Hey guys! I'm looking for a study partner or group for 6max cash. Earlier this year I transitioned back to cash from tournies. Since then I've played about 100k hands, mostly on 25NL where my winrate is 6 bb/100. Looking to improve and move up. I have piosolver. Trying to play solid simplified strategies, for example only use one sizing per flop and turn, trying to find range bet and check spots etc. I have discord.

Best regards

Dec. 13, 2021 | 10:54 p.m.

Post | Antron posted in NLHE: 25NL: Bluff in 3bp OOP

BTN: 177.1 bb
Hero (SB): 100.8 bb
BB: 200 bb
UTG: 227.6 bb
CO: 245.2 bb

Hero posts SB 0.5, BB posts 1.

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5) Hero has 9d Kd
2 folds, BTN raises to 2.5bb, Hero raises to 11bb, fold, BTN calls 8.5bb.

Flop: (23bb, 2 players) 7d Jc 5h
Hero bets 7.5bb, BTN calls 7.5bb.

Turn: (38bb, 2 players) 5d
Hero bets 19bb, BTN calls 19bb.

River: (77bb, 2 players) Ts
Hero checks, BTN bets 138bb and is all-in, Hero folds

Villain is 41/26/8 over 400 hands.

I play 3b or fold preflop and this hand mostly 3bs. If anything villain is probably too loose preflop with his high vpip so perhaps I can 3b a little bit wider for value than normal.

On high-mid-low flops I usually just range bet 1/3 in 3bps, especially when rbw. If villain is calling too much preflop my range bet is going to work even better.

Turn 5 isn't great for me because I only have A5s in my 3 betting range while villain could have a couple more fives, especially if he's too loose preflop. But I do pick up a flush draw and that's why I barrel. I think my half pot sizing is big enough because of the SPR but maybe I can go bigger?

River I usually give up missed FDs. Not sure what my bluffs should be here?

Dec. 12, 2021 | 12:17 a.m.

SB: 131.4 bb
BB: 303.8 bb
UTG: 138.5 bb
MP: 51.7 bb
CO: 179.8 bb
Hero (BTN): 97.3 bb

SB posts 0.5, BB posts 1.

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5) Hero has Ts Qs
fold, MP calls 1bb, fold, Hero raises to 4bb, 2 folds, MP calls 3bb.

Flop: (9.5bb, 2 players) 5s Td 8h
MP bets 7.25bb, Hero calls 7.25bb

Turn: ($24bb, 2 players) Jc
MP bets 13bb Hero calls 13bb

River: (59bb, 2 players) Ac
MP bets 23bb and is all-in, Hero ???

10 hands on villain so nothing to go on but he's obviously a fish considering his stack size, limp pre and donking post. What's your thought process here? I don't really know how to think these spots through. I find it hard with bluffcatchers versus fish generally, it's so hard to put them on a range especially in weird spots such as this one.

His line doesn't make alot of sense to me because there's not that many hands that want to valuebet all the streets because of how the board runs out. But at the same time im hoping for some random bluff. In spots like this one where he is repping a pretty shallow value range he could overbluff easily? Too assumptive? I called and he just had JTo.

Dec. 12, 2021 | 12:02 a.m.

Thanks! I think I understand. I will continue to use 4Bet Range only then :)

In general, what number is a low 4Bet Range where I can make some tight folds? And what is an aggressive 4Bet Range number where villain bluffs as he should or perhaps even overbluff a little?

Nov. 28, 2021 | 9:03 p.m.


I use the stat called "4Bet Range" which is defined as "Range of hands player 4bets with - based on 4Bet percentage x Raise unraised pot Pct"

Can someone explain this definition please?

Example: If someone has a 4Bet Range of 3, does that mean 3% of all hands for example 99+ AK? Or does it mean 3% of his RFI range? Or something else? I hope you understand my question.

Nov. 28, 2021 | 7:53 p.m.

Ty guys I'm coming back from a small break from poker so I wanted to double check. I have a solid win rate of 7 bb/100 at 25 NL after my first 50k hands on the stake. But now after the break I'm getting crushed over the first 5k hands so I'm getting a little paranoid XD

Nov. 20, 2021 | 5:49 p.m.

Should I be able to get away here? I have no sample on villain. I think this jam on turn is probably underbluffed by population at 25 nl.

Preflop I size up a little because of my stack depth. Same on flop. I guess going smaller on flop is fine too. If the board was rainbow I'd lean towards 33% for sure.

Turn I'm just not folding here unless I have proof that villain is a NIT. Does that make me a station?

Hero (SB): 126.7 bb
BB: 261.9 bb
UTG: 97.1 bb
CO: 130.1 bb
BTN: 269.1 bb

Hero posts SB 0,5bb BB posts 1bb

Pre Flop: (1,5bb) Hero has Kh Kd
fold, CO raises to 3,5bb fold, Hero raises to 16bb fold, CO calls 12,5bb

Flop: (33bb, 2 players) Jc 8d 3d
Hero bets 16,5bb, CO calls 16,5bb

Turn: (66bb, 2 players) 4h
Hero bets 33bb, CO raises to 99bb and is all in

Nov. 20, 2021 | 3:16 p.m.

Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. Interesting

Nov. 15, 2021 | 6:38 p.m.

Post | Antron posted in NLHE: 25NL: SB vs BU 3bp with KQs

BB: 158.4 bb
Hero (SB): 98.3 bb
CO: 112.2 bb
BTN: 109.3 bb

Hero posts SB 0,5 bb BB posts 1 bb

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 bb) Hero has Ks Qs
fold, BTN raises to 2.5 bb Hero raises to 11 bb fold, BTN calls 8.5 bb

Flop: (23 bb, 2 players) Kc 4h Tc
Hero bets 7,6 bb BTN calls 7,6 bb

Turn: (38 bb, 2 players) 9s
Hero checks, BTN bets 28 bb, Hero calls 28 bb

River: (96 bb, 2 players) Jd
Hero checks, BTN checks

Villain is playing 24/20/8 over 900 hands.

How would you play this hand? Do you agree with my thoughts below?

Flop is pretty good for me so I simplify to a range bet. The fact that it's 2 tone and the connectivity of the K and T might make it less good to range bet but I still think it's fine, atleast for 25NL?

Turn 9 doesn't seem that good for me? QJs, K9s, T9s, 99 gets there. I think I want to X a big part of my range on this turn, especially when I range bet the flop? KQ seem like a really good bluffcatcher, unblocking FDs and blocking straights. But at the same time I could use protection against FDs on the turn and can still get called by many worse hands. So I'm a bit confused here.

River I don't have a donking range.

Nov. 14, 2021 | 9:34 p.m.

Comment | Antron commented on 25NL: JJ in big MW 3BP

Thanks for the input, it was such a meh spot for me.

Yeah I might need to X more of my range here on the flop.

Nov. 14, 2021 | 8:46 p.m.

Post | Antron posted in NLHE: 25NL: JJ in big MW 3BP

UTG: 188.3 bb
CO: 16.1 bb
BTN: 173.1 bb
Hero (SB): 161.4 bb
BB: 91.4 b

Hero posts SB 0,5 bb, BB posts 1 bb

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,5 bb) Hero has Jh Jd
UTG raises to 3 bb, CO calls 3 bb, BTN calls 3 bb, Hero raises to 17 bb, 2 folds, CO calls 13 bb and is all-in, BTN calls 14 bb

Flop: (54 bb players) 6c 2s 7d
Hero bets 27 bb, BTN calls 27 bb

Turn: (133 bb, 3 players) Td
Hero bets 117 bb and is all-in.

How do you play JJ here?

BU is playing 23/21/12 over 100 hands sample so he's probably a reg but who knows, small sample.

Preflop easy squeeze 3b for value, JJ can use some protection against overcards and it's good to thin the field.

Flop I don't use 33% sizing on these boards. I usually go 50-66%. I don't think it's connected enough, especially when rainbow, that I want to do a lot of checking, but I might be wrong, BU has nut advantage with sets.

Turn I jam for value and protection but I don't expect to get called by a lot of worse hands tbh. Am I just overplaying my hand here?

Nov. 14, 2021 | 10:14 a.m.

Villain seem to be some sort of passive fish, he played 60/7/2 over 250 hands and I had a note of him that he didnt 3b KK...

Flop 3b against his tiny XR seem standard. I can get value from Ax and perhaps even worse made hands that fish might overplay. When he 4 bets flop I got a bit anxious and decided to just call since we're 200bbs deed and becaues i dont rly see this player profile bluffing alot with this line.

Turn villain pots it. I'm not happy about the spot but I don't think I should be folding?

River he jams close to pot size... No idea, folding seem so weak so I called and he had a set of 2s.

SB: 76.6 bb
BB: 282.2 bb
Hero (CO): 199.4 bb
BTN: 186.1 bb

SB posts 0.50, BB posts 1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.50) Hero has 9s Ad
Hero raises to 2.50, 2 folds, BB calls 1.50

Flop: (5.50, 2 players) 9c 2s Ah
BB checks, Hero bets 1.83, BB raises to 3.66, Hero raises to 12.20, BB raises to 20.74, Hero calls 8.54

Turn: (46.98, 2 players) Ts
BB bets 46.98, Hero calls 46.98

River: (140.94, 2 players) 5s
BB bets 140.94, Hero calls 129.14 and is all-in

May 23, 2021 | 5:57 p.m.

yes im never folding of course, i was just thinking that maybe pop is just too underbluffed here and i shouldnt jam but instead call and look to fold turns where i dont improve...

May 23, 2021 | 1:13 p.m.

I would 3b preflop some of the time, but usually I'm more polarized BB vs BU. I would take the same line with 66 and 55 for value, probably not 2 pair for 200bbs. Not sure if this is just spew from my side, kinda felt like it because of my stack depth. Do I have any fold equity? For 100 bbs I think this line should be fine?

BTN: 210.4 bb
SB: 127.8 bb
Hero (BB): 237.2 bb

SB posts 0.50, Hero posts BB 1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.50) Hero has 7h 8h
BTN raises to 2.00, fold, Hero calls 1.00

Flop: (4.50, 2 players) 5h 6s Kh
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.50, Hero raises to 11.16, BTN raises to 75.00, Hero raises to 235.23 and is all-in.

May 23, 2021 | 6:39 a.m.

BTN: 196.5 bb
SB: 620.1 bb
BB: 200 bb
Hero (UTG): 101.9 bb
CO: 177.6 bb

SB posts 0.50, BB posts 1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.50) Hero has Td Tc
Hero raises to 2.50, 2 folds, SB calls 2.00, fold

Flop: (6.00, 2 players) Ts 7c 9c
SB bets 4.50, Hero raises to 16.50, SB calls 12.00

Turn: (39.00, 2 players) 8h
SB bets 39.00, Hero calls 39.00

River: (117.00, 2 players) Kd
SB bets 87.75, Hero folds

Against unknown probably a fish, how would you play this hand?

Easy value raise for me on the flop. Getting called by alot of worse hands.

On the turn I think raising would be a polarization error and I don't think I can fold with my boat outs if he has a straight and I'm still beating bluffs and maybe some worse "value". He pots it which is kinda problematic but I still think I should call.

River I'm just folding here?

May 20, 2021 | 7:53 a.m.

alright thanks guys :)

May 15, 2021 | 7:20 a.m.

Post | Antron posted in NLHE: 25 NL: AA HJ vs CO's Cold Call

Hero (HJ): 186.6 bb
CO: 126.1 bb
BTN: 213.8 bb
SB: 103.9 bb
BB: 200 bb

SB posts 0.5 BB posts 1.

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5) Hero has Ah As
Hero raises to 2.5, CO calls 2.5, 3 folds

Flop: (6.5 bb, 2 players) 2c Ks 6s
Hero bets 4.33, CO calls 4.33

Turn: (15.16 bb, 2 players) 6c
Hero bets 10.11, CO calls 10.11

River: (35.36 bb, 2 players) 4s
Hero bets 24 CO raises to 79 Hero folds

Villain is unknown in my small pool and is playing 77/33/0 with 2 Agg over a 50 hands sample, so he is very likely a fish of the loose passive sort.

I think I missplayed this hand and should've checked somewhere instead of betting.

Not sure of how to split my range on this flop in this formation, against a reg I would usually do a lot checking as OOP PFA. But against fish I prefer to try and max exploit and just go for value.

On the turn I think this fish will have more 6x than he should theoretically so I might have to be careful? I went for value anyway thinking I can get called by Kx, FDs and perhaps other random pairs that I beat.

On the river flush gets there. Trips also beat me. So perhaps this is just a check here. I think from fish I might still get value from Kx. But I think I just overvalue my aces here, I don't think I have 3 streets even against a fish.

May 14, 2021 | 6:51 p.m.

I understand, I didn't know that. thanks!

May 7, 2021 | 6:33 p.m.

Thanks! Interesting input, after reading it I definitely think I might be a little bit naive when it comes to his flop X range

May 7, 2021 | 3:49 p.m.

Isn't it a bit weird to compare b27 with range to b27 or check? Wouldn't it be way more practical and useful to compare b27 with range to b66 or check? The reason I'm asking is because I never play bet small or check strategy BU vs BB, only range bet small or polar w bigger size

May 7, 2021 | 8:45 a.m.

SB: (408.7 bb)
Hero (BB): (141.5 bb)
CO: (196.3 bb)
BTN: (236.3 bb)

SB posts 0.5, Hero posts BB 1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5) Hero has Jc Ah
2 folds, SB raises to 3.00, Hero calls 2.00

Flop: (6.00, 2 players) Ks Ac 5d
SB checks, Hero bets 2.00, SB calls 2.00

Turn: (10.00, 2 players) Tc
SB checks, Hero bets 6.66, SB raises to 18.33, Hero calls $12.00.

River: (46.85, 2 players) 6c
SB bets 23.33, Hero folds

50 hands on villain, nothing strange. But my pool is pretty small and I havn't seen him before so I would guess with something like 75% certainty he's some sort of recreational.

I would expect he can cbet alot on this flop due to his range advantage. I don't hate betting 33% with range in his shoes. X is a bit unusual I suppose, I think I have a pretty clear value bet, not sure about my sizing, I decided to go small thinking that his XC range is probably going to be really capped. Also I don't need any protection at all. For this sizing I can bluff cheaply a lot against what I would assume is a population who might XF this spot after missing flop CB.

Turn gives him some 2ps and the occasional straight if he goes XC with those types of hands, but I'm not worried at all here, I continue to valuebet against weak Ax, Kx etc. I face the 3x raise and I get pretty confused. Suddenly his seemingly capped range goes bananas. I think that if he goes for a play such as this, he's also "capable" of having straights, 2 pairs and maybe even sets here. He could just have a flush/straight draw however, or a random spazz, and I have tpgk+nut gssd so I'm not going anywhere for this sizing, maybe it's a bit naive to call turn vs unknown probable rec?

Flush gets in on the river... I think I have a decent hand and solid blockers for a call. My price is pretty good too, only need to be right 25% of the time. Am I though? What is he bluffing with here? How would you play this?

May 7, 2021 | 8:43 a.m.

The 4b stat in my program must surely be a percentage based on their opening range. thanks alot guys i will investigate this further and figure out which one i want to use!

May 7, 2021 | 7:26 a.m.

I guess like 4 might be a standard nit 4better which is kinda common?
In HM3 my 4b stat is called "4Bet" and refers to "percent of the time players 4Bets - reraises preflop when facing 3Bet"

May 6, 2021 | 9:15 p.m.

Are you sure 3-4% 4b is standard? I 4b 7% over 50k hands and I use solved ranges, I'm not following them perfectly of course, but I try to somewhat follow them.. I also see most regs 4b more than 5 and i suspect most of them to be kinda tight-ish, at 25 nl, foreign site tho XD

May 6, 2021 | 8:02 p.m.

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